Fiba World Cup 2023 Philippines

[greenarcher]

It's almost like greenarcher created this thread to spread his negativity about Gilas being the best in Asia for an Olympic spot. Hehe. Should have named this "greenarcher cheering other Asian countries" lol. You'll probably root for China hard later man. Best of luck

Whatever floats your boat.

[JOI2dWorld]

I don't think so... The France vs Canada was attended by 12,091 fans... Highest outside Group A games... Italy vs Angola was attended by 22k fans... The Indonesia Arena capacity is 16k... It was almost full to the rafters.... The lowest was Australia vs Finland that has only 5,600 fans (Okinawa Arena has only 10k capacity).... As expected, Gilas vs DR is highest w/ 38,211 fans

are you stupid about italy vs angola attended by 22k fans? those fans came to see gilas vs dominican , put them in a game day and venue not with gilas and see whether if they can make even 5000, you are really stating things that only an idiot will be proud of

[impracticaljokers2000]

are you stupid about italy vs angola attended by 22k fans? those fans came to see gilas vs dominican , put them in a game day and venue not with gilas and see whether if they can make even 5000, you are really stating things that only an idiot will be proud of

Chill bro

[zairex]

Korea recently had a 1-1 game with Japan in 2 tuneups, they're getting left behind I assume also because they struggle to catch up to modern basketball, they've never had a foreign coach but idk what goes on behind their scene. If even China is willing to hire their current Serbian coach and Kyle Anderson, perhaps it's time to consider that perhaps the standards of local coaches and players all over Asia are decaying because of insularity instead of fetishizing it as pinoy-brand basketball, if you want pinoy-brand basketball, just invent completely new rules to the game like Dagestani wrestling-basketball instead of trying to matchup to other countries under FIBA rules and doing it half-ass.

Japan hire foreign players and coaches. They have done NP long before we did. They actually implement euro plays like Korea. Its just that our physical disadvantages is huge to be compensated by complex plays.

[greenarcher]

Neto down with an injury in a useless game.

Hadadi the Taulava of Iran.

[empyreanmaze]

I agree, but there are alot more screens and movement they do and they are tall and athletic to still shoot over or beat their defender. Which we don't have alot of those

We did, they just aren't gonna be fresh out of the oven. Baltazar, Tamayo and Navarro, even Javi were getting molded to be able to adapt to those kind of plays especially in King Abdullah Cup, Balti is the more successful one. Tamayo too slow and Navarro was an offensive liability, Balti is balanced. Balti was a major improvement from Troy Rosario under Tab's system, these 2 players will be actual fair comparisons to make, one is Chot-minded, the other is Tab, they both have enough sample sizes to compare in gilas along with stats and match-ups.

[hmbopbaduwap]

https://www.spin.ph/basketball/fiba/...ome_featured_1


'Point guard problem' a cause of concern?


The lack of a 'true point guard' was among key areas of contention by some Gilas fans anew.

Baldwin, however, refuses to acknowledge the outdated narrative of 'positional basketball' in the modern game.

"I think people need to stop talking about positional basketball. We have ‘ball carriers’ and this is probably the term people need to start using," Baldwin asserted.


"Scottie Thompson’s a ball carrier. Kiefer (Ravena) is certainly an excellent ball carrier. He played extremely well in the first half last night. Dwight Ramos is a confident ball carrier. Of course, Jordan is a good ball carrier, so we don’t have problems there."

And in terms of Gilas' attacking style of play as embodied by Clarkson, turnovers prove to be an inevitable risk tagged with the in-game approach of Chot Reyes' wards.

"I think the 19 turnovers, and Jordan had 8 of those, were really a byproduct of the style of play where we use an attacking style of play. We’re attacking the rim all the time and trying to collapse defenses and kick out to shooters," Baldwin said.

"We had a little bit of limited success doing that with Roger (Pogoy) and Scottie hitting a couple of threes, but that is the modern style of play for a lot of teams. No matter how you create that penetration, whether it’s isolation or ball screens, that’s what people are doing," he added.

