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  • Foreign US exposure at mid teens at high school level is my point .
    It's the development environment, not the enthicity of the player.
    You can be African and 6,6 foot tall , but if you play for a Philippine high school you will be most likely a center.
    BTW the definition of fil foreign isn't mix enthicity, but a Filipino citizen who is based overseas, my son is a fil foreigner .

    Someone like Hepa or Tolentino isn't really a fil foreigner, they are just American citizens who have Filipino entnicity

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    • Mag advance na ako, for next iteration of FIBA Asia U16, if the kid has passion and trained well we will have by then i think a 6'10" - 7'0" Son of RDO. Hopefully there will be kids emerging that have same capabilities and potential as what the current core have. We are really improving on the 2-5 positions. Its the PG that seems we lack quality and size.

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      • Originally posted by mathematicianrcg View Post
        Competente, and even Bayla are not Fil Foreigns.

        Competente is homegrown. And plays here and was palarong pambansa MVP. Then went to US to train for last 2 years to improve himself for him to be in Batang Gilas.

        Bayla is Full Filipino, he just grew up in US. So, he is a Foreign Based Full Filipino. Literally like Dalph Panopio.

        As for Fil Foreigns talaga. Konov, Zain, Caelum have shown flashes of greatness. But obviously, they have aspects in their game which needs polishing.

        Hmmm. Hard Question. Its close. Maybe Caelum by a bit. I just think Caelum can impact the floor and game when he is off night in scoring.
        Competente proving himself abroad is a good idea for those that are able to do so. Other homegrown prospects currently in US high schools include Kenji Duremdes and Echo Laure.

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        • It's overseas exposure for 15 to 25 years old , obviously the earlier the better

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          • Originally posted by Sikatrix View Post
            Competente proving himself abroad is a good idea for those that are able to do so. Other homegrown prospects currently in US high schools include Kenji Duremdes and Echo Laure.
            indeed, competente is really competent.
            Attack
            defend
            Unite

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            • Originally posted by Sikatrix View Post
              Competente proving himself abroad is a good idea for those that are able to do so. Other homegrown prospects currently in US high schools include Kenji Duremdes and Echo Laure.
              hope RDO's son can be sponsored by his kinakapatid Kai Sotto thru EWP to train at TSF.

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              • Originally posted by DAdmiral View Post
                Foreign US exposure at mid teens at high school level is my point .
                It's the development environment, not the enthicity of the player.
                You can be African and 6,6 foot tall , but if you play for a Philippine high school you will be most likely a center.
                BTW the definition of fil foreign isn't mix enthicity, but a Filipino citizen who is based overseas, my son is a fil foreigner .

                Someone like Hepa or Tolentino isn't really a fil foreigner, they are just American citizens who have Filipino entnicity
                So Panopio and Bayla are Fil Foreigns.

                While Jalen Green and Clarkson are not?
                Last edited by mathematicianrcg; 06-18-2022, 02:11 AM.

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                • Originally posted by Wannabe View Post
                  Mag advance na ako, for next iteration of FIBA Asia U16, if the kid has passion and trained well we will have by then i think a 6'10" - 7'0" Son of RDO. Hopefully there will be kids emerging that have same capabilities and potential as what the current core have. We are really improving on the 2-5 positions. Its the PG that seems we lack quality and size.
                  Next year???

                  2023 is next (Since 2021 dapat tong 2022 U16)

                  2007-2008 kids.

                  I will search who are notables. I only have CJ amos as of now.

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                  • Edit: Actually, we have some short list as of now

                    2007 Born Gilas
                    Fil Foreign
                    CJ Amos

                    Homegrowns:

                    Kiefer Alas
                    TJ De los Santos
                    Renzo Gatmaitan
                    Gian Gomez
                    Jaime Gomez de Liaño
                    Bryan Hachuela
                    Henry Madrangca
                    Lebron Manding
                    Daniel Sta. Maria
                    Renzo Tabunar
                    Emer Vales
                    Kyn Vicente

                    Obviously, more Fil Foreigns and Homegrowns will be invited next year


                    But I dont think there are big names there next year except for CJ.

