East Asia Super League

[Silent Killer]

Tell me when I didn't call out PBA about their rules. I just add a prospective of viability as the main reason for them not be able to do what other want like going regional. It is nice but not viable at the moment.

Back to EASL, you complain that SMB does one on on which is true yet you don't see how KT did the same. In fact, SMB has one more assist than KT. Who is bias now.

majority that i asked about this is hammonds played within the system and didn’t ball hogged unlike anosike.. some people around here too.. dunno what draws your conclusion that KT sonicboom did the same thing..

[IPC]

If there's anything to nitpick about SMB last night, it's their less than ideal defense (I saw some poor PnR defense, some wide-open looks for KT, and poor boxouts), their minutes management of June Mar (28 minutes) and Anosike (38 minutes), Anosike's load (25 shot attempts and 12 FTA), and their poor defensive rebounding (got 28 defensive rebounds, but allowed 17 offensive rebounds). Miller's bad game too.

[ZIMATAR]

Meanwhile, something seems to be going on with SMB. Apparently, Terrence Romeo posted an Instagram story saying he had given his passport to Gee Abanilla the day before and was ready to play. That’s why he was puzzled as to why Coach Gallent didn’t use him. I was really hoping to finally see a matchup between Heo Hoon and Terrence Romeo.

https://www.spin.ph/basketball/why-terrence-romeo-didn-t-play-in-smb-s-loss-to-suwon-kt-a793-20241002?ref=home_featured_1

[zairex]

majority that i asked about this is hammonds played within the system and didn’t ball hogged unlike anosike.. some people around here too.. dunno what draws your conclusion that KT sonicboom did the same thing..

Ask your friends then why KT has one less assist than SMB if KT didn't went to their import majority of the time. For context, Japan vs France, Japan had only had 16 assist in that game. Didn't their guards went one on one too

[Silent Killer]

Ask your friends then why KT has one less assist than SMB if KT didn't went to their import majority of the time. For context, Japan vs France, Japan had only had 16 assist in that game. Didn't their guards went one on one too

you are trying to make KT sonicboom and SMB on the same boat where isnt the case.. hammonds plays within the system whereas anosike isnt..

can you call a 39 pt guy a ballhog who plays within a system? whereas a 34 pt guy who handles the ball most of the time and didnt play within the system the coach is trying to implement?

this is what i’m saying you are trying things in the same boat as the league’s practice and the pba team to other leagues practice where isnt the case..

and why fans call anosike ballhog and hammonds isnt?

[Metta]

Prime Westbrook racked up a lot of assists but was considered a ball hog. Steph takes ridiculous shots, shoots even if he's not open and has less assists but he's never considered a ballhog. Assist numbers alone does not paint the whole picture.

The difference with Steph is that shooting is the team identity and he is the shooter. And that system identity has produced championships.

[zairex]

you are trying to make KT sonicboom and SMB on the same boat where isnt the case.. hammonds plays within the system whereas anosike isnt..

can you call a 39 pt guy a ballhog who plays within a system? whereas a 34 pt guy who handles the ball most of the time and didnt play within the system the coach is trying to implement?

this is what i’m saying you are trying things in the same boat as the league’s practice and the pba team to other leagues practice where isnt the case..

and why fans call anosike ballhog and hammonds isnt?

What system gives the ball to import if all else fails and lets him create the shot? Good ball movement? They can pass the ball around, but it's still one-on-one moves counted by analytics if the shotmaker needs to dribble several times and make several moves to score. That happened to KT, so they didn't record an assist. It didn't lead to an easy basket, and the player needed to do a lot more moves and counters to score.

They should have more assists if the other players were open because of the plays, and an assist should be counted when it creates quick shots. Since they had fewer assists, the imports needed to make a lot more one-on-one moves to make the basket.

The thing that you mistook as good ball movement is the passing around the ball. That is not an effective ball movement as it didn't lead to any opening. What happens if there no opening they just give the ball to their import to score. That's their last-minute offense doing that when all else fail. Similar thing happeGilas against Brazil in 2nd half. It not that Gilas wasn't passing the ball, it was that their plays wasn't working that resulted to one on one plays for their last option in offense. In KT case, its fortunate for them their import was more effective on one on one plays.

