2022 Batang Gilas U16

[zairex]

It doesn't even have to be verified as true , to be considered as bad practice . The mere fact that it is even allowed to appoint a son as youth coach exactly upon being appointed head coach of the senior team is bad practice. Regardless if there is corrupt wrong doing or not . The wrong doing in practice has already occurred. zairex doesn't get this standard required to be above board . Making light of these practices and accepting it as OK is what drives deeper wrong doing. I guess you don't get this

Thats your problem, you like to tell agent of Kai how misinforming people. Here you are trying to accused a personwithout evidence. Fake news spreader is better than misinforming.
Tell me if USA or NCAA don't have father and son tandem in coaching or front office. Hiring your former player to a position in your team. Charles Tiu getting assitant coaching job with Toroman. And how is Cahrles Tiu now.

You dont need the verified truth to fit narrative

[The_Big_Cat]

To be fair to @zairex Kobe Paras was not available for the U17 Worlds. While Navarro just arrived in the Philippines and entered San Beda. Navarro was really raw and it took him two years in Team B of San Beda to develop.

However this “palakasan”, “padrino” and political patronage really happens. It is part of our culture for the longest time.

I agree there are a lot of players better than the Panlilio kid. But its the decision of the coach and team management to include him for the U17 Worlds.

[Rds]

Lets compare the members of that U17 team? All played in college except Panlilio right? Lets just admit that Panlilio was not any good. You harp on Dario but he played in college and the PBA. I think of all the members of the u17 Panlilio had the most questionable credentials. And it showed when he played. I dont know if there were other available bigs but it boggles the mind to think that he was the best available big at that time. Same as how Santi is playing so far. I hope the guy proves us wrong though.

[DAdmiral]

Thanks for using the example of Kai's agent , that one has irrefutable evidence of misinformation.
E.g. he's auto eligible, does not need to declare and cannot withdraw, all contrary to what Bell has informed public and media (Fact)
Again you don't get the principle of perceived conflict of interest, and rules to prohibit such practices.
Josh appointment as BG coach coincided with Chot's appointment as program director of all Gilas operations. That is already bad practice, simply because of perceived conflict of interest. Just say if you don't understand why this wrong already. And that explains everything.

[zairex]

Lets compare the members of that U17 team? All played in college except Panlilio right? Lets just admit that Panlilio was not any good. You harp on Dario but he played in college and the PBA. I think of all the members of the u17 Panlilio had the most questionable credentials. And it showed when he played. I dont know if there were other available bigs but it boggles the mind to think that he was the best available big at that time. Same as how Santi is playing so far. I hope the guy proves us wrong though.

I already said he wasn't that good. But if the logic stand then would you want to replace Dario with Kobe especially we had alot of PG and Kobe will be able to defend bigs and get rebounds. Why not also Michael Dela Cruz or Go. Would Kobe better at that time. If Kobe was available why not replace others also or maybe their is a reason.

[zairex]

Thanks for using the example of Kai's agent , that one has irrefutable evidence of misinformation.
E.g. he's auto eligible, does not need to declare and cannot withdraw, all contrary to what Bell has informed public and media (Fact)
Again you don't get the principle of perceived conflict of interest, and rules to prohibit such practices.
Josh appointment as BG coach coincided with Chot's appointment as program director of all Gilas operations. That is already bad practice, simply because of perceived conflict of interest. Just say if you don't understand why this wrong already. And that explains everything.

You don't get the issue. Accusing without evidence is misinformed facts or fake news, thats the main issue.. So you have evidence or not. Logic could stand when you look at other players Kobe could have replace.

[PaulLee3]

Romero only played limited minutes. I don't have any problem with his inclusions. Maybe his dad just wants him train against the best 17 and under players in the country.

[barok espinoza]

Romero only played limited minutes. I don't have any problem with his inclusions. Maybe his dad just wants him train against the best 17 and under players in the country.

i think we're all missing the bigger picture here and that is there is no love on earth greater than that of a father for his son, and that it is the duty of the father to give his sons a good chance. Remember when your dads didn't want to hold your hands? they were holding your back ahaha charot!

