Philippines Senior National Team Thread Vol. V

[interxavierxxx]

The tallest guy in the team usually plays center but it doesn't mean he can't learn guard skills at the same time. Arguably the best perimeter player in the PBA in his prime, Marcio Lassiter, actually played PF/C early on. But obviously it didn't stop him from learning guard skills.

Didn’t Dwight also play C at some point in his HS career?

Kumbaga nasa tao na yon.

[interxavierxxx]

Let's be real. If Coach Chot is the Coach in 2023 WC.
JC is more fit in his style. (Whether you call it asa sa import style)

Coach Chot and Ange are not compatible with each other.

Now, the Concern will be who will help Kai and Aj in the Bigs Position. Probably Coach Chot still considering Japeth and Junmar in 2023 WC even with limited mins.

Junemar is the obvious answer. He will only be 33/34, so still serviceable as a reliever for the last two minutes of the first 3 Qs.

He can go with the young guys like Geo Chiu, Go, Lepalam, Rangel, etc.

or he can stick to his usual PBA reliever bigs like Erram, Almazan, Japeth, and Slaughter.

Speak of the devil, has Greg ever played under Chot? Was he even in the pool for past CCR teams?

[zairex]

@zairex bringing up Feb 2020. (Tab sent to hospital)
What are you trying to say, my son and I were there when that happened.. every season and situation is different
I will tell you in the 1st few weeks of training in 2020 Tab who returned from Japan took a break and was not coaching in the practices it was led by his assistant coaches. It's the same this year he returned from the US and even if Ateneo preseason practices have started Tab is not in most practices but slowly trying to get into things . Common sense

The task of coaching and preparing Gilas and actually playing games in February is very demanding and is very different from resuming to decide to coach Ateneo for UAaP that starts in late March. Very different. Really Tab can skip coaching all the Atene
Games for April and just coach from May 1 , if he want to
Your logic in most of arguments are totally off and senseless

You said that coaches dont attend preseason. Just showing that your opinion wasn't correct. Thats all.

[DAdmiral]

You said that coaches dont attend preseason. Just showing that your opinion wasn't correct. Thats all.

Don't need to attend (not necessary) early preseason is my observation (fact). Not do not attend as you're once again putting words in my mouth. (Which was never my opinion).
In fact Tab visited one of Gilas practices in Feb.

Let's be honest here, you were trying to paint malice on Tab's genuine request for a break, by questioning why he kept Ateneo role while leaving Gilas. That is the point of your line of argument. Which is totally foolish

[lurklurk]

Let's be real. If Coach Chot is the Coach in 2023 WC.
JC is more fit in his style. (Whether you call it asa sa import style)

Coach Chot and Ange are not compatible with each other.

Now, the Concern will be who will help Kai and Aj in the Bigs Position. Probably Coach Chot still considering Japeth and Junmar in 2023 WC even with limited mins.

I keep reading this. Why do people think Ange does not fit Chot's system? Reminder: TNT's import is Aaron Fuller, a rebounding, shot-blocking big with limited offensive skillset. Ange is basically a 6'11 Aaron Fuller who is maybe a better floor-spacer. Ange's problem is his unfamiliarity with CCR, not the fit.

[reamily]

I keep reading this. Why do people think Ange does not fit Chot's system? Reminder: TNT's import is Aaron Fuller, a rebounding, shot-blocking big with limited offensive skillset. Ange is basically a 6'11 Aaron Fuller who is maybe a better floor-spacer. Ange's problem is his unfamiliarity with CCR, not the fit.

Problem with ange is his motor isnt like fuller..

[lurklurk]

Problem with ange is his motor isnt like fuller..

I think Ange has good motor naman. Will probably pale in comparison to Fuller who is a seasoned vet and has played all over the world.

[IPC]

To be clear it's not Chot's decision to accept the role or even his selection of his own TNt players that is the problem.

It's the SBP leadership decision to throw away the long term program that was successful last year for a new direction.
It's not even a question of who should be caoxh for Feb. (Like really this is insignificant to the bigger picture of sticking to a long term plan)
But it's the change of direction, and for what reason politics.
Note Tab was not just dropped as coach for Feb or just fired as program director, but the whole long term program has changed.
That is the biggest mistake here.

