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  • Originally posted by IPC View Post

    You need talent and depth to be able to compete in both the PBA and the EASL. Depth is something MERALCO has in spades that neither TNT nor Ginebra have as of the moment.
    That's why Magnolia is best option there... They have depth too.. And they are doing well this conference...

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    • Originally posted by zairex View Post

      Lets not include Euro or other countries not belonging to Asia and concentrate with region.

      ​​​KBL do produce Asian level thats why they can compete with NZ and other countries. Japan dont even have an Asian Level center.

      I am just saying looking at B.league, having no opportunities for Centers will not bold well for them in the long run.
      I do agree lack of playing time can hurt development but I don't necessarily believe Japan's lack of an Asian big man is just because of opportunity, I think Japan's development has been different than some of the other countries, guys 6'8-9 with mobility and athleticism coming up seem to play center but also develop their perimeter skills which allows them to be more versatile forwards. Even coming up Akira Jacobs and Yuto kawashima for Japan are 6'8 center size for Asia but play more like forwards. Even from Kore​a, Yeo Jeon Seok 6'8 but more of a forward than a big. There are no local 6'8 players coming up that are like them. for Korea if I look at young centers coming up there is realistically only one that is Asian level potential and that Yungi ha.

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      • Originally posted by TheRodster21 View Post
        I do agree lack of playing time can hurt development but I don't necessarily believe Japan's lack of an Asian big man is just because of opportunity, I think Japan's development has been different than some of the other countries, guys 6'8-9 with mobility and athleticism coming up seem to play center but also develop their perimeter skills which allows them to be more versatile forwards. Even coming up Akira Jacobs and Yuto kawashima for Japan are 6'8 center size for Asia but play more like forwards. Even from Kore​a, Yeo Jeon Seok 6'8 but more of a forward than a big. There are no local 6'8 players coming up that are like them. for Korea if I look at young centers coming up there is realistically only one that is Asian level potential and that Yungi ha.
        Japan and SoKor don't have guys like AJ, June Mar, Japeth, and Kai that have a decent combination of height and talent. SoKor has Kim Jong-kyu and Ha Yungi, but that's it for them when it comes to the center position.

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        • Originally posted by IPC View Post

          Japan and SoKor don't have guys like AJ, June Mar, Japeth, and Kai that have a decent combination of height and talent. SoKor has Kim Jong-kyu and Ha Yungi, but that's it for them when it comes to the center position.
          And kim Jong-kyu is already 32

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          • Originally posted by IPC View Post

            Japan and SoKor don't have guys like AJ, June Mar, Japeth, and Kai that have a decent combination of height and talent. SoKor has Kim Jong-kyu and Ha Yungi, but that's it for them when it comes to the center position.
            The reason why Japan and Korea hard time beating China and Iran... In FIBA setting, having a skilled big man has an advantage against smaller teams... Japan w/ Watanabe lose to Iran last year's FIBA Asia cup while Korea can't beat Iran anytime they face off.... And China has Japan numbers (4-0 in last FIBA qualifying windows) and Korea.... If Kai and AJ will improve their games in next 5 years, Gilas has a chance to be the best team in Asia (sans Australia)...

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            • lol how many imports does fubon have, they have 4 world imports(2 can play), 2 foreign naturalized players (1 can play)and barefield
              To becomes Asia's Best, we need to compete against the World's Best..
              1 Big 4 small > 5 out offense.

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              • Great win for TNT, and Josh coached a good game on defense (just defense, because their offense wasn't good). Forced a lot of turnovers, and Fubon were lackadaisical.

                And this was a team without Castro and Kelly. The Hollis-Jefferson brothers helped a ton.

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                • Hope Rondae is okay and no concussion

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                  • Originally posted by reamily View Post
                    lol how many imports does fubon have, they have 4 world imports(2 can play), 2 foreign naturalized players (1 can play)and barefield
                    ​​​​​​plus the Nigerian FSA who played well last time they met in Taipei.

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                    • Originally posted by IPC View Post
                      Great win for TNT, and Josh coached a good game on defense (just defense, because their offense wasn't good). Forced a lot of turnovers, and Fubon were lackadaisical.

                      And this was a team without Castro and Kelly. The Hollis-Jefferson brothers helped a ton.
                      who needs good defense if you have that 2 rhj.. they will out condition whole taiwan team
                      To becomes Asia's Best, we need to compete against the World's Best..
                      1 Big 4 small > 5 out offense.

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                      • Originally posted by reamily View Post
                        who needs good defense if you have that 2 rhj.. they will out condition whole taiwan team
                        I literally praised their defense, man. HAHAHAHAHA.

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                        • Originally posted by IPC View Post

                          I literally praised their defense, man. HAHAHAHAHA.
                          I was wrong on that, I was pertaining who needs organized offense if all effort of rhj's is enough to dismantle fubons defense hehe
                          To becomes Asia's Best, we need to compete against the World's Best..
                          1 Big 4 small > 5 out offense.

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                          • Even without bigmen, it still worked out for TNT because they have the length.

                            The usual pattern against Fubon was this:

                            Rondae - 6'6
                            Rahlir - 6'6
                            MGR - 6'5
                            Oftana - 6'5
                            Aurin - 6'1

                            Rondae - 6'6
                            Rhalir - 6'6
                            MGR - 6'5
                            Oftana - 6'5
                            Khobuntin - 6'3
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                            ​​​​​​Rondae/Rhalir - 6'6
                            Ponferrada - 6'5
                            MGR - 6'5
                            Oftana - 6'5
                            Khobuntin - 6'3

                            Rondae/Rahlir - 6'6
                            Ponferrada - 6'5
                            MGR/Oftana - 6'5
                            Khobuntin - 6'3
                            Aurin - 6'1

                            Rondae/Rahlir - 6'6
                            MGR - 6'5
                            Oftana - 6'5
                            Khobuntin - 6'5
                            Aurin - 6'1

                            TNT rotated this way.
                            Attack
                            defend
                            Unite

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                            • It's intriguing that both Rondae & Rahir are listed as 6-foot-6 yet it looks like Rahir is taller by about 2 inches than Rondae.
                              "A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV

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                              • TNT's chances for getting playoffs in EASL is that they have to pray Anyang and Taipei will not reach 3 wins... Their only chance is to be tied with Anyang and Taipei both at 2-4 record... So far Anyang has good quotient than both TNT and Taipei...

                                Anyang ( + 29 )
                                TNT ( - 6 )
                                Taipei ( - 23 )

                                They need to pray Taipei beats Anyang at their home big time and TNT will beat Anyang big too to advance


                                Meanwhile Meralco has very big chance, Just win all games then they can advance... As of now they are 1-2 and chances are big...

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