Fiba World Cup 2023 Philippines

[Dotch]

Either way, Luka Doncic, alongside Nikola Jokic and Giannis (and even Embiid if France secure his naturalization papers in France before WC starts) are crowd drawlers next year... and yes, team USA will be a sure hit... Jayson Tatum will led this team for sure...

Indonesia and Okinawa,Japan will not settle for patsies either. PHL wont have the monopoly of NBA Stars in the Group Stages.

[Dotch]

Well, i would love to have Lithuania in our group.. Like us, they are basketball nation too.. They will fill the arena for sure.... Either way, basketball is now global sport and 2nd for being most popular, They will come here to watch the games... It will boost out tourism, This is what BBM wants, too boost PHL brand of tourism... That's why BBM should renovate our airports, especially NAIA... NAIA is one of the worst airport terminals in the world today... I don't want our country to be shamed just like we hosted SEAG 3 years ago...

Well, that escalated quickly.....

[IPC]

Whether we like it or not, the endgame is they're still fielding a PBA-centric national team for the WC next year. To them, it's a matter of breathing life into a dying league.

We'll probably see the return of Bolick and Perez and possibly Romeo. Junemar will probably be asked to join again along with either Erram or Japeth. Then they'll throw in some outsiders like Edu, Dwight, Thirdy, and move heaven and earth to get Parks again for the sake of success. Remember, it's the PBA's life source that is at stake here.

Of course, the big guns will be the NBA-level talents like Kai and Clarkson, and if the latter is allowed to play as a local, another brownlee-type super import who's highly reliable at both ends of the floor.

It's most likely a goodbye to the Baltazars and the Tamayos and to genuine grassroots development.

Perez, Bolick, Kiefer, maybe June Mar, Japeth, and probably Erram and Scottie would be fine. Along with Oftana, that's all I'm taking from the PBA, for the pool. Yes, the PBA also has Lee, Terrence, and Marcio, but we already have Heading and Dwight for their roles. And not another tourney with Pogoy, Troy, and Wright, who have all massively underperformed.

If the PBA barges in and interferes, man. When will these guys realize that good PBA players don't necessarily make good FIBA players?

[barok espinoza]

Perez, Bolick, Kiefer, maybe June Mar, Japeth, and probably Erram and Scottie would be fine. Along with Oftana, that's all I'm taking from the PBA, for the pool. Yes, the PBA also has Lee, Terrence, and Marcio, but we already have Heading and Dwight for their roles. And not another tourney with Pogoy, Troy, and Wright, who have all massively underperformed.

If the PBA barges in and interferes, man. When will these guys realize that good PBA players don't necessarily make good FIBA players?

I still believe that the core of tab's 2021 team coached by him and reinforced by clarkson (playing as a local), edu, parks, and 2 elite guards from the PBA will give us the best chances to move to the 2nd round of the WC and perhaps snatch a slot in the next Olympics. Having said that, I must acknowledge the fact that this lineup will not see the light of day because the PBA will want all the limelight for itself come 2023.

I have nothing against PBA players and coaches but we've already seen them in action with Clarkson in 2018 and they failed to deliver. That defeat did not inspire confidence. Now, if they're going to hijack the 2023 WC, then they better do it right. SMC and MVP must unite. If they can field Junmar and Japeth together with Kai and Edu, they can afford to lose Kouame and proceed to acquire a high-scoring 6'7 forward as our naturalized player. With Clarkson playing as a local, we'll have 2 NBA-level scorers. for the record, I will still choose tab's team with kouame over this version but one does what one can.

[CoJ]

from the horse's mouth
"To be very honest, I don't think by 2023, we can't put the best team without the PBA players. That's the reality we have to face."
-Chot Reyes

link: https://tiebreakertimes.com.ph/tbt/c...players/241754

[IPC]

from the horse's mouth
"To be very honest, I don't think by 2023, we can't put the best team without the PBA players. That's the reality we have to face."
-Chot Reyes

link: https://tiebreakertimes.com.ph/tbt/c...players/241754

Technically, he's correct, some of our better FIBA-fit players are in the PBA. Those PBA players are Bolick, Perez, Oftana, Kiefer, and maybe June Mar, Erram, and Japeth. If it's Troy, Wright, Pogoy, and even Lee, I'd rather look outside the PBA for better options.

[barok espinoza]

Technically, he's correct, some of our better FIBA-fit players are in the PBA. Those PBA players are Bolick, Perez, Oftana, Kiefer, and maybe June Mar, Erram, and Japeth. If it's Troy, Wright, Pogoy, and even Lee, I'd rather look outside the PBA for better options.

