Philippines Senior National Team Thread Vol. V

[DAdmiral]

^What happens if Kouame doesnt get an exception as others believe?

Surely, you still go with the sixth man of the year?

That's a question that can have an answer reserved until just prior to July 2023. no need to make the decision now. It's better to make the assesment and call then, who knows, AJ may be balling., or Clarkson may have regressed or Kai may be fully developed , so many unknown factors yet to be determined and as such we can wait and reserve to make call then (mid 2023), important thing is to focus on what we can do now.. get as many possible players to be developed and suitable to choose from

[thatweirdguy]

We still have leagues likes of MPBL, NBL-PH and even Vis-Min cup for them.. We have too much leagues here.. PBA should act that they are high quality league.. We are now in Globalization world.. PBA needs to realize that.. Get that market of Indonesia, Thailand and those from SEA market, Especially these teams are named by brand.. Expose their brands outside PH... Actually, these "lataks" decreasing the quality of the league.. Nagiging low class ang PBA because of these low class players...

True. As if it's the star players who's gonna get displace by imports. It's these low class players who should be playing in the lower leagues. They need to inject new players who could bring more quality qnd excitement to the league.

[IPC]

The composition of a Gilas team should always have one or two 3s that can slide to a big 2,should it come to defending a real big 2 on the other side.

a jimmy butler type of player that can guard all positions when needed. having 1 is a blessing, but 2 is already a pipe dream.

a well-developed and slightly taller lebron lopez comes to mind.

and now that we have kai and edu as well as a bunch of other slightly shorter but skilled centers in the roster, i personally think that our future naturalized player should resemble this prototype.

A younger and more defensive Justin Brownlee, if you will.

[IPC]

Triangle offense of Tim Cone might fare better since the personnel available now for Gilas fits in with the system.

Actually. Cone's traditional triangle will utilize and develop the passing skills of Kai, Go, and Tamayo, whether as the focal point of the triangle or in the pinch post. Makes perfects sense, as the offense will run through the bigs (who are oftentimes more willing passers than the guards except for Matt and probably Kiefer). And there are few guards that resort to 1-on-1 in the current team.

It's a good idea, actually.

[IPC]

If Chot will again coach Gilas in the future.. I think he will use Kai just like he did with Blatche.. Chot gives Blatche all he wants that time.. Maybe he will do the same for Kai.. while Baltazar or Tamayo will be his RDO.. Edu and Kouame will be his taller Pingris or better version of Japeth...

Difference is, Blatche operated from the perimeter. Chot runs his offense through the perimeter.

Right now, though, our strong point is our low-post bigs. Chot will have to play through the post so that he can run it through Kai.

[barok espinoza]

Difference is, Blatche operated from the perimeter. Chot runs his offense through the perimeter.

Right now, though, our strong point is our low-post bigs. Chot will have to play through the post so that he can run it through Kai.

not disrespecting him, but i once asked myself, "at what point did you realize you'd had enough of coach chot?" the answer was clear as daylight: when the AU-PH brawl happened.

[IPC]

not disrespecting him, but i once asked myself, "at what point did you realize you'd had enough of coach chot?" the answer was clear as daylight: when the AU-PH brawl happened.

I know it was to protect a teammate and show that we weren't backing down, but it wasn't exactly a smart move on our part to engage in that fight. That led to the ejection and eventual suspension of most of the lineup and coaching staff.

[Labradoodle]

^^ Castro's and Blatche's response are understandable. What's not excusable is how the bench reacted. Imbes na awatin, nakisawsaw pa

[JAMSKIE]

If Chot will again coach Gilas in the future.. I think he will use Kai just like he did with Blatche.. Chot gives Blatche all he wants that time.. Maybe he will do the same for Kai.. while Baltazar or Tamayo will be his RDO.. Edu and Kouame will be his taller Pingris or better version of Japeth...

