Fiba World Cup 2023 Philippines

[ARMIR]

Geo Chiu looks serviceable and he's now 6'10, plus Michael Philipps. A bigmen core of Kai,AJ,Chiu & Philipps should be good enough for the next 15 years. 3s & 4s like Amos,Tamayo,Ballungay,Malonzo,Lopez & Harris look good on paper.
And for our backcourt Ramos,Koon,Winston,Bayla,Heading & my suggestion for the next naturalized Sedrick Barefield should be Okay.

Don't forget AK too,with AJ,KAi tandem that would a good frontline two 6'11 and a 7'2 that's Euro size,I wouldn't mind them sliding AJ to 3 once in awhile.Geo should be good enough as a backup on SEA GAMES level,and some windows qualifier.

[ja.he]

I really don't get our obsession to have a size at par with Europeans. Even if our players are as tall as Europeans, if the skill level and laterals are not good, then being tall has no use at all. Just superficial.

For me, I would rather look like a Mexican or a DR team because that will be more realistic than be like Spain or Serbia.

[ja.he]

I will stand with my 12:

C - Edu/Aguilar/Fajardo
F - Malonzo/Oftana
F - Ramos/Parks
G - Perez/Pogoy/Abando
G - Clarkson/Newsome

I will put emphasis on skills, length and athleticism over height alone.

[sroth3839]

I really don't get our obsession to have a size at par with Europeans. Even if our players are as tall as Europeans, if the skill level and laterals are not good, then being tall has no use at all. Just superficial.

For me, I would rather look like a Mexican or a DR team because that will be more realistic than be like Spain or Serbia.

Size matters the most at the 4-5 positions, so we can’t afford to be undersized in those positions.

[ja.he]

Size matters the most at the 4-5 positions, so we can’t afford to be undersized in those positions.

Skill, mobility and athleticism matter more. These three can override size easily.

For a 5, I prefer an AJ Edu or Japeth-type of bigman.

For a 4, I prefer a Kelly Williams, Jamie Malonzo-type of forward.

For me, our game against the Dominican Republic is an eye opener. Size is not everything in basketball. Without superior skills and athleticism, size means nothing but a big/tall body.

For me, AJ and Japeth have an ok size for a 5. Japeth is 6'9 while AJ is 6'10. Malonzo, though undersized like Pingris, has a high motor and length which I find it to be more valuable than being just tall.

[greenarcher]

Spain destroyed Slovenia 99-79

[sroth3839]

Skill, mobility and athleticism matter more. These three can override size easily.

For a 5, I prefer an AJ Edu or Japeth-type of bigman.

For a 4, I prefer a Kelly Williams, Jamie Malonzo-type of forward.

For me, our game against the Dominican Republic is an eye opener. Size is not everything in basketball. Without superior skills and athleticism, size means nothing but a big/tall body.

For me, AJ and Japeth have an ok size for a 5. Japeth is 6'9 while AJ is 6'10. Malonzo, though undersized like Pingris, has a high motor and length which I find it to be more valuable than being just tall.

6’9-6’10 is what I meant by size in those positions.

6’7-6’8 are okay sizes depending on skill and mobility.

I’m honestly not a fan of unicorn-type of players like Porzingis and Wemby.

They are amazing players but too one of a kind. A system shouldn’t rely on their presence.

[ccharmed]

Pinoys will never, ever stop with the fascination for bulinggit players. They do remind us of childhood barangay playgrounds, where a lot of ballers were even smaller than referees.

However, i never saw many instances when those big and tough spanish or serbian players got their asses handed to them. Check out that spain vs slovenia video and see both the physical and mental toughness of the spanish team in action.

Pinoy coaches are unfortunately always willing to send underskilled and undersized players in truly quixotic expectations. Almost always too, the smallest players tend to be the most enthusiastic in volunteering their services.

There is also this often hidden fact in posts: most who like small players are themselves undersized for the positions they played in. A kiefer ravena is certainly okay with pba wants and expectations. But a clarkson is what we need for a world class guard. Or even that young man amos who is clearly comfortable with being a 6'8 combo guard, and certainly has more contribution potential to the nt, like 6'4 guard dwight ramos, than a kiefer ravena based on facts. Amos will probably be the best ever scoring guard for our nt over the next ten years. Nobody is saying kiefer is a bad player; it is just what the nt needs are players with focus, abilities and size all at the same time.