[PaulLee3]

i think we're all missing the bigger picture here and that is there is no love on earth greater than that of a father for his son, and that it is the duty of the father to give his sons a good chance. Remember when your dads didn't want to hold your hands? they were holding your back ahaha charot!

I agree. I was watching their training videos, and Romero seems like a good defensive player.

[Ville Ur]

What is DDO jr's credentials? Did he coach/ top assistant of a team to a championship or top place, defeat a superior team, coach a team to a winning record after a long period of time, etc? Just curious why SBP accepted him as BG coach over more accomplished junior team coaches or this is just plain SBP embracing and accepting a conflict of interest situation.

[empyreanmaze]

What is DDO jr's credentials? Did he coach/ top assistant of a team to a championship or top place, defeat a superior team, coach a team to a winning record after a long period of time, etc? Just curious why SBP accepted him as BG coach over more accomplished junior team coaches or this is just plain SBP embracing and accepting a conflict of interest situation.

Reyes clan money and political influence, it's the philippines get used to it

[JAMSKIE]

Who have watched Korea's game vs. Kazakhstan last night? Are the koreans impressive?

I have a feeling Japan is stronger than Korea in this tournament. The Korea-New Zealand game tonight would be very interesting.

[Rds]

I already said he wasn't that good. But if the logic stand then would you want to replace Dario with Kobe especially we had alot of PG and Kobe will be able to defend bigs and get rebounds. Why not also Michael Dela Cruz or Go. Would Kobe better at that time. If Kobe was available why not replace others also or maybe their is a reason.

I dont know either. Im saying even Dario has credentials. What was Panlilio's? Secondly, was Panlilio the best big available at that time? Again maybe there was somebody better than Dario. But the fact he played in the UAAP later and in college proves my point that he was a decent player. I havent heard of anything about Panlilio.

I guess nepotism is a complicated thing. But you see the bad effects now and then. Like in Panlilios case anybody who saw the games would say we could have used another big. IRC Dario played. Not memorably but I dont he was bad. Why would I pick a big over Dario when Panlilio is there sitting on the bench?

I remember the reason why the U17 team was not upgraded. They said they rewarded the players who gave the effort to qualify for the worlds. Makes sense for the key contributors. But you are representing the country. It was a missed opportunity to expose one or two good players to higher competition.

They actually learned their lesson. After that they held try outs for the u16 and u18. But when Al Panlilio says something is best for the national team it sounds hypocritical.

[digitalsuperman]

when is the japan game and what time manila time?

[zairex]

I dont know either. Im saying even Dario has credentials. What was Panlilio's? Secondly, was Panlilio the best big available at that time? Again maybe there was somebody better than Dario. But the fact he played in the UAAP later and in college proves my point that he was a decent player. I havent heard of anything about Panlilio.

I guess nepotism is a complicated thing. But you see the bad effects now and then. Like in Panlilios case anybody who saw the games would say we could have used another big. IRC Dario played. Not memorably but I dont he was bad. Why would I pick a big over Dario when Panlilio is there sitting on the bench?

I remember the reason why the U17 team was not upgraded. They said they rewarded the players who gave the effort to qualify for the worlds. Makes sense for the key contributors. But you are representing the country. It was a missed opportunity to expose one or two good players to higher competition.

They actually learned their lesson. After that they held try outs for the u16 and u18. But when Al Panlilio says something is best for the national team it sounds hypocritical.

Diego dario, was ok but the decision at the time was not based on him being PBA players. As you said it was the reward for the team na nag hirap. Thats the fact. Again if your logic is based on influence then why not let go Michael Dela Cruz for Kobe or any other PG. The problem is making facts with no evidence. To refresh why Kobe wasn't on U16 Asia and I17 Worlds.

https://sports.inquirer.net/121899/benjie-paras-son-world-u-18-slam-dunk-champ/amp

https://www.spin.ph/basketball/kobe-paras-set-to-miss-out-as-ph-coach-bent-on-sending-same-team-to-under-17-worlds?ref=article_tag

I want to stop this discussion has no one has evidence of their accusations. Let stop becaming showbiz thread.