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Originally posted by Giannis34GOD View Post
I don't think so... Especially for non - US players, As long the player/s are willing, healthy and basketball federations overseas can pay insurance fees, They can lend their players for their respective national teams... The mindset of Americans in terms of international basketball is different than International players... International players are always willing to play anytime for their national teams, whether it's FIBA or Olympics, While Americans are not passionate playing for USA basketball even for Olympics... Example Kawhi Leonard, he's not yet played in any international competitions, whether it's FIBA or Olympics, same for Trae Young, Zion and Morant... Americans only care about money, fame and brands... That's all... The same is not for International players, They were born to represent their countries and they have pride for it... That's why i see the end of USA domination of basketball.. After LBJ, Steph or KD (If they all retired), No more next in line USA players can take over as "Captain America" for them... Actually, i want this, The International players will take over the basketball scene, basketball popularity as whole will explode since basketball superstars today are more international... Everyone will be winner here...
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Originally posted by ARMIR View Post
This past season,players and owners got called out in all sports media,by not announcing so called injured players are not playing and the paying public is sometimes unaware and they felt like they were cheated.Some players prolonged their injury status to make a run on the plyayoffs instead.NBA prioritize the American paying public and it really hits their pride that they just can't go over the top against the NFL and MLB.I'm guessing that in the future WC it will be back to majority Gleague and College stars and a couple of NBA young stars.We will also see the other countries with multiple NBA players probably will have only 1 player to play.But again as been said in this forum international basketball is too popular nowadays so they might not need the NBA players at all,USA really doesn't need to win anymoe titles and someone will say to make it a fair game less seasoned NBA players.
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Originally posted by JOI2dWorld View Postsaw a post of China's roster in FIBA's FB account so no Kyle Anderson yet or any other naturalized player, while Arakji was injured and will be out for 1 month
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Originally posted by CoJ View Post
on paper, team owners cant prohibit players from suiting up for their respective NTeams as per agreement of the NBA with FIBA. And to be fair, Marc Cuban, who is perhaps the most critical of FIBA/Olympic participation of NBA players, couldn't prevent his players, from Dirk to Luka, from participating in FIBA tourneys.
but yeah, internally, owners can incentivize the non participation of players in FIBA tourneys
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Originally posted by Giannis34GOD View Post
Americans are like this... But not for International players... Check at Wembayanma, He will skip Summer League but likely to play FIBA WC... Spurs can easily say no for Wemby but Spurs knows that France needed him too... Especially that he's new to the seniors team that they will use FIBA WC as their preparation for Paris aOlympics as host next year.... France badly needed Wemby to be familiar early with Collet's system.... Dallas allows Luka to join even they can say NO to him... This is only mindset of American players... they don't like to represent their countries, even at Olympics...
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Originally posted by FilWelsh View Post
I think Wemby will skip and beg-off from WC. He need to sort out first his NBA contract. Besides WC is just secondary to him. His ultimate goal internationally is the 2024 Paris Olympics.
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Originally posted by Giannis34GOD View Post
Americans are like this... But not for International players... Check at Wembayanma, He will skip Summer League but likely to play FIBA WC... Spurs can easily say no for Wemby but Spurs knows that France needed him too... Especially that he's new to the seniors team that they will use FIBA WC as their preparation for Paris Olympics as host next year.... France badly needed Wemby to be familiar early with Collet's system.... Dallas allows Luka to join even they can say NO to him... This is only mindset of American players... they don't like to represent their countries, even at Olympics...
That's all good and done,until these players gets injured or claim tired legs so,there will be reports of non serious injuries,and thus the player only play half of the regular season,then make a run for the playoffs.I like the idea of less NBA players,the more the USA is weaker for playing fair for the rest of the world the better.Better still the Euros will field only 1 NBA player and let's put it to the test if international basketball have evolved far enough in popularity,that the need for NBA players to prop it up is no more.With less NBA players,teams like Australia will be likely on the top 3 all the time and a couple of Asian teams will finally be consistently on the top 10.
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Originally posted by Giannis34GOD View Post
But you have to remember that the reason why NBA is now a global thing is because of 1992 Dream team... NBA will not be a popular today if not for 1992 Olympic stint.. After that, International players increasing every year because they were inspired by 1992 squad.... They have to thank FIBA to push professional players to participate in FIBA / Olympic tournaments, If not for FIBA push in 1990, The NBA today is still American thing and might be not as big thing as today....NBA and FIBA has one goal, Their goal is to be Basketball will become a no.1 sport in the world.. And the only thing to do is that they have to globalize basketball by increasing interest in international tourneys... NBA alone can't do that... From bankrupt FIBA year in 2002, To a global international thing in 2019 that has 1.5 billion views last FIBA WC... 100 MILLION less than the 2nd watch World Cup ICC Cricket that has 1.6 billion views.... After Football, It was basketball who has a global reach and followers in every continent... Most of the countries on earth putting basketball as their 2nd sport after football.. So the followers are already there... If FIBA and NBA wants to reach that goal, They have to communicate each other... This is also business afterall... If International tourneys in basketball will have that big reach as football version, Money will come and popularity of the sport will rise after that....
This is why the NBA felt that,they're not needed anymore since,everyone claims that FIBA Basketball is on top,they've doen their job of what they were asked to do since 1992.Besides the American's belief of fair in sports,they don't have to win by 30-60 pts,that's just to them is bad form.The solution is simple less seasoned and popular NBA players,let the other countries shine and with less NBA players in all other global teams the better,teams like Australia will be always in the top 3 or 5 and more than likely a couple of Asian teams in the top 10.It will be also beneficial for the NBA to have a healthy player that can grind for the whole season to satisfy the paying fans that shows up in the NBA arena.
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Originally posted by Giannis34GOD View Post
But you have to remember that the reason why NBA is now a global thing is because of 1992 Dream team... NBA will not be a popular today if not for 1992 Olympic stint.. After that, International players increasing every year because they were inspired by 1992 squad.... They have to thank FIBA to push professional players to participate in FIBA / Olympic tournaments, If not for FIBA push in 1990, The NBA today is still American thing and might be not as big thing as today
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Originally posted by magic_chiongson View Post
lol this is not true, the dream team was the biggest draw in barcelona, fans and even other athletes were mobbing them. lakers/magic vs bird/celtics in the 80s & jordan in the 90s made it into a popular global sport, and yao ming's arrival made it even more popular in china/asia. the nba has always been bigger than fiba, especially now more than ever
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Originally posted by magic_chiongson View Post
lol this is not true, the dream team was the biggest draw in barcelona, fans and even other athletes were mobbing them. lakers/magic vs bird/celtics in the 80s & jordan in the 90s made it into a popular global sport, and yao ming's arrival made it even more popular in china/asia. the nba has always been bigger than fiba, especially now more than ever
This is correct,and its now time for the NBA to wean themselves out of FIBA a little bit,no need to send a team that would just embarass the other teams to losing in international ball by 30+ points.This past season lots of players in their roster barely played half of the season,USA should revert back to to the spirit of semi amateurism in international ball,send at least 4 standout college players and more Gleague dominant players with a few young NBA players to support.
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