Indeed, if we use a lot of big and talented perimeter younger players like amos at sf or sg, and capable and reliable younger bigs like kai and aj, our nt will be top 20 in world play.

For the first time in a long while, we have an nt with enough size, skills and speed to compete. I am quite sure that the next sets of national team players will be even bigger, more athletic and capable than the barrocas and pingrises that a lot of forumers like. Again, nothing wrong with these undersized players, who definitely can compete at asian level. But nobody saw them perform well many times -- if ever -- against top ten world fiba teams.

Btw, i havent really seen a fiba champion team with relatively small guards performing well without awesome centers and power forwards as their partners.

[carmelo7]

Don't forget AK too,with AJ,KAi tandem that would a good frontline two 6'11 and a 7'2 that's Euro size,I wouldn't mind them sliding AJ to 3 once in awhile.Geo should be good enough as a backup on SEA GAMES level,and some windows qualifier.

I excluded Ange because he's taking the NP slot kaya id rather have a strong/big guard in Stephen Holt or Sedrick Barefield But if there will be better candidates like a Clarkson sure

[ARMIR]

I excluded Ange because he's taking the NP slot kaya id rather have a strong/big guard in Stephen Holt or Sedrick Barefield But if there will be better candidates like a Clarkson sure

AK is a NP,as needed like in Asian Games where JC won't be in,I rather have a big lineup to match the Chinese and steam roll Korea.Hopefully AK will stay long enough to get an exeption someday,he seems to like living in PI.I hope he also gets offer overseas to keep busy and to play against bigger players.

[CoJ]

Chip Engelland (former NCC player, Spurs assistant coach) part of team USA coaching staff as the shooting coach. I also remember USAB having a dribbling coach as well. Meanwhile, Gilas would rather pursue the MRI sidequest.

has SBP ever invested in a skills related coach for all
iterations of Gilas?

[Giannis34GOD]

Point is, media doesn’t like teams with less NBA players because it doesn’t get clicks.

As a Liga ACB fan, go Bar

Yeah… some nba biases towards against Spain… I hope Spain again prove them wrong… look how they defeat Slovenia yesterday… they defeat them convincingly… Spain vs USA on Sunday tune up game will be not just a regular tune up game that we know.. both have to prove something… should be fun to watch between top 2 ranked fiba teams…

[Giannis34GOD]

Spain destroyed Slovenia 99-79

Slovenia is already a strong team.. but Spain still a class of their own… their chemistry already a top class and hard to defeat… it seems Canada might be the one who will be ousted again since Spain and France already established teams that chemistry already there… same as Slovenia since australia and Germany might make it to the top 8…

[Giannis34GOD]

Spain is the top fiba world ranking, and most consistent eurobasket top finishing team. It plays excellent basic spartan basketball. It obviously doesnt care who the personalities are on the other side of the floor. It takes an all-nba elite stars team to handle them well.

if the top pba players even come near the focus, abilities and size of the top 24 spanish players, we wouldnt be worrying about who will get selected in the final 12.

Spain is one of the very few teams which doesnt even need nba players to finish very consistently near the top. A us team without 6 nba all stars will be kicked around by other top ten teams.

Does the phrase "consistently good" go well together with a coachot team? Why, all his selections always come under public suspicion for lack of world-class focus, abilities and size.

Is there anything inferior in this hereunder spanish pool?

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Spain, France and USA will be top 4 teams here in this tournament.. sorry for Australia.. if they somehow bracket in gilas group or between A to D then they easily make it to the semis… if you look at the bracket, only 2 between Spain, France, Slovenia, Germany, Australia and Canada will make it in groups E to H to the semis… while in the upper group, it seems USA will be easily make it since the upper group are weak, Serbia missing top players, same as Greece and Lithuania… don’t be surprise if one of Montenegro, Dominican Republic or Italy will make it easily in the semis… unexpectedly unbalanced group in between brackets.. even Finland and Latvia can beat either Italy , DR or Montenegro if they both grouped there…

[Bonifacio]

Can't help but compare.

Ateneo beat the University of Sydney by a wide margin. The University of Sydney is the current champion of the Australian University Basket League with no losses.

Gilas, on the other hand, barely won against the youth team from Ukraine, Lithuania, and Estonia.

Is the Australian University Basketball League that bad?

The game between Gilas and Ateneo was done closed doors. I wonder if Ateneo didn't want to embarrass Gilas and allowed them to win.