This is the summary of my contention, if they played like a team that didn't go to their import to score on one on one plays then they would have more assists.

[zairex]

Prime Westbrook racked up a lot of assists but was considered a ball hog. Steph takes ridiculous shots, shoots even if he's not open and has less assists but he's never considered a ballhog. Assist numbers alone does not paint the whole picture.

The difference with Steph is that shooting is the team identity and he is the shooter. And that system identity has produced championships.

You are right. The offense flowed through Westbrook that's why he had a lot of assists and he was effective in getting the defense to focus on him so it opened his other teammates for an assist. Steph played through the system as there are a lot more scorers and that's why assists per game were 21 for Oklahoma while GS was 30 in 2016-17. 9 more assists which is my contention if KT didn't go to their import for one on one plays (which is the same with SMC) they would have more assists.

[Metta]

The point is about assists not giving the complete picture when it comes to individual players, ballhogs and even team quality. Not all assists are created equal.

Top 3 in assists last season are Pacers, Spurs and Warriors. Champion Celtics were at 15.

High team assist numbers usually indicate an offensively focused team. But defense wins championships. The poster boy for Systematic Teams - Duncan Spurs - were always towards the middle and lower in terms of team assists rankings.

The Warrior dynasty are revolutionary outliers who required several unicorns...goat shooter Steph, 3-and-D god Klay, assist-and-D enforcer Draymond and plain unicorn KD.

[zairex]

The point is about assists not giving the complete picture when it comes to individual players, ballhogs and even team quality. Not all assists are created equal.

Top 3 in assists last season are Pacers, Spurs and Warriors. Champion Celtics were at 15.

High team assist numbers usually indicate an offensively focused team. But defense wins championships. The poster boy for Systematic Teams - Duncan Spurs - were always towards the middle and lower in terms of team assists rankings.

The Warrior dynasty are revolutionary outliers who required several unicorns...goat shooter Steph, 3-and-D god Klay, assist-and-D enforcer Draymond and plain unicorn KD.

You mention Westbrook so I took his MVP stats as comparison. I never said because you are a high assist team you will win. Like Rain or Shine, Northport and Ginebra top teams in Assists last season they didn't win a single championship. Kindly read my summary again.

[Metta]

You mention Westbrook so I took his MVP stats as comparison. I never said because you are a high assist team you will win. Like Rain or Shine, Northport and Ginebra top teams in Assists last season they didn't win a single championship. Kindly read my summary again.

Ask your friends then why KT has one less assist than SMB if KT didn't went to their import majority of the time. For context, Japan vs France, Japan had only had 16 assist in that game. Didn't their guards went one on one too

So what is your point about assists? To use the number when it's convenient for your argument.

I reiterate my point...assists by itself does not paint a clear picture so you can't accurately use it as a barometer of team/system quality.

[zairex]

So what is your point about assists? To use the number when it's convenient for your argument.

I reiterate my point...assists by itself does not paint a clear picture so you can't accurately use it as a barometer of team/system quality.

I guess you didn't read my previous messages to Silent Killer. I advise you to do so before inserting yourself to the conversation. Kindly check on what I wrote and its not just about the assist number.

[k3ttch]

Looking forward to Meralco - Ryukyu. Durham will want to prove something against the team that cut him.

[Metta]

This is the summary of my contention, if they played like a team that didn't go to their import to score on one on one plays then they would have more assists.

Well, I did read that, you yourself said it's a summary. Around all your word salad, you're equating assist numbers to "playing as a team."

I guess the Duncan Spurs didn't play as a team.

There's such a thing as a player outmatching his defender that the primary strategy is to milk that mismatch. Now once the other team compensates, then you progress on to your other schemes. But if the team can't solve that primary strategy, then don't fix what ain't broken.

Kindly read your comments again so I don't have to insert myself and then you have to do verbal gymnastics. I see you keep editing all your replies to me, I hope you're not feeling too much pressure, I'm just genuinely curious about your mindset.

[Giannis34GOD]

Imagine SMB handled by either Baldwin, Tim cone or Toroman? They can win multiple grandslams with that kind of line up plus very good coach...