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  • Originally posted by Rds View Post
    I don't think that will work. Newsome probably got the exemption because he got his passport at 16, came over here at a relative young age and has been play for a long time. The above 3 probably didnt even get their passport at age 16.
    Nah if you read the article he got it at 17. Phillips committed to La Salle at 17 and if there are delays with his passport it can be easily argued that the pandemic was too blame. Also if Newsome's case was the same as Jawatos well Jawato got his passport at his early 20s.

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    • Originally posted by Rds View Post
      I don't think that will work. Newsome probably got the exemption because he got his passport at 16, came over here at a relative young age and has been play for a long time. The above 3 probably didnt even get their passport at age 16.
      I think he was referring to the Slaughter route for the cases of our promising Fil-foreign players

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      • Originally posted by carmelo7 View Post
        I think he was referring to the Slaughter route for the cases of our promising Fil-foreign players
        It doesn't apply. Greg was exempted in 2018. He is 34 now. So that happened when he was 30. How old is Mike Phillips, 19? Good luck waiting 11 years for him to be exempted.

        IRC Greg got his visa at age 17 and has been in the country around that age.

        I mean SBP can try. But let's not get our hopes up because 30 something Newsome got an exemption.

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        • Originally posted by Rds View Post
          It doesn't apply. Greg was exempted in 2018. He is 34 now. So that happened when he was 30. How old is Mike Phillips, 19? Good luck waiting 11 years for him to be exempted.

          IRC Greg got his visa at age 17 and has been in the country around that age.

          I mean SBP can try. But let's not get our hopes up because 30 something Newsome got an exemption.
          So we need to wait for an X amount of years why would you say it doesnt apply?? we currently have Tamayo,Balti & to some extent Malonzo so no need to rush on the cases of Philipps,Lucero & Koon

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          • Originally posted by Rds View Post
            It doesn't apply. Greg was exempted in 2018. He is 34 now. So that happened when he was 30. How old is Mike Phillips, 19? Good luck waiting 11 years for him to be exempted.

            IRC Greg got his visa at age 17 and has been in the country around that age.

            I mean SBP can try. But let's not get our hopes up because 30 something Newsome got an exemption.
            Actually Newsome's case is a case for some hope since he only played 2 years with Ateneo. This gives hope to the likes of Lucero/Winston. Also if he only plays 2yrs what more 5 like Mike will probably play for La Salle. He should get his sooner. But yeah probably skipping Taiwan for the PBA is necessary for them to be eligible in the future. Hopefully, the Hagop rule is abolished by then.

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            • Originally posted by sajubeads View Post
              With the Malonzo, Adams and Newsome now classified as locals, next Gilas team may Mighty Sports feel in it...Last 2019 Jones Cup , Asian teams cant match the length and athleticism of Mighty Sports sweeping the competition...
              i actually dont understand this. so the tiebreaker times article say the writer went into FIBA portal.so no official statement, they just assumed the eligibility?

              also, i went to the portal now and searched the players:
              Jayden Harper -> https://www.fiba.basketball/search?s...arper#|tab=all
              US lahat
              WE DON'T COUNT YEARS, WE COUNT CENTURIES

              P. Noval, A.H. Lacson, Dapitan, Espanya
              SANTO TOMAS APAT NA DAAN

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              • Originally posted by C2Hamm View Post
                i actually dont understand this. so the tiebreaker times article say the writer went into FIBA portal.so no official statement, they just assumed the eligibility?

                also, i went to the portal now and searched the players:
                Jayden Harper -> https://www.fiba.basketball/search?s...arper#|tab=all
                US lahat
                If you click the View Full Profile you'd see that his nationality & national team says PHI

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                • Originally posted by carmelo7 View Post
                  If you click the View Full Profile you'd see that his nationality & national team says PHI
                  Explore the career and performances of Jayden Christopher Keith Harper. Access all stats, latest news, photos, videos and achievements.


                  Could this be just an error on the part of FIBA?

