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  • Originally posted by DAdmiral View Post

    Isn't this acceptance thst perhaps the Philippine homegrown players who are hyped are probably not really as good as players who can make an itsly and DR NT roster .who are raised overseas.
    I mean seriously Dalph who could have played for Italy is miles away of the level of being a prospect for Italy., would be questionable to even play in their premier league as a local.
    Why use Dalph as an example of where were at, when Dalph isn't even a serious prospect for Gilas now? I mean seriously, just because he's born in Italy or playing in the NCAA doesn't mean he'll be successful in the PBA, or even considered by leagues from neighboring countries.

    A lot has changed in 4 years. So much improvement on our side. We can only gauge accurately once we face Italy and DR again this year. You're assessing our players' talent level prematurely.
    Manifesting: Philippines top 5 in the FIBA World Rankings

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    • Originally posted by paliganibossalfrancis View Post

      because that 2019 WC roster was ill-constructed, underprepared, badly coached. it's as if we were there solely for participation. We had an overweight ex-NBA player who's been out of the league for almost half a decade carrying the load. Recipe for disaster.

      Now our locals consist of BLeague, NBL, KBL, (cream of the crop) PBA, and NBA players. It's too early to say that Italian and DR players are miles ahead when they haven't faced our current, more dynamic NT.
      We need a Hovasse who can implement his spacing strategy.

      The Japanese and NZ offensive system is the most applicable to us.

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      • Feistyness of argentina basketball team but the shooting accuracy of the japanese.. and heart of a Filipino hahah.. CHot lets face it you dream of our basketball team playing like Argentina..
        To becomes Asia's Best, we need to compete against the World's Best..
        1 Big 4 small > 5 out offense.

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        • Originally posted by reamily View Post
          JC second best palyer i the group lol? even if we have the best one if we dont have a cohesive team it doesnt matter.. Basketball is a team sport and a one dimensional scorer is a best player in this field? He cant even get his footprint on wael arakji..and I am saying this as a clarkson guy over brownlee..
          Tell that to the NBA scouts then...Arakji can't even make it in the NBA.

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          • Some just have a false sense of levels, many of the top Asian players would be doubtful of making the Italian and DR NT , especially none centers, probably no eligible Asian local (excluding the Jap NBAers) would make iit to either team.

            Realize if guys like Kelly Williams or Philpps stayed in the Americas or Europe they would be hard pressed to even have pro careers . It's just a different level.

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            • Originally posted by KoolAid View Post

              Tell that to the NBA scouts then...Arakji can't even make it in the NBA.
              the Clarkson must show his playmaking skills..and prove that in the nba he isnt just a one dimensional scorer
              To becomes Asia's Best, we need to compete against the World's Best..
              1 Big 4 small > 5 out offense.

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              • Originally posted by DAdmiral View Post
                Some just have a false sense of levels, many of the top Asian players would be doubtful of making the Italian and DR NT , especially none centers, probably no eligible Asian local (excluding the Jap NBAers) would make iit to either team.

                Realize if guys like Kelly Williams or Philpps stayed in the Americas or Europe they would be hard pressed to even have pro careers . It's just a different level.
                You do have to realize that some European players on NTs or South American players on NTs can't even crack an NCAA D1 lineup like some of our Fil-fors did. Yes, there are Levels to this.
                Manifesting: Philippines top 5 in the FIBA World Rankings

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                • Originally posted by paliganibossalfrancis View Post

                  You do have to realize that some European players on NTs or South American players on NTs can't even crack an NCAA D1 lineup like some of our Fil-fors did. Yes, there are Levels to this.
                  Misleading, again, the discussion was about our WC group limited to Italy and DR , and not just any of their NT, but their A team for the WC, nope i don't think any of our eligible Fil ams make the A team WC roster for those 2 respective teams and neither will Kai. In fact given Brownlee age and size for skillet he may not even make it as well. Know the context , rather than selectivily finding an exception to fit a player can play at level, that's Kai type of logic to support hype.
                  Last edited by DAdmiral; 05-31-2023, 02:47 AM.

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                  • So team USA prepares for just 2 weeks , from August 7

                    two final pre-World Cup games for the Americans will be held in Abu Dhabi, against Greece on Aug. 18 and Germany on Aug. 20.​

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                    • hard to match these 10 DR players
                      Depth chartEdit

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                      Pos. Starting 5 Bench 1 Bench 2 [/TR]
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                      C [TD]Eloy Vargas[/TD]
                      [TD]Juan Guerrero[/TD]
                      [TD]Juan Miguel Suero[/TD]
                      [/TR]
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                      PF [TD][URL="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%81ngel_Delgado"]

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                      • Here's a June Mar article: https://www.onesports.ph/gilas/artic...ter-mcl-injury

                        It says that he could return in time for the WC preps. Honestly, maybe as a practice body and emergency backup, but that's about his use in FIBA at this point, especially after that Feb window.

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                        • Originally posted by reamily View Post

                          the Clarkson must show his playmaking skills..and prove that in the nba he isnt just a one dimensional scorer

                          ​to be fair to clarkson he's an underrated role player. he was promising as a PG/primary playmaker during his lakers rookie season. after that the lakers drafted d'angelo russell and clarkson was relegated to being primarily a scorer, and that continued throughout the rest of his career. i thought his passing/playmaking was gone for good but when the jazz traded donovan mitchell & mike conley, clarkson showed he can still be a good PG for a team that needs him to be one

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                          • Originally posted by IPC View Post
                            Here's a June Mar article: https://www.onesports.ph/gilas/artic...ter-mcl-injury

                            It says that he could return in time for the WC preps. Honestly, maybe as a practice body and emergency backup, but that's about his use in FIBA at this point, especially after that Feb window.
                            It seems it's a major tear. Or maybe it is just compounded by his compensating for his repaired leg. I'm telling you we might be in for a bigger disappointment than the previous WC. Our frontline is either old and coming from injury or lacks stamina. And SBP is wasting money to give exemption to either JC or JB, neither have a Philippine basketball heritage. JB was already in his prime when he came here. We can't lay any claim in his basketball development.

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                            • Originally posted by paliganibossalfrancis View Post

                              You do have to realize that some European players on NTs or South American players on NTs can't even crack an NCAA D1 lineup like some of our Fil-fors did. Yes, there are Levels to this.
                              This is just nonsense, most Euro and South American (esp. Brazil and Argentina and maybe Venezuela) players just chose not to play D1 basketball since they already had options in their teenage years to play professionally and earn money in their countries. Also, those countries already produced NBA or EuroLeague talents straight from their pro leagues.

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                              • Originally posted by Rds View Post

                                And SBP is wasting money to give exemption to either JC or JB, neither have a Philippine basketball heritage. JB was already in his prime when he came here. We can't lay any claim in his basketball development.
                                Spot on the bold part , it's reasonable claim player basketball heritage was developed and raised locally. , that's the specific criteria, it's not mere residency
                                they are also wasting the opportunity of getting exemption for those who meet the criteria (developed locally), that is why those who belong and represented a Youth team ( regardless of limited residency are automatically exempted - examples, Spencer, Gamber , Zain etc. (despite over 16 passport)
                                Last edited by DAdmiral; 05-31-2023, 10:04 PM.

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