Fiba World Cup 2023 Philippines

[CoJ]

honestly dont know the answer on this one. i understand the highest placed Asian team will get an outright Olympic berth after the WC. and separately there is an Olympic qualifier(to be playeed August 12-20). does that mean all the rest of the Asian teams in WC (non top placing) has no chance to fight for an Olympic spot?

why I asked this is, if we do need to go through a qualifier, and rumors are SBP will hand over management to a new org this year, will the NEW SBP have time to build a new team? if we reuse the same team going to WC with minor tweaks, are majority of those players available? of course, if we dont qualify to fight for a spot, this question is moot.

I think they would still have a chance to fight for the olympic slot similar to how Gilas was able to participate in the OQT as a replacement for NZ. the next 3 Asian finishers qualifies to the OQT.

links:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_FIBA_Men%27s_Olympic_Qualifying_Tournaments

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_FIBA_Men%27s_Pre-Qualifying_Olympic_Qualifying_Tournaments

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basketball_at_the_2024_Summer_Olympics_%E2%80%93_Men%27s_qualification

https://stillmed.olympics.com/media/Documents/Olympic-Games/Paris-2024/Paris2024-QS-FIBA-Basketball.pdf

[Silent Killer]

honestly dont know the answer on this one. i understand the highest placed Asian team will get an outright Olympic berth after the WC. and separately there is an Olympic qualifier(to be playeed August 12-20). does that mean all the rest of the Asian teams in WC (non top placing) has no chance to fight for an Olympic spot?

why I asked this is, if we do need to go through a qualifier, and rumors are SBP will hand over management to a new org this year, will the NEW SBP have time to build a new team? if we reuse the same team going to WC with minor tweaks, are majority of those players available? of course, if we dont qualify to fight for a spot, this question is moot.

i think the event on august is pre OQT.. winners will go to proper OQT next year

[C2Hamm]

thanks COJ and SK

so the "new" management to handle SBP would have some time to organise a new team\s for these qualifiers. good to know although im not hoping much based of whats been happening for the last few years.

[Giannis34GOD]

i think the event on august is pre OQT.. winners will go to proper OQT next year

Also note: This Pre - OQT is just only teams who are not qualified for this year's WC... So the likes of Argentina, Turkey, Nigeria, Croatia, etc... are the teams who will play there... Teams who qualified for WC are not required to play there... Top 19 outside of 7 teams who will directly qualified to the Olympics as best finishers in their continental zone rank in FIBA WC are automatically qualified to play OQT next year....

[Giannis34GOD]

According to Quinito Henson, This is PHL's set of tune up games before WC:

Euro trip:

Finland
Latvia
Estonia
Lithuania U21

China trip:

Iran
Lebanon
Senegal

And also a tune up game vs Puerto Rico before the WC SETS...

https://www.philstar.com/sports/2023/06/05/2271480/gilas-sets-friendlies

Also disappointing that they scrap a possible tune up game vs Greece, Although i understand since they are not available on Aug. 23, since they want to recover for that 2 month long training...

[Rodbi]

One of the best things for Gilas I see with the current FIBA format for one complete Olympic cycle is that high-profile world and continental-level tournaments are now a yearly thing. Being a yearly thing = more exposure to high-level international competition = better for Philippine basketball in the long run, win or lose.

[IPC]

thanks COJ and SK

so the "new" management to handle SBP would have some time to organise a new team\s for these qualifiers. good to know although im not hoping much based of whats been happening for the last few years.

Yeah, in the near future, we ain't expecting much.

In other news, anyone have any streaming sites for the FIFA Women's World Cup this August? If you do, reply in this thread: https://www.interbasket.net/forums/f...ppine-football

Honestly, I feel that that WC might be better worth watching.

[CoJ]

feels like 2023 will be the last time we’ll be playing in the FIBA world cup given how messed up the SBP is. Hope I am wrong

[sroth3839]

feels like 2023 will be the last time we’ll be playing in the FIBA world cup given how messed up the SBP is. Hope I am wrong

It’s still possible.