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                    • Originally posted by mathematicianrcg View Post
                      So Panopio and Bayla are Fil Foreigns.

                      While Jalen Green and Clarkson are not?
                      Well Jalen is American citizen though I think Jordan has Filipino citizenship so he counts as fil foreign. But people should stop looking at it genetically as well because just because someone is full Filipino doesn’t mean he isn’t fil foreign either.

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                      • Originally posted by TheRodster21 View Post
                        Well Jalen is American citizen though I think Jordan has Filipino citizenship so he counts as fil foreign. But people should stop looking at it genetically as well because just because someone is full Filipino doesn’t mean he isn’t fil foreign either.
                        According to anayzed: Fil Foreign is defined as Filipino Citizen who is based overseas.

                        So, Lebron Lopez is not Fil Foreign because he is based here.

                        Anyway, enough for the Homegrown/Fil Foreign Classification.

                        Only 3 classifications matter in Fiba for Gilas.

                        1. Eligible
                        2. Not Eligible
                        3. NP

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                        • Originally posted by mathematicianrcg View Post
                          So Panopio and Bayla are Fil Foreigns.

                          While Jalen Green and Clarkson are not?
                          Legally Clarkson is a Filipino citizen, so is Dalph and Bayla .
                          Now if you're referring to enthicity then Bruno Mars, Green all have Filipino enthicity, but from a legal standpoint are not Filipino citizens

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                          • Originally posted by mathematicianrcg View Post
                            According to anayzed: Fil Foreign is defined as Filipino Citizen who is based overseas.

                            So, Lebron Lopez is not Fil Foreign because he is based here.

                            Anyway, enough for the Homegrown/Fil Foreign Classification.

                            Only 3 classifications matter in Fiba for Gilas.

                            1. Eligible
                            2. Not Eligible
                            3. NP
                            I think that kind of mentality is what holds people back from accepting a Kouame as a local when fiba could look at them as such.

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                            • Originally posted by mathematicianrcg View Post
                              According to anayzed: Fil Foreign is defined as Filipino Citizen who is based overseas.

                              So, Lebron Lopez is not Fil Foreign because he is based here.

                              Anyway, enough for the Homegrown/Fil Foreign Classification.

                              Only 3 classifications matter in Fiba for Gilas.

                              1. Eligible
                              2. Not Eligible
                              3. NP
                              Yes of course LeBron Lopez or Abeuva, Castro Williams are not fil foreigners like all those with Chinese or Spanish foreign enthicity is not a fil foreigner

                              Actually from a basketball standpoint it matters to classify players a developed locally homegrown or overseas based, cause it really is a reflection of their type of game developed , it's basically referring to where what environment their gsme was influenced by. (It matters in terms of style and type of gsme ).
                              That is why Bayla is being compared to Dwight and not a Pogoy or Konov to Tuffin and not so much Troy

                              Contrary to what some may be accusing me off, where one develops his gsme is actually a relevant meaningful basketball discussion. As an example Dalph style is different from Remy Martin a reflection of where they were developed.
                              Last edited by DAdmiral; 06-18-2022, 03:52 AM.

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                              • Originally posted by mathematicianrcg View Post
                                According to anayzed: Fil Foreign is defined as Filipino Citizen who is based overseas.

                                So, Lebron Lopez is not Fil Foreign because he is based here.

                                Anyway, enough for the Homegrown/Fil Foreign Classification.

                                Only 3 classifications matter in Fiba for Gilas.
                                Should we really care for the labels? Really Analyzed? Baka bukas, may 3 page explanation about who's Fil-foreign and who is of Filipino ethnicity only, like the Draft eligibilities and rules na naman

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