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  • Originally posted by ja.he View Post
    French fans also want their longtime coach to resign after the defeat against Latvia.
    https://www.facebook.com/10006374688...ibextid=poYJrl
    This is FIBA needs, upset galore… it looks like last year’s FIFA when low ranked teams upset high ranked teams… Germany beat Australia, DR beat Italy (although I know DR is better), Japan beat Finland and Latvia beat France… with that France loss, they are shocking out of the tourney… although they are qualified as host next year but for sure they don’t want collet to coach again next year…

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    • Originally posted by CoJ View Post

      and now france is in danger of not making it to the next rd,. buti nalang they are already qualified for the olympics
      I believe they are actually eliminated now. even if they win vs Lebanon, they wont catch Canada and Latvia.For latvia, partida wala pa si Porzingis Trans: they won even w/o Porzingis

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      • Originally posted by bballcrazy View Post

        I think Ramos is the only decent guard in gilas at this level. Has some height and size and can make 3s. Pogoy can shoot too but I think give up too much size and he doesn't have the athleticism to make it up. Kiefer too short and bad shooter, same for CJ Perez. Abando seem like he can only make dunks and easy shots (while dunks r exciting but don't seem to be able to do anything else)
        As much as I hate Pogoy, he had a good offensive game today. For whatever reason, Chot went for JC to play ballhandler but had Pogoy pick up Angola's little guy and bullied the shit out him... it's just tough luck that when him and Kiefer were together, there were just a lot of missed assignments including the dagger three when Pogoy's man was left all alone in the corner on a risky weakside double team.

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        • Originally posted by Marsh Mello View Post

          I believe they are actually eliminated now. even if they win vs Lebanon, they wont catch Canada and Latvia.For latvia, partida wala pa si Porzingis Trans: they won even w/o Porzingis
          it will be a tough 2nd round for the teams in Indonesia , Canada, Brazil , Spain and Latvia are the sure 2nd rounders here now only 2 teams will make it to Manila

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          • Originally posted by JOI2dWorld View Post

            it will be a tough 2nd round for the teams in Indonesia , Canada, Brazil , Spain and Latvia are the sure 2nd rounders here now only 2 teams will make it to Manila
            Lucky for Indo fans. They have quality games there unlike here.

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            • Canada with crazy stats today:

              71% shooting from the field
              44 assists out of 50 made field goals
              18 three pointers
              9 players in double digits (could have been 10)

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              • This is probably the last time we'll see Scottie, Pogoy, Japeth and Fajardo in major fiba competitions, if SBP wakes up and eventually sacks Chot for good, get a competent HC and program director, I hope this is a pool that they will develop. I just wanna see a successful and progressive gilas roster when I eventually reach my late 20s for the next world cup:

                Forwards:

                Jamie Malonzo
                Wil Navarro
                Justine Baltazar
                Mason Amos
                Carl Tamayo
                Kevin Quiambao
                Alex Konov
                Lebron Lopez

                Guard forwards:

                Dwight Ramos
                Calvin Oftana
                Caelum Harris
                Thirdy Ravena
                Dave Ildefonso

                Centers:

                Kai Sotto
                AJ Edu
                Geo Chiu
                Kobe Demisana

                Guards:

                Robert Bolick
                CJ Perez
                Dalph Panopio
                Rhenz Abando
                RJ Abarrientos

                NP pool:

                Jordan Clarkson(can probably give us 5 more years)
                Brownlee(we would be lucky if he can provide 2-3 years at 35)
                Kouame
                Chris Mccolough

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                • Chot's system is reliant on elite creators/facilitators yet he only has JC. Thompson and Ravena aren't elite creators. This team could've benefitted from Abarrientos and JGDL as additional creators for the team. Overall, the team is poorly constructed.

                  There are no elite shooters such as Chan, Fonacier, and David. It also severely lacks the slasher/creator types such as Tenorio and Castro.

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                  • Originally posted by paolylo View Post

                    As much as I hate Pogoy, he had a good offensive game today. For whatever reason, Chot went for JC to play ballhandler but had Pogoy pick up Angola's little guy and bullied the shit out him... it's just tough luck that when him and Kiefer were together, there were just a lot of missed assignments including the dagger three when Pogoy's man was left all alone in the corner on a risky weakside double team.
                    He did have a good offensive game. But his gambling defense lost us our chance. Even before that I saw him sagging off his man 2x in the 4th, I think the same guy. He gave up 9 pts in the 4th by sagging off his man.

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                    • Originally posted by OverratedTabBaldwin View Post
                      Chot's system is reliant on elite creators/facilitators yet he only has JC. Thompson and Ravena aren't elite creators. This team could've benefitted from Abarrientos and JGDL as additional creators for the team. Overall, the team is poorly constructed.

                      There are no elite shooters such as Chan, Fonacier, and David. It also severely lacks the slasher/creator types such as Tenorio and Castro.
                      Your name is so fkin funny. Wasn't Tab trying to create the players you're looking for back in King Abdullah Cup?

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                      • Originally posted by greenarcher View Post

                        Lucky for Indo fans. They have quality games there unlike here.
                        actually we got the short end of the stick of the allocation of countries with star power, yes we had USA but after that we didn't get any of the other countries with nba stars, France will not come, and Slovenia might not either as they have to beat Germany and/or Australia to advance in Manila

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                        • Originally posted by empyreanmaze View Post

                          Your name is so fkin funny. Wasn't Tab trying to create the players you're looking for back in King Abdullah Cup?
                          Tab probly saw the need for bigger facilitators and worked with what was available. Remember he had CJ in the pool earlier but somehow eventually begged off.

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                          • Originally posted by thatweirdguy View Post

                            You know they were doing something right even though they weren't winning yet. The wins will come you just have to be patient. And they aren't even full strength yet and doesn't have a super saiyan NP like us.
                            That's the word, "patience" -something which we Pinoy basketball fans aren't know for. Gusto kaagad natin instant results.

                            I remember during the early years of the Gilas-1 program of coach Rajko Toroman, some Pinoy fans whined a lot about how our young players usually were "minamama" ng mga mas matured na kalaban. Eh natural, our 23-year old players back then would usually could not outsmart or out "gulang" those 29-year old or 32 year-old players of opposing teams. Its as if our 23-year old players will just stagnate & will never improve. Eh kaya nga ini expose natin sa FIBA games & other international competitions yang mga batang players so as that as they age, they become more matured & smarter in the way they play.
                            "A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV

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                            • Originally posted by Rds View Post

                              Tab probly saw the need for bigger facilitators and worked with what was available. Remember he had CJ in the pool earlier but somehow eventually begged off.
                              It's ridiculous how not a single pba player ended up under Tab, almost like someone was purposely sabotaging the guy. That's why people were so happy to see him succeed with Dwight, Baltazar and Tamayo and still forging work in progress players like Thirdy, Ildefonso and Suerte

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                              • Originally posted by empyreanmaze View Post

                                It's ridiculous how not a single pba player ended up under Tab, almost like someone was purposely sabotaging the guy. That's why people were so happy to see him succeed with Dwight, Baltazar and Tamayo and still forging work in progress players like Thirdy, Ildefonso and Suerte
                                And now here we are, the end game of that sabotage.

                                In the end, he's not that one humiliated in front of the homecrowd.

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