In closing, Baldwin stood firm on how Gilas' alleged point guard dilemma is a non-existent problem considering how the game has evolved at the international level.

"Gilas had a guy that could create, get in the paint, and score in Jordan Clarkson but anytime you have that style of play, you’re gonna have to live with a few more turnovers. But we don’t have a ‘point guard problem,'" Baldwin reiterated.


"No one in international basketball is using all-out pressing defenses to cause turnovers, so you have to have guys that can get the ball more and initiate your offense."

[empyreanmaze]

Japan hire foreign players and coaches. They have done NP long before we did. They actually implement euro plays like Korea. Its just that our physical disadvantages is huge to be compensated by complex plays.

Pure local pinoys like Abando, Kiefer, Japeth, Fajardo, Pogoy and more recently Baltazar, Tamayo and Suerte not mixed with more athletic races would be fair comparisons to local Japanese players without Hachimura or any of their recent mixed-race youngsters. I agree even locals vs locals ethnic-based basketball, we would edge them, Korea on the other hand would be an interesting match-up if we use that criteria. That makes comparing systems unbalanced however, if you have objectively more talented players then you won't have to rely too much on plays which have high probabilities of breaking down. That makes the 20 point defeat of gilas vs Japan in the recent Asia cup all the more embarassing honestly, just absolutely outcoached and outmaneuvered.

[empyreanmaze]

Japan hire foreign players and coaches. They have done NP long before we did. They actually implement euro plays like Korea. Its just that our physical disadvantages is huge to be compensated by complex plays.

Speaking of which, you're quick to bring up Japan losing to Germany, a top 10 team with 'euro plays' but never brought up the 2022 Asia Cup where they decimated Chot-led gilas by 21 points using the same system and players, why? 21 points is dictionary blowout territory, worse than their recent 18 point lost to Germany, I'm curious how you would try to rationalize this. You're not very charitable with Tab missing total PBA support, AJ's injury being uncertain at the time and missing Dwight Ramos in the OQT games so idw to hear excuses about Chot being undermanned in that game lmao, you lost that high ground.

[Giannis34GOD]

are you stupid about italy vs angola attended by 22k fans? those fans came to see gilas vs dominican , put them in a game day and venue not with gilas and see whether if they can make even 5000, you are really stating things that only an idiot will be proud of

That’s record by FIBA… as if they are lying to us… are you? Check their website and even the other sites…

[Giannis34GOD]

Chill bro

Why on a hell they thinking I’m lying? That is was posted by FIBA… if they have thoughts then tell them… I’m tired of those idiots…

[Giannis34GOD]

Greece gave us a big scare. Good thing they decided to play much better in the 4th...

RHJ such a good naturalized player. Jordan might just beat Mexico, Egypt and New Zealand on a good day.

DAdmiral will disagree with you bro… he doesn’t want his NZL to lose against an Asian team.. because it means his feelings will be hurt… hehehehehhehehe

[greenarcher]

Brazil just playing with beautiful ball movement. They make it look so easy and effortless.

[Rds]

Speaking of which, you're quick to bring up Japan losing to Germany, a top 10 team with 'euro plays' but never brought up the 2022 Asia Cup where they decimated Chot-led gilas by 21 points using the same system and players, why? 21 points is dictionary blowout territory, worse than their recent 18 point lost to Germany, I'm curious how you would try to rationalize this. You're not very charitable with Tab missing total PBA support, AJ's injury being uncertain at the time and missing Dwight Ramos in the OQT games so idw to hear excuses about Chot being undermanned in that game lmao, you lost that high ground.

That lost was without Watanabe for the 2nd half I think. Chot doubled down on small ball and offense, putting SJ and Kiefer, and Carl and Quiquiam benching Erram. The game got away with that lineup. Quiquiam was hurting guys instead of playing. Somebody also hit JPs ace SG in the solar plexus, sidelining for a few minutes.

[JOI2dWorld]

Why on a hell they thinking I’m lying? That is was posted by FIBA… if they have thoughts then tell them… I’m tired of those idiots…

like my question do those people come to see italy vs angola or gilas vs dominican? just a simple logic that your pea-sized brain cannot comprehend