Just don’t expect the same level of intensity against higher ranked teams or podium finishes.

Expect the SMC group to be more aggressive with their “exceptions” push.

[JAMSKIE]

feels like 2023 will be the last time we’ll be playing in the FIBA world cup given how messed up the SBP is. Hope I am wrong

Yeah. Becoz unlike in this year's World Cup where we got an automatic qualification being one of the hosts, in the 2027 World Cup, we really have to work our butts out to qualify.

The irony is that just when we have the right materials - a skilled 7-foot center & a good size & athletic back-up center, good size fours & athletic small forwards, parang doon pa tayo diskumpyado na mag qualify. Well, I think our doubts are well founded naman.

I think everything looked promising way back in 2021 when we got Tab Baldwin as our Gilas head coach. Then everything went awry when Al Panlilio & other SBP people stirred the hornet's nest. And here we are with only barely 3 months into the much awaited World Cup, cramming & our preparation still having some hitches. We started well, then we fucked up the endgame.

"These things happened. They were glorious and they changed the world... and then we fucked up the endgame." - Charlie Wilson

[JAMSKIE]

According to Quinito Henson, This is PHL's set of tune up games before WC:

Euro trip:

Finland
Latvia
Estonia
Lithuania U21

China trip:

Iran
Lebanon
Senegal

And also a tune up game vs Puerto Rico before the WC SETS...

https://www.philstar.com/sports/2023/06/05/2271480/gilas-sets-friendlies

Also disappointing that they scrap a possible tune up game vs Greece, Although i understand since they are not available on Aug. 23, since they want to recover for that 2 month long training...

Oh those are good tune-up games for us. Those European countries are really tough opponents. Unfortunately Clarkson & Kai won't be there. I think we can beat Lithuania U-21, Estonia (senior) & Finland (senior) with Clarkson & Kai in tow.

[BJ_Reloaded]

It’s still possible.

Just don’t expect the same level of intensity against higher ranked teams or podium finishes.

Expect the SMC group to be more aggressive with their “exceptions” push.

If ever they will handle the new management and be aggressive on lobbying some exception, I hope they could somehow sponsor those young FSA’s that I’ve mentioned before instead of JB which is really a comedy move on the part of Panlilio and Vargas.

[reamily]

Due to having their own league Italian basketball have its own brand like Spain, they play with flair like Americans..imagine nicco mannion is us bred..

And yeah dissapointing to the eyes of many, I get the pount we dont play in games where we do potential picture taking experience with nba idols.. and we dont use our adrenaline game also in agame that doesnt count..

[Giannis34GOD]

One of the best things for Gilas I see with the current FIBA format for one complete Olympic cycle is that high-profile world and continental-level tournaments are now a yearly thing. Being a yearly thing = more exposure to high-level international competition = better for Philippine basketball in the long run, win or lose.

International tournaments these days are marketable now… even newcomers and low ranked teams such as Mongolia, Indonesia, Estonia, etc… have their fan bases in their hometown… the main reason here is money they profit by having more international games… they copy how FIFA run their schedules and aside from it works, the money is very huge in every game of national teams.. and yes, it will benefit in each country, that’s why Indonesia is not afraid now facing the Philippines today… because they now facing teams who are same level or better than the Philippines… Indonesia are also taking part of Pre-OQT and even they lose there, the experience they will get is very valuable especially in the future tournaments…

[Giannis34GOD]

Oh those are good tune-up games for us. Those European countries are really tough opponents. Unfortunately Clarkson & Kai won't be there. I think we can beat Lithuania U-21, Estonia (senior) & Finland (senior) with Clarkson & Kai in tow.

Well, finland and Latvia will play there w/o their nba players too before the allowed 28 day agreement between nba and fiba… so gilas will face finland w/o Markannen and Latvia w/o porzingis and Bertans… still strong opponents even w/o nba players… you see most of tune up matches held by all participating countries started late July because that is the time nba players are there already…