Basically the SBP like PATAFA would rather control how they do things and do it their way, than do it the right way which is have a professional basketball program manager decide on all basketball program affairs .
Honestly the SBP officials while corporate executives are amateur and inexperience basketball program people. But want to control decision making in an area they have no knowledge how to best manage, they are driven by commercial $$$. Not basketball level advancement..

It's depressing, honestly, kung ganito lang. Driven more by personal interest than the improvement and progression of basketball here. I mean, they'd prefer that our best players go to the PBA rather than abroad. It's crap.

I honestly hope Chot and the SBP prove us wrong, that they are willing to innovate, pero ayun. Presumption is that we're back to square -1 (negative 1), unless of course they progress.

[IPC]

There were amateur practicing in Dec. (Link below)

The gilas special draft players

B league who made Feb Window (3?)

Easily there are 12 players there

In the 1st place why even the need to assign Chot , who does not know these players. Just assign in interim any of the current assistants (Sandy Jong . Nenad)

The SBP decision was an over reaction

16 players were already practicing November 2021
https://tiebreakertimes.com.ph/tbt/g...to-pool/224897

I honestly thought that this was an act of bad faith by the SBP.

The Gilas draftees were released only after Tab went out. Dwight and Thirdy were called up only after Tab went out.

[CoJ]

i still think that Chot snd SBP are going all put for Clarkson to get the FIBA exception and should that happen, SBP might naturalize another big in the mold of Blatche (or just tap blatche again provided that he is in shape which i doubt) but the clock is ticking.
hay sbp and their quick fix solutions

[IPC]

Big, slower and tactical >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> small, only very slightly faster and selfish

Chot just refuses to take notes from the Korean lineups who are completely unaccommodating to undersized players and instead make up for physical disadvantages like slower footspeed with good tactical and systemic adjustments.

This is true. Plus, our bigger lineups under Tab have been more versatile, especially on defense.

As for the slower pace, yes, I agree that we should adopt a slower game, it fits us better and tends to not give the opponent any rhythm.

I only hope that Chot will keep the versatility and then learn how to use the versatile players. Because if he doesn't, nako.

[IPC]

Man, I really hope that a team that regularly does one or more of these combinations wins a PBA championship:

1. Properly-sized traditional lineup (at least at the frontcourt spots);
2. A proper small ball lineup (good size internationally at 3 and 4);
2b. A lineup with three international sized wings manning the 3, 4, and 5.

One of these lineups should win to force a paradigm shift away from Pinoy small ball, which has at the 3 spot a player too undersized to play SF, at least in the PBA.

I dunno, just spitting ideas at this point.

I wish that properly-sized lineups, whether small ball or traditional ball, would win, not only in the PBA, but in other popular leagues as well, like the UAAP and NCAA, so that they can influence other teams to develop players and lineups more suitable to beat them, and probably fit for international ball.

I dunno if that wish may become reality, though. Ateneo is the closest. Although I'm a UP alum (and student), I'm not sure about them.

Just wanna see the system improve.

[IPC]

McCullough just tore his ACL: https://www.spin.ph/basketball/gilas...220314-fbfirst

Well, sucks for him. He could be a good NP prospect. Dunno how he'd come back.

McCullough could fill a hole at 3 and maybe small ball 4.

[thatweirdguy]

This is true. Plus, our bigger lineups under Tab have been more versatile, especially on defense.

As for the slower pace, yes, I agree that we should adopt a slower game, it fits us better and tends to not give the opponent any rhythm.

I only hope that Chot will keep the versatility and then learn how to use the versatile players. Because if he doesn't, nako.

Are our small ball players really faster and quicker though? Small doesn't always mean quicker

[IPC]

Are our small ball players really faster and quicker though? Small doesn't always mean quicker

If we're talking about Pinoy small ball, only slightly at best.

Agree on the small ball doesn't always mean quicker part. It, however, can also mean that a bigger guy can defend more positions, even the perimeter guys. It's basically versatility too.