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  • DAdmiral
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    Originally posted by Sikatrix View Post
    Isnt Konov much different from Navarro in that Navarro is a non shooter that knows where to be and what to do?
    Actually the weird thing is coming out of Greece , Navarro was thought to be a shooter . I think with time playing smart and being at the right place can be taught.
    People nit pick U16 players and absolutely they still have lots of flaws and are raw.. I think all these things can be fixed with coaching
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    Some trivia, in Ateneo trainings some players are not allowed to shoot in scrimmages until they fix their stroke. Lol a giveaway.
    Last edited by DAdmiral; 06-18-2022, 10:20 PM.

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  • Sikatrix
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    Isnt Konov much different from Navarro in that Navarro is a non shooter that knows where to be and what to do?

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  • DAdmiral
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    Originally posted by TheRodster21 View Post
    What upside do you see? For Konov I see a better Baltazar.
    He's definitely more fluid and has better handles than a young Baltazar

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  • TheRodster21
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    Originally posted by DAdmiral View Post
    Put it this way, I see more upside than Navarro
    What upside do you see? For Konov I see a better Baltazar.

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  • The_Big_Cat
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    Originally posted by reamily View Post
    Ayaw niyo kasing maniwala sa akin magaling yun Japan
    Yes Japan is a great team this year. Batang Gilas had bad luck in the draw and faced Japan early in the tournament. The Japan big kid is versatile and has US NCAA potential.

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  • monsoonxvi
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    Originally posted by DAdmiral View Post
    Put it this way, I see more upside than Navarro
    "Upside potential" is a concept that a lot among us ignore.

    Especially at the youth stages, players who are currently excelling (but with limited upside) are preferred over projects that have very good upside. Just browse the podcast of Mikee Reyes where he interviews players. It is very interesting because he always asks them how they started their basketball journey and how their development transpired. Almost all of the shorter players have been stars at a very early age, and most of the bigs were late bloomers. Most of the taller players were ignored and did not have proper training in their early years because they weren't good early. It is common for taller players to be less coordinated because they never get to be used to their bodies since they are always growing. Shorter players will almost always have the coordination/athleticism advantage early on. We must see past this and have a long-term outlook.

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  • DAdmiral
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    Originally posted by live_evil View Post
    Konov will flourish under Tab where he will get a lot of proper looks from down town.
    Put it this way, I see more upside than Navarro

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  • thatweirdguy
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    Originally posted by judasmartel View Post
    The Seniors lost in a tune-up game, the U16 lost in a classification match to drop to their lowest finish in tournament history.
    Lowest finish...so far! I'm sure Josh could do worse.

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  • monsoonxvi
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    Originally posted by robert0326
    Atleast we already secured the eligibility of some of Fil-foreigners out there... Especially Caleum Harris...
    Very important point.

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  • monsoonxvi
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    Japan is a sleeping basketball giant in Asia. They're probably the only asian (excl. Aus and NZ) country with NBA players right now. The only thing holding them back is the lack of popularity in their country. But with Hachimura and Watanabe, kids growing up in Japan may get into basketball. Even in the US, Japanese-Am youth players are the most fundamentally sound among asians and they have so many prospects that could make D1 teams (they usually just choose academics over athletics).

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  • art00
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    BTW, India beat Iran, 83-78, and will play Korea for 5th place tomorrow. Batang Gilas, on the other hand, will play Iran for 7th place. The ship is sinking...

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  • judasmartel
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    Originally posted by art00 View Post
    Of course... The father made history by winning out first SEAG Silver medal in 33 years. Now, it's the son's turn.

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    And the father will do so well in the future that he might give us our first SEAG bronze medal ever.

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  • art00
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    Originally posted by judasmartel View Post
    The Seniors lost in a tune-up game, the U16 lost in a classification match to drop to their lowest finish in tournament history.
    Of course... The father made history by winning our first SEAG Silver medal in 33 years. Now, it's the son's turn.

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    Last edited by art00; 06-18-2022, 06:40 PM.

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  • mayfel
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    Originally posted by Rds View Post
    Just looking at the boxscore, Zain only played 23 mins. Got 12 pts on 6/8 shooting 6 rbs, 2 TOs, 1 STL with a minus 3. While Caelum played 31 mins. Got 10 pts on 4/10 shooting 6 rbs, 5TOs 0 STL with minus 13. Did Josh play Caelum as small ball center and it backfired? I think at this point we are giving Caelum too much freedom compared with his skill level. I get the vibe that he wants to show he is better than the competition and shows it by trying to dunk as much as possible. But aside from athleticism he doesnt have much skills yet compared to the elite of this level.
    Zain is defending the korean big and Bahay or Nieto will help then it will be open 3 for Korea. I think the best thing is to let them score inside than the outside. There is a stretch in 2Q Gilas they didnt have Porter or Zain inside. The coach played against the strength of the opposition. Also, this is Korea, they should do man to man all the time

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  • judasmartel
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    Wow, Japan has a very strong run in this tournament, soundly defeating NZ in the Semifinals. Yuto Kawashima exploded for 38 and 7.

    Since Japan beat NZ by 20 and we lost to them by only 6, does this mean this Batang Gilas team is stronger than NZ?

    So many firsts in this tournament so far. India making the top 8 for the first time ever, Lebanon making the top 4 and the U17 WC for the first time ever, and Japan demolishing NZ and making the finals for the first time ever.

    EDIT: I noticed in this tournament that Korea, NZ, and ME teams have low-scoring games while Japan and AUS have high-scoring games. What gives? Are the Korea, NZ, and the ME teams more defensive while Japan and AUS have more offensive firepower?

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