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  • Originally posted by robert0326
    Uytengsu it's a yes but no to Chua... He's also another devil side personality... malamang he's an anti-foreign coach and you see Coach Leo Austria as Gilas coach... Goodluck to that... hahahahahahaha!!!
    It would take a miracle for Uytengsu to be SBP head. Both him and the SBP stakeholders are probably not inclined to do so. But I'll take it if it does happen

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    • Originally posted by robert0326
      Uytengsu it's a yes but no to Chua... He's also another devil side personality... malamang he's an anti-foreign coach and you see Coach Leo Austria as Gilas coach... Goodluck to that... hahahahahahaha!!!
      At least we'll get all the best SMC players (not just 1 per team), and funding for salary and insurance of naturalized players. Imagine finally having a pool of NP players including brownlee and mccollough.

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      • Originally posted by robert0326
        The question is who among SMC eligible players who are fit in FIBA setting? cross out already those ineligible players guys like Pringle, Cstand, Ross, Tautuaa... The only players are Perez, Romeo, Lassiter, Japeth and Junmar only... Lee is worst than Pogoy in FIBA setting, Abueva is too small being at SF, Thompson still inconsistent with his shooting, LA is too old, same as Chan and Barroca, while Jalalon is too small... And they don't have a good coach that is fit in FIBA setting... If most tell Tim Cone then goodluck against the likes of Japan, Korea and NZL, who are perimeter oriented teams... For sure they will shoot the lights out against us.... Coach Leo? Goodluck with that... while coach Chito is not yet proven in FIBA setting yet... With Chua as Gilas director, Expect anti foreign coach under him...
        Im not saying Chua as Gilas director. I'm saying i want all stakeholders be represented in the SBP, not just 1 camp like how it is right now.

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        • Originally posted by robert0326
          For now, It's impossible due to personal conflict of interest between two heavy conglomerate camps... I wold love to have UNITY (As BBM wants to tell to all) among all sports officials but for now, it's not bound to happen... Maybe if government will interfere...
          LOL it's impossible because 1 camp wants to monopolize the revenue generated by the gilas brand. Personal conflict? Ano akala mo jan sa mga yan, may tampuhan?

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          • Originally posted by robert0326
            SMC and MVP were already have conflict of interest since then.. more than 1 decade na sila nian... If you didn't follow Gilas basketball since Gilas 1.0 days then you didn't know why these two rivals still have a cold war until now in terms of basketball supremacy here in the country...
            Bro they're fighting over monopoly of the gilas brand, which is equal to revenue. Pera usapan jan. MVP shelled out millions from his pocket, he is obviously expecting return of his investment, hence he will not allow other camps to benefit from his investments. Same reason bakit may commercial palagi ng Smart kapag may high profile player na sasali sa pool (e.g. Kai Sotto, Clarkson).

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            • Originally posted by lurklurk View Post
              Bro they're fighting over monopoly of the gilas brand, which is equal to revenue. Pera usapan jan. MVP shelled out millions from his pocket, he is obviously expecting return of his investment, hence he will not allow other camps to benefit from his investments. Same reason bakit may commercial palagi ng Smart kapag may high profile player na sasali sa pool (e.g. Kai Sotto, Clarkson).
              I dont think its about the money as much as it is about winning championships for mostly Ateneo and maybe his PBA teams to a lesser extent. I mean how many recruits did MVP/Tab use their Gilas connections to land?

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              • Originally posted by lurklurk View Post
                Im not saying Chua as Gilas director. I'm saying i want all stakeholders be represented in the SBP, not just 1 camp like how it is right now.
                The SBP's officers are elected, if I remember, but I dunno about the membership of the federation.

                Either Chua's unpopular, or only MVP Group members are in the SBP.

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                • Originally posted by astigram04
                  Paul Lee was actually more productive than Pogoy despite playing less. He did better than Pogoy in every statistical category. Plus, Paul can play PG, Pogoy can not. It's just that there's already Jimmy, Jason and Tenorio at the PG spot so paul had to play at the 2 spot exclusively. If one of the PGs went down to injury, he would've played a lot more.
                  Lee is more talented and skilled than Pogoy. But Lee has more mileage on his legs because of his weight. But Lee in his prime was a wonder to behold. He carried us over China without Castro and Douthit instead of Blatche. Granted they didn't have their veterans but their 7 footers like Qi and others were already good then.

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                  • Originally posted by Rds View Post
                    Lee is more talented and skilled than Pogoy. But Lee has more mileage on his legs because of his weight. But Lee in his prime was a wonder to behold. He carried us over China without Castro and Douthit instead of Blatche. Granted they didn't have their veterans but their 7 footers like Qi and others were already good then.
                    only negative about Lee during that time was his defense and his weight, but yeah prime paul dalistan is a potent offensive weapon

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                    • Originally posted by Rds View Post
                      Lee is more talented and skilled than Pogoy. But Lee has more mileage on his legs because of his weight. But Lee in his prime was a wonder to behold. He carried us over China without Castro and Douthit instead of Blatche. Granted they didn't have their veterans but their 7 footers like Qi and others were already good then.
                      2014 Gilas Paul Lee was something else, other version onwards literally sucked

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                      • I'd imagine if Paul Lee can play make, he'll make more noise internationally. But I don't dwell on the past, we still have a 28 year old Kiefer Ravena who I believe can surpass him ten folds if utilized and integrated to a good system properly. 5 footers should be able to playmake, no damn excuses, if you can't then gtfo of the court, I don't care if you can make undefended full court shots with a 20% fg.

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                        • Originally posted by astigram04
                          I doubt the revenues from the gate attendance to the revenues from advertisement could even cover for the expenses.
                          Nah, bro. TV ads on a 2-hr gilas game can get almost 9 figures. People kill for that money.

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                          • Originally posted by IPC View Post
                            The SBP's officers are elected, if I remember, but I dunno about the membership of the federation.

                            Either Chua's unpopular, or only MVP Group members are in the SBP.
                            Nasa wikipedia yung board members bro.

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                            • Originally posted by Sikatrix View Post
                              I dont think its about the money as much as it is about winning championships for mostly Ateneo and maybe his PBA teams to a lesser extent. I mean how many recruits did MVP/Tab use their Gilas connections to land?
                              It's going to lead to a very different mental model if the endgoal is winning college championships. Im getting the impression that ADMU staff with CTB do use the gilas network to recruit, but not if its a direct conflict to furthering the improvement of the gilas program. Case in point is how they handled Tamayo and Baltazar. They can definitely recruit/pirate those 2 hard, but they know that if they do, other camps will no longer lend their players to the program. So there's a line that they draw there, and its a proof to me that that's not the endgoal there. Saka ano ba mapapala ni MVP sa championships ng Ateneo? Bragging rights? Pfft, too shallow for me, im sure its the same for MVP.

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                              • Originally posted by lurklurk View Post
                                It's going to lead to a very different mental model if the endgoal is winning college championships. Im getting the impression that ADMU staff with CTB do use the gilas network to recruit, but not if its a direct conflict to furthering the improvement of the gilas program. Case in point is how they handled Tamayo and Baltazar. They can definitely recruit/pirate those 2 hard, but they know that if they do, other camps will no longer lend their players to the program. So there's a line that they draw there, and its a proof to me that that's not the endgoal there. Saka ano ba mapapala ni MVP sa championships ng Ateneo? Bragging rights? Pfft, too shallow for me, im sure its the same for MVP.
                                Remember when Pumaren and Altamirano raided our youth teams? I'm glad those amounted to zero championships combined.

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