Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.

2022 Batang Gilas U16

Collapse
This topic is closed.
X
X
 
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • Originally posted by ja.he View Post
    the problem with the Reyeses is that they are putting premium on offense sacrificing the team's ability to defend. the problem, though, is that i don't think that their favorite players are not that skilled offensively.
    I've felt for quite a while is that we should build our rosters around defense, and that starts with youth. That means selecting players with the right combination of length and quickness for perimeter players and some forwards, and more guys with at least a decent motor. And yes, less Pinoy small ball lineups in favor of a good-sized traditional lineup or even a proper small ball lineup.

    Having a staff who can teach defense can help too.

    Comment


    • Originally posted by IPC View Post
      I've felt for quite a while is that we should build our rosters around defense, and that starts with youth. That means selecting players with the right combination of length and quickness for perimeter players and some forwards, and more guys with at least a decent motor. And yes, less Pinoy small ball lineups in favor of a good-sized traditional lineup or even a proper small ball lineup.

      Having a staff who can teach defense can help too.
      if they think that a 6'0 off-guard can easily steal the ball from a 6'4-6'5 equally skilled and fast shooting guard, they are dead wrong. also, they forgot that shots are released upwards not downwards - standing reach height is important to disrupt someone from taking a shot.
      Attack
      defend
      Unite

      Comment


      • Originally posted by ja.he View Post
        if they think that a 6'0 off-guard can easily steal the ball from a 6'4-6'5 equally skilled and fast shooting guard, they are dead wrong. also, they forgot that shots are released upwards not downwards - standing reach height is important to disrupt someone from taking a shot.
        Even a 6'2"-6'3" off-guard would have been better, like Cansino, Abando, or probably Mamuyac. Better chance to contest a 6'4"-6'5"' player's shot.

        Comment


        • Originally posted by IPC View Post
          Even a 6'2"-6'3" off-guard would have been better, like Cansino, Abando, or probably Mamuyac. Better chance to contest a 6'4"-6'5"' player's shot.
          Hopefully, in Final 12. They will go for Size. It seems Gemao and Bahay will both make the lineup. I dont mind them being in the Final 12. Looks like they are impressing in practice. But they should be the ones alternating in the PG spot.

          My own Final 12

          10 Man Rotation of:

          PG: Gemao (6'0-6'1), Bahay (5'10-5'11)

          SG: Bayla (6'4-6'5), Jones (6'2-6'3)

          SF: Basti (6'5-6'6), Pre (6'4-6'5)

          PF: Harris (6'5-6'6), Kotov (6'6-6'7)

          C: Mahmood (6'6-6'7), Porter (6'5)

          The other 2. Idk. Not familiar much with other kids. But above will be my rotation. Not Tall, But it is okish in size considering what is available.

          PS: Based on tiebreaker article, they will have tuneup friendlies in Doha. Hopefully, we can watch and see it

          Comment


          • China is known to fake birth certificates so they are actually sending 18 yr olds to the U16 tournaments.
            sigpic

            Comment


            • I wonder if this 2022 Team can Outperform 2018 team.

              The 2018 team placed 4th, and earned the right to play in U17 that time.

              That 2018 team have size with Kai, Cortez, and Chiu. Kai was a monster there having 20-20 games in QF and SF. And he was named in Mythical 5.

              Now, this 2022 team, Have taller players in Guards and Wings. (If they choose the taller ones), So, I bet they can outperform the likes of Padrigao, Fortea, and Abadiano. They have no dominant Big like Kai. But I am hoping for Mahmood and Konov to be a revelation here.

              Comment


              • Originally posted by IPC View Post
                Small ball is sacrificing size for speed and vesatility at the 4 and 5 positions. It doesn't necessarily mean sacrificing size at the 1, 2, and 3 positions, which ja.he and sajubeads was pointing out. They showed concern over the undersized players at 1 and 2, which will affect our ability to defend.
                This is u16 youth league, there are no 6'3 to 6'7 manchildren that will play pg for any national team and certainly no one w extensive intl experience. Our current team has decent size and more importantly, the athletic ability to play and guard multiple positions as well as run. Id rather have that than 8 stiffs like gian chiu playing at this level.

                Some people have a tough time understanding that tall people tend to develop their games slower than the shorter ones hence most of filipino players at this age, its the shorter kids that have more advanced games and skills.

                Comment


                • Originally posted by crenshaw View Post
                  This is u16 youth league, there are no 6'3 to 6'7 manchildren that will play pg for any national team and certainly no one w extensive intl experience. Our current team has decent size and more importantly, the athletic ability to play and guard multiple positions as well as run. Id rather have that than 8 stiffs like gian chiu playing at this level.

