Philippines Senior National Team Thread Vol. V

[mathematicianrcg]

if we cannot get the services of jayden harper and kyle gamber at the backcourt position. We would probably settle with this small guards enzo fojo is advertising.

Muhammad gunting - 5'11 guard

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gjcijpnzg2g&feature=share

daniel padilla - 6'0 guard

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2tlpobwpzgq&feature=share

lebron nieto (youngest brother of matt and mike)

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=al_xwte8umm&feature=share

dwayne miranda ( son of denok)

but they are all like 5'9 - 6'0

wait. I forgot the more quality foreign based ones.

Xavier chio and jacob bayla

[DAdmiral]

When does Kai Balungkay start schooling in Ateneo

[mathematicianrcg]

When does Kai Balungkay start schooling in Ateneo

Probably last year. He signed with admu July 2021

[IPC]

If we cannot get the services of Jayden Harper and Kyle Gamber at the backcourt position. We would probably settle with this small guards enzo fojo is advertising.

Muhammad Gunting - 5'11 Guard

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GjcIjpnzG2g&feature=share

Daniel Padilla - 6'0 Guard

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2tLpobwPZGQ&feature=share

Lebron Nieto (Youngest brother of Matt and Mike)

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=al_xWTE8uMM&feature=share

Dwayne Miranda ( son of denok)

But they are all like 5'9 - 6'0

Let's overlook the height if they either are natural playmakers or can develop playmaking, and they are at least as good as Castro, Jimmy, or Johnny A, or even better. They're gonna be PGs anyway.

[ja.he]

The Laura guy spamming is annoying..

How the practice of exceptions are applied and approved over time has established some consistency.
The reality is the U16 rule with how the exceptions are applied are now well and throughly established and accepted. Unfortunately for the Philippines the case for change is litterarally non existing.

Kouame's case weakness is his granting of passport late (22 yrs old ?). Our naturalization rules hurt us.
However one of the strengths of his case is were host of the WC (cannot deny this advantage)

I'm talking in general here , so let's not cite extraordinary outliners like Jawato which isn't the norm for exceptions

Having atleast one parent who is a citizen in the country still matters for the exemption. It is still making your case stronger. Jawato was request granted while Kouame? No idea.

It would have been different had Kouame has been here in the Philippines for a long like Kirk Long. Our naturalization law needs a fixing if we want to widen our pool for sports, not only in basketball but all sports. Sports industry is vital in most countries' economy just in case people said that we are changing things just for the sake of sports.

Anyway, the fixing of our naturalization laws should this way, foreigners that have been residents in the PH since 12 years old or younger should be automatically eligible to become a citizen in the Philippines by taking a oath of allegiance and subsequent registration of being a Filipino.

We have already lots famous personalities that were born to foreign parents but grew here in the Philippines, Park Jinri, Sandara Park, Grace Lee, Ryan Bang, Kirk Long, among others. Korea tweaked their nationality laws to accommodate more players with one Korean parent. Hence, we witnessed the Sandrin brothers, Moon brothers and Kim Minsoo to participate in the Korean team, although as naturalized players. But still, they tweaked their laws to accommodate their Kor-Ams and that's what matters.

However, knowing how purist Filipinos are, even to overseas-based Filipinos, it will not happen.

[mathematicianrcg]

Let's overlook the height if they either are natural playmakers or can develop playmaking, and they are at least as good as Castro, Jimmy, or Johnny A, or even better. They're gonna be PGs anyway.

I highly doubt the latter. They are not as close in talent to those 3 elite PG Js.

But for the former, yeah, I hope they can at least playmake for our Wings and Bigs. Based on higlights, they score more than playmake

[DAdmiral]

Having atleast one parent who is a citizen in the country still matters for the exemption. It is still making your case stronger. Jawato was request granted ppen.

