Fiba World Cup 2023 Philippines

[ja.he]

Mexico played an exhibition game against Colombia today.

Here is the Mexican team roster for that match:

C Josh Ibarra - 6'11 (28)
C Israel Gutierrez - 6'9 (30)
PF Gael Bonilla - 6'7 (20)
PF Jonatan Machado - 6'7 (29)
PF Fabian Jaimes - 6'6 (30)
G Juan Reyna - 6'3 (21)
PG Jorge Gutierrez - 6'3 (34)
SG Moises Andriassi - 6'2 (23)
G Orlando Mendez - 6'0 (37)
G Paul Stoll - 5'11 (37)
G Ivan Montano - 5'11 (24)
G Jonathan Machado - 5'10 (35)

The team played two bigs, three guards set-up the whole game. Looks like their guards are also pesky.

They look small when I watched the game because they are really small. Haha

[reamily]

Ask dominican reps theyre battle tested in july already

[KoolAid]

Mexico played an exhibition game against Colombia today.

Here is the Mexican team roster for that match:

C Josh Ibarra - 6'11 (28)
C Israel Gutierrez - 6'9 (30)
PF Gael Bonilla - 6'7 (20)
PF Jonatan Machado - 6'7 (29)
PF Fabian Jaimes - 6'6 (30)
G Juan Reyna - 6'3 (21)
PG Jorge Gutierrez - 6'3 (34)
SG Moises Andriassi - 6'2 (23)
G Orlando Mendez - 6'0 (37)
G Paul Stoll - 5'11 (37)
G Ivan Montano - 5'11 (24)
G Jonathan Machado - 5'10 (35)

The team played two bigs, three guards set-up the whole game. Looks like their guards are also pesky.

They look small when I watched the game because they are really small. Haha

Player to watch for Mexico si Paul Stoll (LA Tenorio look alike, played in Europe) and Jorge Gutierrez (former NBA player).

[CoJ]

and Jokic is out

https://tiebreakertimes.com.ph/tbt/reports-nikola-jokic-out-for-serbia-in-world-cup/277260?mibextid=Zxz2cZ

[B L A C K S U N]

https://sports.inquirer.net/520330/tim-cone-no-one-in-europe-camp-could-stop-june-mar-fajardo?utm_term=Autofeed&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwAR2Pj7zVefON8ey1ndn0xq8DbtO6zRw3Kv9auJrxlOv7YmjKSOYaaz1sams#Echobox=1690060459

Junemar NBA summer league stint when?

[Hoax]

Serbia will be without most of their stars. Looks like Canada, Spain, France, and Australia will be favorites to battle it out for podium finish. I also like the chances of USA, but I’m not too sure how they would perform against more experienced squads. But their defense, youth, and grit would probably take them far.

[DAdmiral]

given the lost prestige of WC (prioritizing Olympics) , the huge cost , Philippines limited resources in hindsight to me it would have been wiser for the Philippines not to bid for hosting , and essentially do what the state of Victoria did and withdraw hosting ( commonwealth games) . It's about strategic investment on things with long term value. if they contributed just a fraction of cost to host on development and grassroots that would be money better spent

[Palermo500]

given the lost prestige of WC (prioritizing Olympics) , the huge cost , Philippines limited resources in hindsight to me it would have been wiser for the Philippines not to bid for hosting , and essentially do what the state of Victoria did and withdraw hosting ( commonwealth games) . It's about strategic investment on things with long term value. if they contributed just a fraction of cost to host on development and grassroots that would be money better spent

Dude is any big star going to play. Maybe Luka but they might be in Japan or Indonesia. Giannis might play too but IDK.

Too stars for this tournament is Shai, Murray, Edwards, Haliburton, Jackson Jr, and maybe KAT if he plays for the DR.

Could be better but it is what it is.

[Giannis34GOD]

Dude is any big star going to play. Maybe Luka but they might be in Japan or Indonesia. Giannis might play too but IDK.

Too stars for this tournament is Shai, Murray, Edwards, Haliburton, Jackson Jr, and maybe KAT if he plays for the DR.

Could be better but it is what it is.

Giannis will play if his healing process will be OK for next few days.... w/ Lithuania and Serbia's stars will not play, chances for Greece to be in semis are high... Giannis still haven't Olympic stint in his career, It could be his chance to make it to the Olympics... Other European teams such as Germany, Spain, Slovenia and France are in other bracket and only they will face them until semis... the top 2 European teams will go to Olympics from European zone...KP and Markannen too are big stars since they are named NBA all stars in the past edition...

[Giannis34GOD]

given the lost prestige of WC (prioritizing Olympics) , the huge cost , Philippines limited resources in hindsight to me it would have been wiser for the Philippines not to bid for hosting , and essentially do what the state of Victoria did and withdraw hosting ( commonwealth games) . It's about strategic investment on things with long term value. if they contributed just a fraction of cost to host on development and grassroots that would be money better spent

Jokic's declined is not about the host capability to host... The reason is that coach Pesic is too stubborn (same as coach Chot) for benching Jokic mostly of 4th qtr in the last part of round of 16 game vs Italy... More Serbian big names also declined to play this year because they don't like Pesic as a coach.... Don't spread any fake speculations because Philippines and co host Japan and Indonesia are not capable to host... More drama also in Serbia's camp, even one of big names in Serbia such as Kalinic says he will not play for Serbia if Pesic still the coach for them... Even he (Pesic) is responsible for snubbing Serbian great PG Milos Teodosic and he didn't play for Serbia since Nov.2021 qualifiers... Even Serbian fans doesn't like Pesic as coach and wanted him to resign his post since the disappointing round of 16 exit last year...

https://direktno.rs/sport/kosarka/462995/pesic-kalinic-jokic-bogdanovic-reprezentacija-micic.html

[DAdmiral]

People missing the point , it's about value for money investment, and I'm not referring to Japan or the Indonesia, who have made strategic moves .