                  Some people have a tough time understanding that tall people tend to develop their games slower than the shorter ones hence most of filipino players at this age, its the shorter kids that have more advanced games and skills.
                  I myself am content with the size of the frontline from 3, 4, and 5, so long as the 3 isn't 6'3" or below. As long as they show versatility and talent, the lineup can manage.

                  Comment


                  • Originally posted by crenshaw View Post
                    This is u16 youth league, there are no 6'3 to 6'7 manchildren that will play pg for any national team and certainly no one w extensive intl experience. Our current team has decent size and more importantly, the athletic ability to play and guard multiple positions as well as run. Id rather have that than 8 stiffs like gian chiu playing at this level.

                    Some people have a tough time understanding that tall people tend to develop their games slower than the shorter ones hence most of filipino players at this age, its the shorter kids that have more advanced games and skills.
                    do they really have the more advanced skills? or is it because the taller prospects do not have much opportunities the shorter players are getting?
                    Attack
                    defend
                    Unite

                    Comment


                    • Originally posted by ja.he View Post
                      do they really have the more advanced skills? or is it because the taller prospects do not have much opportunities the shorter players are getting?
                      I know what you are getting at but what can we do? its both a resources and cultural matter. For obvious reasons we lack the infra, coaching etc to make it happen. Second, here if youre a big and you play perimeter more than bang in the post, they get labeled as soft.

                      I see how the campazzos mills and barea still flourish in the intl game is not much about the size, but more about being familiar with the playing style and physicality. That is the part our locas should get used to the most.

                      Comment


                      • Originally posted by ja.he View Post
                        do they really have the more advanced skills? or is it because the taller prospects do not have much opportunities the shorter players are getting?
                        I know what you are getting at but what can we do? its both a resources and cultural matter. For obvious reasons we lack the infra, coaching etc to make it happen. Second, here if youre a big and you play perimeter more than bang in the post, they get labeled as soft.

                        I see how the campazzos mills and barea still flourish in the intl game is not much about the size, but more about being familiar with the playing style and physicality. That is the part our locas should get used to the most.

                        Comment


                        • Originally posted by crenshaw View Post
                          I know what you are getting at but what can we do? its both a resources and cultural matter. For obvious reasons we lack the infra, coaching etc to make it happen. Second, here if youre a big and you play perimeter more than bang in the post, they get labeled as soft.

                          I see how the campazzos mills and barea still flourish in the intl game is not much about the size, but more about being familiar with the playing style and physicality. That is the part our locas should get used to the most.
                          well, the writer of Hardcourt (PBA Annual) disparaged RDO, YDO and Mick Pennisi for playing in the perimeter despite their height and the fact they are bigmen.

                          i don't know but the mentality of Filipinos in playing basketball is dragging the country down in terms of development.
                          Attack
                          defend
                          Unite

                          Comment


                          • Originally posted by ja.he View Post
                            well, the writer of Hardcourt (PBA Annual) disparaged RDO, YDO and Mick Pennisi for playing in the perimeter despite their height and the fact they are bigmen.

                            i don't know but the mentality of Filipinos in playing basketball is dragging the country down in terms of development.
                            I agree, we are very immature in terms of keeping up with how the game has evolved. But going back to regular programming, i hope we can see through the devt of this current crop of batang gilas where they can grow in the game together. I have high hopes.

                            Comment


                            • Originally posted by ja.he View Post
                              well, the writer of Hardcourt (PBA Annual) disparaged RDO, YDO and Mick Pennisi for playing in the perimeter despite their height and the fact they are bigmen.

                              i don't know but the mentality of Filipinos in playing basketball is dragging the country down in terms of development.
                              wow, they're still publishing those? last time i bought the PBA annual was way back early 2000s.

                              I hope that our mentality in terms of bigmen will change after a generation, especially that kids today are exposed to modern bigs in the NBA like Embiid, Jokic KAT, KP. Too bad, our coaches would still emphasize on the traditional post/back to the basket set up as its a easy win especially with the dearth of bigmen and the emphasize of coaches/managers on job security

                              Comment


                              • Originally posted by CoJ View Post
                                wow, they're still publishing those? last time i bought the PBA annual was way back early 2000s.

                                I hope that our mentality in terms of bigmen will change after a generation, especially that kids today are exposed to modern bigs in the NBA like Embiid, Jokic KAT, KP. Too bad, our coaches would still emphasize on the traditional post/back to the basket set up as its a easy win especially with the dearth of bigmen and the emphasize of coaches/managers on job security
                                well, it was mentioned in Hardcourt 2004-05 edition. BTW, I only owned two editions of it (2001 and 2004/05).
                                Attack
                                defend
                                Unite

                                Comment

                                Working...
                                X

                                Debug Information