Fiba World Cup 2023 Philippines

[Rodbi]

Marty Veloso
@marty_veloso
Daniel Theis does NOT like Red Horse beer Multiple team members from Germany complained about the beer in the Philippines #FIBAWC

It must've been not ice cold when they tried it, but to be fair, Red Horse is only good for a few, initial servings (first liter for me). Beyond that, it just messes me up.

SMB pale pilsen is the best, whether ice cold or room temperature.

[FilWelsh]

Marty Veloso
@marty_veloso
Daniel Theis does NOT like Red Horse beer Multiple team members from Germany complained about the beer in the Philippines #FIBAWC

Fair enough, German beer such as Pilsner and Becks really taste good much better than our SMB. When I went for holiday in Munich I had the one of the best drinking days of my life… Yes German beers are world’s best for me… and second probably the Czech beer such as Cerna Hora no offense to Filipino beer…

[Giannis34GOD]

For me, I’m more curious when will fiba release the latest fiba rankings… Will 1-4 result of Gilas is enough to make it atleast top 5 Asia/Oceania ranked team? It will be a bummer if china still ahead of us… they have no more Olympic stint since 2016 and with 8 year cycle rule in rankings stated that China should be lower down their rankings… Iran might still in top 30 because their 2021 Olympic stint still within 8 year cycle run… Japan might be in top 25 ranked teams for sure… the biggest loser will be Korea… they might go down further in the rankings…

[Rodbi]

For me, I’m more curious when will fiba release the latest fiba rankings… Will 1-4 result of Gilas is enough to make it atleast top 5 Asia/Oceania ranked team? It will be a bummer if china still ahead of us… they have no more Olympic stint since 2016 and with 8 year cycle rule in rankings stated that China should be lower down their rankings… Iran might still in top 30 because their 2021 Olympic stint still within 8 year cycle run… Japan might be in top 25 ranked teams for sure… the biggest loser will be Korea… they might go down further in the rankings…

I don't think we'll overtake China this year. As lackluster their NT may have been the past 7 years, Gilas just didn't do enough in the same time period iirc:

Disappointing 2017 and 2022 Asia Cups
So-so performance in the 2019 and 2023 WC qualifiers
Abysmal 2019 WC proper
Satisfying ('cause no heavy blow-out losses) yet still lacking 2023 WC finish

Results from the above key FIBA events just won't be enough to help our case.

[magic_chiongson]

for me the most disappointing part of the gilas' wc performance was not having any other offense aside from letting JC cook. they had weeks of training without clarkson but when the world cup started it's like they only started training when clarkson arrived 2 weeks before

[Rodbi]

for me the most disappointing part of the gilas' wc performance was not having any other offense aside from letting JC cook. they had weeks of training without clarkson but when the world cup started it's like they only started training when clarkson arrived 2 weeks before

We'll really need at least 3 JC-level players, or just JC then 5 more similar high-impact role/takeover players in addition to Edu and Dwight, to make a significant dent against the elite NTs every WC (and Olympics, if ever we qualify to one).

[Giannis34GOD]

I don't think we'll overtake China this year. As lackluster their NT may have been the past 7 years, Gilas just didn't do enough in the same time period iirc:

Disappointing 2017 and 2022 Asia Cups
So-so performance in the 2019 and 2023 WC qualifiers
Abysmal 2019 WC proper
Satisfying ('cause no heavy blow-out losses) yet still lacking 2023 WC finish

Results from the above key FIBA events just won't be enough to help our case.

Maybe next year, if we did great in OQT… we are only overtaking them this WC only… their Olympic stint in 2016 will be erase in 8 year cycle next year… they still better results than us in past 10 years (or after we finished 2nd in fiba asia 2013 while they are only 5th place that time)… but for sure we will surpass Korea this time… something’s wrong if they are still above us in fiba rankings despite they didn’t play qualifiers and main WC tournament plus they didn’t participate in pre OQT last month

[zuma169]

for me the most disappointing part of the gilas' wc performance was not having any other offense aside from letting JC cook. they had weeks of training without clarkson but when the world cup started it's like they only started training when clarkson arrived 2 weeks before

I am disappointed with the lack of time preparing than the WC games itself.. if you are the coach, can you come up with a sound gameplan when your main players just coming in 2 weeks before the tournament and the whole team practicing as a unit 1 week before the tournament? wala kang magagawa and it showed during the games that focal point was only JC.. shempre he is our star player and a 6th man NBA awardee and a 20pt average NBA player.. shempre sya ang focal point with that much time preparing.. and we paid dearly but were still in the game and almost won..

that is why i am disappointed with the preparation time.. sabihin mo na there are a lot of factors that happened that resulted in lack of time (Kai drama, Justin Brownlee Injury, Scottie Thompson Injury, JC coming in late) those players are major key players in the team... coach is still responsible no matter how hard the circumstances were..

all in all, there is only one thing I am very disappointed with chot reyes, and that is he shouldv'e played kiefer ravena more.. as much as we hate him in the team, he did play well and I thought he played the role of a Alapag, Tenorio.. he stabilized the team well.. aside from that, I think wala na tayo magagawa.. Abando was a slow burner that surprised us - again, that would have shown earlier if more praparation time was alloted.. our low field goal shots, wala na tayo magagawa dun.. that is part of the players confidence again that would have been improved with additional preparation time and games.. kulang na kulang talaga preparation time..