The problem with a lineup laden with PBA players is the 3 pointer. 25% accuracy just won't cut it. Oftana, for example, has a career average of .319 from the arc in the PBA. Since FIBA has way better competition, expect this to significantly drop during FIBA tournaments, especially in do or die situations. Collegiate players in the gilas roster can't do any better statistically but the system which tab utilized somehow compensated as it evenly distributed the load of scoring among the 5 amateurs/semi pros on court. PBA star players will just force their shots because that's the system they know.

Defense is another concern as bad habits that don't translate well in fiba games have already been proselytized into the PBA players. A foreign coach can teach but it's very difficult to override the muscle memory of players, more so when the players only have 2 to 3 months to unlearn years of accumulated bad habits. again, advantage goes to the amateurs/non-pba players. for a serious artist who wants to produce a masterpiece, painting on a blank slate is easier than retouching the works of a wannabe.

that being said, we all know where this is going to end. PBA will be well-represented in the WC. This means no more cerebral offensive systems and defense that works like clockwork. Our best defense is just more offense. That's why we need Clarkson to play as a local and then acquire another high-scoring forward as our naturalized player, that is, if we really want to overcome the first round. Jaylen Green or Harper Jr, we're looking at you.

[tomcat]

Complete opposite of Choke Reyes' dribble dribble dribble dribble drive system..

[ja.he]

from the horse's mouth
"To be very honest, I don't think by 2023, we can't put the best team without the PBA players. That's the reality we have to face."
-Chot Reyes

link: https://tiebreakertimes.com.ph/tbt/c...players/241754

just look at the flags of the ballclubs these players are part of.

[thatweirdguy]

Well the coaching staff is part of the team too aren't they? You're the weakest link Chot. And there are far better options than you. To be honest our lineup isn't that strong and now we also have to coached by a dunce like you. Lugi na nga sa players lugi pa din sa coach. That's the reality we have to face.

[barok espinoza]

Complete opposite of Choke Reyes' dribble dribble dribble dribble drive system..

In short, they became an offensive outlier because their roster was loaded with great passers.

Conversely, PBA players are not used to passing the ball efficiently. Height affects court vision. Our midget guards have costed us games against taller opponents more than we care to admit. This system will only work if we have a lineup composed of tall players like Panopio, Dwight, Navarro, Baltazar, and Tamayo.

[C2Hamm]

Technically, he's correct, some of our better FIBA-fit players are in the PBA. Those PBA players are Bolick, Perez, Oftana, Kiefer, and maybe June Mar, Erram, and Japeth. If it's Troy, Wright, Pogoy, and even Lee, I'd rather look outside the PBA for better options.

does it really matter where the players are from if they dont play together for an extended period of time? who played in feb window who played at the SEA games? are they playing for the korean tuneup and next window? are they playing in asian cup?
SBP will keep shuffling players. and it looks like theyll shuffle coaching too. are we that confident that we have a solid cohesive team by next year?

[JAMSKIE]

does it really matter where the players are from if they dont play together for an extended period of time? who played in feb window who played at the SEA games? are they playing for the korean tuneup and next window? are they playing in asian cup?
SBP will keep shuffling players. and it looks like theyll shuffle coaching too. are we that confident that we have a solid cohesive team by next year?

That's what they call "chop suey" bro.

Come to think of it, who have coached Gilas in the last 2 years?
We went from coach Mike Dickel (remember Dickel coached Gilas in the 1st window of the FIBA Asia Cup qualifiers in February 2020), to coach Jong Uichico, to coach Tab, to Choke Reyes, coach Nenad Vucinic & then Choke Reyes again.

Coach pa lang yun!!! I have yet to mention the Gilas players.

[C2Hamm]

That's what they call "chop suey" bro.

Come to think of it, who have coached Gilas in the last 2 years?
We went from coach Mike Dickel (remember Dickel coached Gilas in the 1st window of the FIBA Asia Cup qualifiers in February 2020), to coach Jong Uichico, to coach Tab, to Choke Reyes, coach Nenad Vucinic & then Choke Reyes again.

Coach pa lang yun!!! I have yet to mention the Gilas players.

if you remove CCR with what you said, there is a somewhat continuity in terms of plays that will be used. but of course, each coach would have his own specific plays but base philosophy would be near similar. CCR is the odd man out.

[DAdmiral]

2023 Gilas wishlist

Center : Kai , AJ (5- 10 min)
PF : Harper Jr , Tamayo, Baltazar
SF Dwight , Thirdy , (harper jr slides to 3)
SG Parks , Tuffin
PG Kiefer , Heading, (Dwight, Parks secondary ball handlers)