Sorry to disagree with you bro, but Blatche & Kai don't have the same skill-set & playing style. Blatche is your modern day big man, actually more of a "four" rather than a center. Blatche isn't your back-to-the-basket/post-up player but is a face-up type of a player who is more comfortable operating from the wing or perimeter. Blatche' money move is his barreling drives complimented with a decent 3-pt. shooting. Kai on the other hand despite having an outside shot & decent dribbling for his size is more of the traditional post-up or back-to-the-basket type of a center. Kai may turn-out to possess pretty decent handles for a center his height, but I don't expect Kai's handles would reach the level of Dray Blatche. And Kai doesn't need to reach that level of ball handling skills.

So with this difference in playing style & skill-set, if ever coach Chot will once again coach Gilas, I don't think he's going to use/utilize Kai like he used/utilized Dray Blatche.

[thatweirdguy]

Sorry to disagree with you bro, but Blatche & Kai don't have the same skill-set & playing style. Blatche is your modern day big man, actually more of a "four" rather than a center. Blatche isn't your back-to-the-basket/post-up player but is a face-up type of a player who is more comfortable operating from the wing or perimeter. Blatche' money move is his barreling drives complimented with a decent 3-pt. shooting. Kai on the other hand despite having an outside shot & decent dribbling for his size is more of the traditional post-up or back-to-the-basket type of a center. Kai may turn-out to possess pretty decent handles for a center his height, but I don't expect Kai's handles would reach the level of Dray Blatche. And Kai doesn't need to reach that level of ball handling skills.

So with this difference in playing style & skill-set, if ever coach Chot will once again coach Gilas, I don't think he's going to use/utilize Kai like he used/utilized Dray Blatche.

TBH I want to see what Kai can do at the Asian level first. It's been a while since we last saw him play in a competitive game we don’t know what his level is at the moment. Maybe he could be the next Blatche.. or Porzingis. But I hope we give others a chance before we get Chot again

[interxavierxxx]

We already move on from this.. At this point after 2023, Tab will be gone for good (Except if we will qualify for Olympics, He will extend for 1 year).. He might be retire from coaching and I don't think Al Panlilio will try to hire another foreign coach, especially that BCAP always opposed the hiring of foreign coaches.. My first choice will be Jong Uichico.. because he's no.1 coaching disciple of Tab.. Then the 2nd one is Chot already, Because he's the best local coach internationally... We should pray Jong will take over the coaching shores and continue what Tab starts.. He should accept that...

As per the latest podcast involving Tab, he said he's not going anywhere as the older he gets, the harder it is to find another job.

[Sikatrix]

As per the latest podcast involving Tab, he said he's not going anywhere as the older he gets, the harder it is to find another job.

After 2023 is up in the air. I think whatever happens, 2023 is a great time to reassess and adjust the program.

[Labradoodle]

If Gilas performs satisfactorily, they'll probably keep Tab. If not, it now will depend if MVP will stick him to Ateneo

The SBP has the tendency to think short term. Just because the goal was not achieved, they overlook the improvements of the program and switch back to "last minute hugot from the PBA". This is what they did with Gilas 1. Instead of continuing the program, they let go of Toroman.

It will take about a decade to reach elite level. Iran took about a decade to be an Asian powerhouse.

Hopefully, Indonesia sticks with Toroman regardless of outcome if they want to be a contender in the Asian scene

[reamily]

Letting go of toroman is the plan all along.. it produced a jones cup championship in q012 and fiba world return by a runner up finish in 2013.. peak year of Gilas ika nga..

Did toroman lasted more than 3 years in iran? no, Did Tab last more than 3 years in Jordan also no..The success of the program is when after 2 or 3 years you make your nt competitive, anything beyond that is what I say.. "overstaying or I said no choice since no one better is capable" just like what Brett Brown was in Boomers and Tab Baldwin was with Tall Blacks after that great 2002 run..lelevel up dapat yun program and for Indonesia is for someone to be able to get the transfer of technology from Toroman..yun ang magiging lasting legacy ni Torman sa Indonesia pag nagkataon

[interxavierxxx]

That's why possibly Jong Uichico comeback w/ National team coach is possible because aside from being Tab disciple eh BCAP will not get mad because Uichico is also had good relationship w/ BCAP.. SBP also playing politics w/ BCAP and from the SMC camp..

The long term solution to the BCAP’s bullshit is to have more of Tab’s disciples.

Technology transfer as others put it.