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  • Originally posted by thatweirdguy View Post
    Ian is just 6'5. Baltazar is reportedly in the 6'7 , 6'8 range and very mobile. But let's see if his game will translate
    Ian actually doesn't have a good performance in his national stints.

    I hope Baltazar will be good in Fiba.

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    • Originally posted by mathematicianrcg View Post
      Ian actually doesn't have a good performance in his national stints.

      I hope Baltazar will be good in Fiba.
      What really turns me off from Ian is his attitude. He's not really committed to our and plays like a bully inside the court

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      • Originally posted by JAMSKIE View Post
        What I like about this idea is that the top pro leagues like that of Japan, Korea, China, New Zealand, Australia & even the ASEAN Basketball League are FIBA & national team-friendly pro leagues. Which means that these pro leagues are in their off-season during the months of June, July, August & September which is the period FIBA tournaments & other international/invitational tournaments like the Jones Cup & Merlion Cup are held.

        Then these leagues also take a brief break (usually around 2 weeks) to give way to their National teams' participation in the window qualifiers of World Cup & Asia Cup. The B-league, KBL, CBA & NBL Australia as well as those premier pro leagues in the Middle East are doing this.

        These things are something that PBA cannot offer our National team players or PBA would be hard pressed to do so.

        With this, I'm thinking of this kind of set-up in which these Gilas players (that hopefully will play in foreign pro leagues) like Thirdy, Kobe Paras, Kai Sotto, AJ Edu, GDL brothers, Dave Ildefonso, Ange Kouame, RJ Abarrientos, SJ Belangel, get to train for at least 2 months during the June to September period each year - a period when all the top pro leagues except the PBA are in the off-season. In this way, our Gilas team/pool could establish enough cohesion & are well assimilated to coach Tab's system.

        Ito yung ginagawa ng teams like Japan, China, Korea, Iran, Jordan, etc., that is why even if these teams are given just a 10-day preparation period prior to a certain window, cohesive pa rin yung team & players are well assimilated with the system.


        Most of those countries have 4 seasons,so summer to fall is an off season,while a country like the Philippines its freaking summer all year long with an occasional disruption by typhoons, so pretty much can play basketball 10 months out of a year.

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        • Originally posted by robert0326
          No no.. they can wait for Remy Martin in free agency anytime.. CTC does always picks potential big man than best guards... Every PBA coach will go for skilled big man like Baltazar than skilled guards.. Even Tab Baldwin will go for Baltazar rather than Martin or Holt if these three will go on the same draft...
          So you're saying that Martin won't be picked in the PBA draft?

          Ginebra's guard rotation is aging. Pringle and LA are on their mid 30's. also for marketing purposes they might choose someone like him. who the hell in this world would pass on someone like him?

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          • Originally posted by JAMSKIE View Post
            What I like about this idea is that the top pro leagues like that of Japan, Korea, China, New Zealand, Australia & even the ASEAN Basketball League are FIBA & national team-friendly pro leagues. Which means that these pro leagues are in their off-season during the months of June, July, August & September which is the period FIBA tournaments & other international/invitational tournaments like the Jones Cup & Merlion Cup are held.

            Then these leagues also take a brief break (usually around 2 weeks) to give way to their National teams' participation in the window qualifiers of World Cup & Asia Cup. The B-league, KBL, CBA & NBL Australia as well as those premier pro leagues in the Middle East are doing this.

            These things are something that PBA cannot offer our National team players or PBA would be hard pressed to do so.

            With this, I'm thinking of this kind of set-up in which these Gilas players (that hopefully will play in foreign pro leagues) like Thirdy, Kobe Paras, Kai Sotto, AJ Edu, GDL brothers, Dave Ildefonso, Ange Kouame, RJ Abarrientos, SJ Belangel, get to train for at least 2 months during the June to September period each year - a period when all the top pro leagues except the PBA are in the off-season. In this way, our Gilas team/pool could establish enough cohesion & are well assimilated to coach Tab's system.