All the other factors (blood relationship parent etc) while add to points for case are NOT requirements

The only explicit requirements for exemption are
1.Passport
2 # of years residency
3. # of years domestic play

[mathematicianrcg]

All the other factors (blood relationship parent etc) while add to points for case are NOT requirements

The only explicit requirements for exemption are
1.Passport
2 # of years residency
3. # of years domestic play

Hmmm. Is that so.

So, Chris Koon, Phillips Brothers, Malonzo, and Ballungay can be exempted in the future.

But obviously, sbp will only apply for exemption on 1 or 2 players

[ja.he]

All the other factors (blood relationship parent etc) while add to points for case are NOT requirements

The only explicit requirements for exemption are
1.Passport
2 # of years residency
3. # of years domestic play

And that could be the decisive factor why Kouame is a naturalized player while Jawato is not. Imagine, if we try to localize Kouame at that age (18 years old or older) and FIBA approves it, it will create a dangerous precedent to them. While on Jawato, the ramifications is not that big of a deal.

Like you said, there is an unwritten rule.

[ja.he]

Hmmm. Is that so.

So, Chris Koon, Phillips Brothers, Malonzo, and Ballungay can be exempted in the future.

But obviously, sbp will only apply for exemption on 1 or 2 players

i hope that michael philips and chris koon shows up in La Salle to be worthy for the exemption.

kai ballungay first arrived here at age 17 while 6'4, 18 year old andrew bongo, who just finished us high school last year, will play for ateneo.

[mathematicianrcg]

https://youtu.be/3sTNmPkS1go

Lol. Literally almost the same as my dream lineup for U18

[mathematicianrcg]

https://youtu.be/3sTNmPkS1go

Lol. Literally almost the same as my dream lineup for U18

I just missed the SG Abadam.

Guards: Gamber(if eligible), Abadam

Wings: Femi, Caelum, Mason, Domangcas, Basti, Jayden (if eligible)

Bigs: Demisana, Salvoro, Gagete

[DAdmiral]

And that could be the decisive factor why Kouame is a naturalized player while Jawato is not. Imagine, if we try to localize Kouame at that age (18 years old or older) and FIBA approves it, it will create a dangerous precedent to them. While on Jawato, the ramifications is not that big of a deal.

Like you said, there is an unwritten rule.

Actually I disagree , there are many who acquired citizenship who do not have parent who is a citizen (all Mexican minors who don't have legitimate US citizens as parents ). What is actually.more rare is to be a citizen of a country without having ever lived in the country or not a permanent resident . That is why the former (relationship to parent who is a citizen is not a requirement) while residency years is. Makes logical sense , especially today with many societies being multi mix race, with rapid migration of 1st generation individuals

If not for Indonesia being host and a not threat, the Jawato precedence is actually a big deal and really contrary to the norm. In that he acquired his passport and commenced residency already in his mid 20s as an adult as compared to being a teenager.
Let's be honest here, Jawato got the exception because Indonesia is host . Of course FIBA will not admit that though

[DAdmiral]

Those requirements will apply for Chris Dierker and Justin Young of Vietnam and Mohhamed Galiarga of Taipei, If VBA and CTBA will try to please FIBA for their cases as local player....

These requirements are in the context of exceptions for the U16 rule. It therefor follows that age of residency and domestic play are important. More merit is given to being developed and raised in a country as compared to working as an adult professional in the country. Not all residency years are equal

[ja.he]

These requirements are in the context of exceptions for the U16 rule. It therefor follows that age of residency and domestic play are important. More merit is given to being developed and raised in a country as compared to working as an adult professional in the country. Not all residency years are equal

Then Mohammed Gadiaga/Abasi of Chinese-Taipei deserves more to be considered local.

- Has been a resident of Taiwan since 8.
- Study grade, high school, and college in Taiwan.
- Played high school and college basketball in Taiwan.
- Playing pro in Taiwan.

Clearly, Abasi is a Taiwanese and his basketball heritage is Taiwanese. It is just that he failed to get his Taiwanese passport because eligibility for Taiwanese naturalization commences at age 18. I hope CTBA fights for eligibility as local which we failed to do with Kirk Long.