1st no one even knows what even are the strategic objectives and targets by hosting (Philippines), what are they ? Never Been released by SBP , all we know is the overblown cost over$ 1 billion
so again what are the measurable targets to say it was a good decision to host ? Is it 10 k visitors ? Is it 100k spectators, what ? All those numbers objectivly are insufficient to justify the investment cost.

This is not speculation at all, when therr are no tangible numbers published..
honestly the Philippines will be lucky to attract 10k visitors as a result of WC. (That's so small)
the average crowd size ( exluding Philippine arena) is not expected to be more than 8k, this is bad.

Looks like it's a failure.

do note Philippines will not be attracting NBA fans, ( these fans would just go to an NBA game instead) , the profile of the visitors will be hard core national team fans , which is really small in number . this is not like Football, where as an example Filipinos will follow Filipinas women's team , simply cause they are filipinos , ( they don't even know the names of the players)

[Palermo500]

People missing the point , it's about value for money investment, and I'm not referring to Japan or the Indonesia, who have made strategic moves .

1st no one even knows what even are the strategic objectives and targets by hosting (Philippines), what are they ? Never Been released by SBP , all we know is the overblown cost over$ 1 billion
so again what are the measurable targets to say it was a good decision to host ? Is it 10 k visitors ? Is it 100k spectators, what ? All those numbers objectivly are insufficient to justify the investment cost.

This is not speculation at all, when therr are no tangible numbers published..
honestly the Philippines will be lucky to attract 10k visitors as a result of WC. (That's so small)
the average crowd size ( exluding Philippine arena) is not expected to be more than 8k, this is bad.

Looks like it's a failure.

do note Philippines will not be attracting NBA fans, ( these fans would just go to an NBA game instead) , the profile of the visitors will be hard core national team fans , which is really small in number . this is not like Football, where as an example Filipinos will follow Filipinas women's team , simply cause they are filipinos , ( they don't even know the names of the players)

That’s kind of surprising statement most Filipinos care about Kai Sotto supposedly being racially discriminated by the Magic then the girls football team making history.

I do wish the girls team had more full blood Filipinas though and there is more support even if this World Cup is the women’s and not the men’s and that most of the team is still half pinays.

HONESTLY I watched the game and the Filipinos who watched weren’t too bad even if the stands weren’t that full.

when the girls almost scored a goal that was disallowed the crowd went nuts.

[DAdmiral]

I think there will be more overseas balikbayans who went to the Spain world cup 2014 (1st time Gilas) as compared to this year (2023)

[CoJ]

People missing the point , it's about value for money investment, and I'm not referring to Japan or the Indonesia, who have made strategic moves .

1st no one even knows what even are the strategic objectives and targets by hosting (Philippines), what are they ? Never Been released by SBP , all we know is the overblown cost over$ 1 billion
so again what are the measurable targets to say it was a good decision to host ? Is it 10 k visitors ? Is it 100k spectators, what ? All those numbers objectivly are insufficient to justify the investment cost.

This is not speculation at all, when therr are no tangible numbers published..
honestly the Philippines will be lucky to attract 10k visitors as a result of WC. (That's so small)
the average crowd size ( exluding Philippine arena) is not expected to be more than 8k, this is bad.

Looks like it's a failure.

do note Philippines will not be attracting NBA fans, ( these fans would just go to an NBA game instead) , the profile of the visitors will be hard core national team fans , which is really small in number . this is not like Football, where as an example Filipinos will follow Filipinas women's team , simply cause they are filipinos , ( they don't even know the names of the players)

as i’ve said years ago in ibn, hosting events of this magnitude are white elephants with minimal to negative ROI, luckily most of the funds used were private funds from MPIC and SMC and only minimal contribution from the national government. Feels like SBP and the organizers had no clear business plan and is running the world cup like how the pba is, ego gratification/for the love of basketball.

sbp probably banking on nba stars to draw in local and intl crowds but they didnt learn from that aussie-gilas game (only 22k paying fans) the rockets va pacers 2014 game (with prime harden vs prime paul george). Yes pinoys are bball addicts but majority of those bball fanatics dont have disposable income.

2002 world cup in Indiana vibes again,


heck this event (similar to the 2019 SEA Games) is a anti thesis of prudent spending.

[DAdmiral]

And to think the SBP actually has almost no budget for the youth team or grassroots, the budget of the smallest spending PBA team would be significantly more multiple times as compared to the budget of batang gilas. so to say the stakeholders of Philippine basketball have money to spend for the world cup, is downright irresponsible. It's like spending on a big party for a child in the thousands yet not have enough money to spend on their education development