            Ito yung ginagawa ng teams like Japan, China, Korea, Iran, Jordan, etc., that is why even if these teams are given just a 10-day preparation period prior to a certain window, cohesive pa rin yung team & players are well assimilated with the system.
            If were PBA, in a normal setting, since they really don't want to shorten their 10-month season but at the same time has the absolute desire to participate in Gilas/FIBA games, gagayahin ko na lang yung schedule format na ipinatutupad ng FIFA with various European leagues during international breaks. Only difference is, instead of an August to late-May or June fiscal season if there is WC/Euro Cup, they'll adopt the September-to-July fiscal season. That way, they can freely implement 2-week breaks every FIBA World/Asia Cup qualifying tournament window (usually every November, February, June and August), where every PBA team can lend at least 1 of their stars to SBP/Gilas.

            At this point, let's all just forget about PBA having a solid 3 to 4 months offseason because it's just never gonna happen.

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            • Originally posted by robert0326
              Mapipick syempre.. But not 1st overall pick... We all know that skilled big man is always a top priority of all PBA teams.. Kaya if ever Baltazar, MArtin or Holt will join together then Baltazar will be the 1st pick... Rare sa PBA ang skilled big man..
              they can still get both of them. balty in special drat. and pick martin in normal drafr..
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              • Originally posted by robert0326
                Is Remy Martin will join PBA? I think it's too early for him for now to join.. He can get Euroleague contract if ever he can't make it to the NBA...
                i just cite an example on martin and observe or asked about who will mvp pick..
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                • Gilas 23 five

                  Kouame
                  kai
                  Dwight
                  Thridy
                  Kiefer

                  6th Man JC

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                  • Originally posted by DAdmiral View Post
                    Gilas 23 five

                    Kouame
                    kai
                    Dwight
                    Thridy
                    Kiefer

                    6th Man JC
                    Hmmm. JC as Sixth Man? For Scoring off the bench?

                    Your Starting 5 all came from ateneo. But actually, it makes sense.

                    I will just switch JC and Thirdy to have more scoring/shooting

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                    • Originally posted by mathematicianrcg View Post
                      Hmmm. JC as Sixth Man? For Scoring off the bench?

                      Your Starting 5 all came from ateneo. But actually, it makes sense.

                      I will just switch JC and Thirdy to have more scoring/shooting
                      Hugot reinforcement, he can start

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                      • Originally posted by DAdmiral View Post
                        Gilas 23 five

                        Kouame
                        kai
                        Dwight
                        Thridy
                        Kiefer
                        By August this year , no PBA team even using ineligibles can beat this team using FIBA rules. So technically the cadets by August Asia cup is already the best and strongest Gilas team we can field, easily already better (not more talented) than Yengs WC team

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                        • Talent vs. Cohesion

                          Originally posted by DAdmiral View Post
                          Gilas 23 five

                          Kouame
                          kai
                          Dwight
                          Thridy
                          Kiefer
                          Originally posted by DAdmiral View Post
                          By August this year , no PBA team even using ineligibles can beat this team using FIBA rules. So technically the cadets by August Asia cup is already the best and strongest Gilas team we can field, easily already better (not more talented) than Yengs WC team
                          That's becoz a PBA-select team (no matter how rich in talent) would be lacking the necessary cohesion & familiarity of the FIBA game - aspects that Tab Baldwin's Gilas team has some luxury.
                          "A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV

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                          • Originally posted by robert0326
                            Is Remy Martin will join PBA? I think it's too early for him for now to join.. He can get Euroleague contract if ever he can't make it to the NBA...
                            NBA players that dont pan out prefer going to China due to $ and inflated stats that help them go to the NBA

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                            • Originally posted by anon9000 View Post
                              NBA players that dont pan out prefer going to China due to $ and inflated stats that help them go to the NBA
                              How about Kihei Clark? What are his options post NCAA? NBA, G-League, Euro, NBL, China, Asia , PBA? (in that order of preference lol)

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                              • Originally posted by Dotch View Post
                                How about Kihei Clark? What are his options post NCAA? NBA, G-League, Euro, NBL, China, Asia , PBA? (in that order of preference lol)
                                Asian leagues he cant play due to lineage, wala na kasi ABL..Thailand Legue I think gives oba ike rate, slightly below yun sa Indonesia
                                To becomes Asia's Best, we need to compete against the World's Best..
                                1 Big 4 small > 5 out offense.

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