                  FIBA is notorious for getting the heights of some players wrong.
                  "A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV

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                  • Originally posted by carmelo7 View Post
                    If you click the View Full Profile you'd see that his nationality & national team says PHI
                    my contention is, was there a formal notice from FIBA of their classification? It doesnt matter what country they put in the profile. what matters is the official stance of FIBA. in AJEF FB group, Enzo Flojo is saying there has been no discussion yet on Harper so that article is wrong. He can't comment with the other players mention.
                    WE DON'T COUNT YEARS, WE COUNT CENTURIES

                    P. Noval, A.H. Lacson, Dapitan, Espanya
                    SANTO TOMAS APAT NA DAAN

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                    • Originally posted by Rds View Post
                      I don't think that will work. Newsome probably got the exemption because he got his passport at 16, came over here at a relative young age and has been play for a long time. The above 3 probably didnt even get their passport at age 16.
                      I believe Balunggay and Phillips both got their passport at 17, so as long as they stay here in PH, they have a high chance of being considered as a local some time in the future. We'll hold on to that hope at the very least.

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                      • Originally posted by JAMSKIE View Post
                        https://www.fiba.basketball/en/playe...per#tab=videos

                        Could this be just an error on the part of FIBA?

                        FIBA is notorious for getting the heights of some players wrong.

                        They rely on the data and info the local federation supplied to them. The mere fact that Harper's name is already in the DB, filed under the PHL, gives us hope

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                        • Decisions for exceptions can only be granted if a case is filed for the player officially to FiBA central.
                          The only reason Greg and Newsome took so long isn't because they were only entitled to be eligible then, but their cases were inky filled at that late age.
                          The thing is it's only now that SBP is entering names in the system ,even if the player is not going to play for a specific tournament yet.
                          Previously SBP would only file for an exception when there was intent to use the player for a window or tournament.

                          Note a number of players where included in both the 3rd window and Asia cup even if they were not intending to use them , (with an application fee for exception) to get them.cleared.

                          You can assume a few were returned and informed some still lack years of residency for consideration. Hint the UAAP ineligibles (assume in a few years hopefully by 2025 or 2026 they will establish enough points (e.g .# of years playing locally)

                          You can use Jawato case, as guide on how many years domestic play did he play in Indonesia before he was granted an exception? Was it 5 years ?

                          So if UAAP players moved here at 18 year.old freshman bu thr time of 5th year they would be eligible exempted (just a guide)
                          Last edited by DAdmiral; 07-26-2022, 01:04 PM.

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                          • Originally posted by DAdmiral View Post
                            Decisions for exceptions can only be granted if a case is filed for the player officially to FiBA central.
                            The only reason Greg and Newsome took so long isn't because they were only entitled to be eligible then, but their cases were inky filled at that late age.
                            The thing is it's only now that SBP is entering names in the system ,even if the player is not going to play for a specific tournament yet.
                            Previously SBP would only file for an exception when there was intent to use the player for a window or tournament.

                            Note a number of players where included in both the 3rd window and Asia cup even if they were not intending to use them , (with an application fee for exception) to get them.cleared.

                            You can assume a few were returned and informed some still lack years of residency for consideration. Hint the UAAP ineligibles (assume in a few years hopefully by 2025 or 2026 they will establish enough points (e.g .# of years playing locally)

                            You can use Jawato case, as guide on how many years domestic play did he play in Indonesia before he was granted an exception? Was it 5 years ?

                            So if UAAP players moved here at 18 year.old freshman bu thr time of 5th year they would be eligible exempted (just a guide)
                            Im pretty sure Chris Koon is a legit candidate but lacks the residency requirement pero again hopefully Koon, M.Philipps & Lucero after 4-5 years

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                            • So we can do that to Quentin Millora-Brown, Sage Tolentino, Travis Roberts, Christian David, and other Fil-fors who are good but will not likely be drafted in the NBA?
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                              • Originally posted by live_evil View Post
                                So we can do that to Quentin Millora-Brown, Sage Tolentino, Travis Roberts, Christian David, and other Fil-fors who are good but will not likely be drafted in the NBA?
                                Should've done that 2-4 years ago when they were longer. Lack of foresight na naman.

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