[CoJ]

for me the most disappointing part of the gilas' wc performance was not having any other offense aside from letting JC cook. they had weeks of training without clarkson but when the world cup started it's like they only started training when clarkson arrived 2 weeks before

most disappointing part, we have 7 years to prepare yet we ended up cramming

[Giannis34GOD]

USA lost in fiba World Cup is not just because they bringing lesser talent NBA caliber players… but they loss because how they play throughout the tournament… they didn’t box out properly, they didn’t advise how fiba rules is different compare to nba rules and they didn’t knew that no 3 sec defensive violation in fiba unlike in nba, they keep on switching even its not needed too much… this video explains everything how bad team USA plays throughout the tournament…

https://youtu.be/uwMj7Hs7NtA?si=QrR5eRsyby-oMUMj

[IPC]

Here's a compilation of the stats for this WC: https://hackastat.eu/en/fiba-world-cup-2023/

Interesting statlines for us:

We were 10th in DRTG at 106.3.
We allowed a true shooting percentage of 53%, good for 6th in the WC.
We allowed opponents to shoot only 32% from 3, good for 9th.
We allowed opponents to shoot 41% from the field, good for 4th.
We had the lowest AST% at 43%.
We had the 10th highest TO% at 16%.
We were 26th in 3PT% at 30%.
We were below average at offensive rebounding, grabbing only 28% of all available offensive rebounds. (ranked 21st, average 29%)
We were average at defensive rebounding, grabbing 73.7% of all available defensive rebounds. (ranked 15, average 72.9%)
We force turnovers only 12% of the time, good for 31st.

Defensive stats might have been padded by the Angola and China games, but I'll take it.

[Yessuh29]

Man, I don't know about you guys but the WC was pretty disheartening for me as a pinoy bball fan, especially that loss vs South Sudan. How tf are you losing to a country that's only like 11 years old??!? and was coming off a civil war. All this talk about changing our grassroots structure and improving our pro league in hopes of developing better players are just a tiny factor in developing players having the height is really the most important thing in producing NBA player. Example is a nation like South Sudan whom I heard doesn't even have an indoor facilities and probably doesn't have a pro league still.could produce NBA players because they are some really tall people in their country. Rant over. pinoys loving basketball is really unrequited love HAHAHAHA

[thatweirdguy]

Man, I don't know about you guys but the WC was pretty disheartening for me as a pinoy bball fan, especially that loss vs South Sudan. How tf are you losing to a country that's only like 11 years old??!? and was coming off a civil war. All this talk about changing our grassroots structure and improving our pro league in hopes of developing better players are just a tiny factor in developing players having the height is really the most important thing in producing NBA player. Example is a nation like South Sudan whom I heard doesn't even have an indoor facilities and probably doesn't have a pro league still.could produce NBA players because they are some really tall people in their country. Rant over. pinoys loving basketball is really unrequited love HAHAHAHA

Well to be fair their players are also fairly skilled and coordinated not just tall. Not Kai Sotto great though lol . Heck we have the tallest player in the tournament which didn't help us squat.

[KoolAid]

Well to be fair their players are also fairly skilled and coordinated not just tall. Not Kai Sotto great though lol . Heck we have the tallest player in the tournament which didn't help us squat.

I still believe they got recruited for their height, c'mon now how the fuck are they going to get better at basketball when that country doesn't even have the facilities, grassroots program and a pro league and probably a television exposure to the NBA? Do their citizens even know about the NBA?

[DAdmiral]

FIBA article on each countries standout players from the 2023 World Cup....
"New Zealand
Four guys stood out for the Tall Blacks, with Finn Delany and Reuben Te Rangi averaging team-highs of 16.4 points per game, and Izayah Le'afa being the defensive presence with 12.8 points and 2.2 steals per game, but Shea Ili was the man of the hour for coach Pero Cameron. The point guard put up 14.8 points and 7.6 assists per game, finishing just behind Carlik Jones and Tremont Waters in the assists-per-game category. Ili really was their best player." (Via fiba.basketball)

https://www.fiba.basketball/basketba...dc6ZKthLx0bpdm gAly5H3-UQ9vXFaEc6ZsVA