Fiba World Cup 2023 Philippines

[lurklurk]

against elite teams in Asia. just like iran, he had difficulty playing against iranian bigs.

Simply put, JMF is an offensive player. To be competitive in the international game, we need a defensive-minded big to anchor our defense--i.e. Kouame.

Blatche back when he was our NP provided us what conventional 2-way bigs provide (post offense and defensive anchor) while also playing as a point center and being an outside threat.

[DAdmiral]

GILAS 9 MAN ROTATION

PG: Kiefer
SG: JC/ Thirdy
SF: Ramos/Heading
PF: AJ/ Baltazar
C: Kai/Kouame

Bench alternates for other games

PG: Bolick
PF: Tamayo
Defense Oftana


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I would go with above , reserves are for other games
9 man rotation per game

2/3 interchangeable and 1 /2 and 4/5 and 3/4

[The_Big_Cat]

I think Oftana is not a necessity for WC 2023 if Parks is available. Then you have Dwight Ramos and Jordan Clarkson. Those three Parks, Ramos and Clarkson can be our SFs.

As far as the shooting guards my choices are Thirdy, CJ Perez and Matthew Wright.

My point guard rotation are Robert Bolick, Kiefer Ravena and Kevin Alas.

[empyreanmaze]

Lol there are still believers of midget ball even amongst fans. A proper 3 guard lineup would either be Ray Parks, Dave Ildefonso, Dwight Ramos or Thirdy, Dwight and Tuffin/Oftana/Javi, at the same time on the court. Your 6’4 unathletic forwards paired with 2 5 footers or barely 6 footers would get shat on by Korea and Iran we don’t even need to guess what non-Asian teams will do to them lol.

[CoJ]

Lol there are still believers of midget ball even amongst fans. A proper 3 guard lineup would either be Ray Parks, Dave Ildefonso, Dwight Ramos or Thirdy, Dwight and Tuffin/Oftana/Javi, at the same time on the court. Your 6’4 unathletic forwards paired with 2 5 footers or barely 6 footers would get shat on by Korea and Iran we don’t even need to guess what non-Asian teams will do to them lol.

we'll get raped again, imagine Luka (6'7ish) being guarded by Belangel or Bolick

[IPC]

In the limited footage ive seen of heading, he looks like an all around shooter, in the sense that he can shoot on the move (relocating or off screens), stationary, and even off the dribble. Otoh, his limitations when it comes to his PG-skills is his playmaking and vision.

At least he can create his own shot. He can fit Chot's system (although I hope he has a proper system for FIBA, taking a lot of elements from Tab's offense). And, yeah, I think he can shoot on the move (something lacking in most homegrown Filipino shooters).

If he's going to play PG, he will need to play alongside a playmaker or within a ball and player movement-oriented offense.

[IPC]

Lol there are still believers of midget ball even amongst fans. A proper 3 guard lineup would either be Ray Parks, Dave Ildefonso, Dwight Ramos or Thirdy, Dwight and Tuffin/Oftana/Javi, at the same time on the court. Your 6’4 unathletic forwards paired with 2 5 footers or barely 6 footers would get shat on by Korea and Iran we don’t even need to guess what non-Asian teams will do to them lol.

Oh, my God, are you serious? Fans would still like Pinoy smol ball? Oh, man.

Pinoy smol ball is just three undersized but faster guards. However, if there are still traditional bigs manning 4 and 5, I wouldn't even call that small ball.

[IPC]

So, here's my wishlist for 2023.

Non-PBA

Guards: Kiefer, Parks, Thirdy, Dwight, Ildefonso, Juan GDL
Wings: Navarro, Lopez, Bahio, Adams (if indeed eligible)
Forwards: Baltazar, Tamayo, Quiambao
Bigs: Kai, AJ, Kouame, Cortez, Chiu, Lepalam

PBA

Guards: Bolick, Romeo, Perez
Wings: MGR, Oftana
Bigs: Erram, June Mar

I'll kinda edit this.

Non-PBA

Guards: Kiefer, Parks, Thirdy, Dwight, Ildefonso, Juan GDL, Bolick, Cansino
Wings: Navarro, Lopez, Bahio, Adams (if indeed eligible)
Forwards: Baltazar, Tamayo, Quiambao, Arana
Bigs: Kai, AJ, Kouame, Cortez, Chiu, Lepalam

PBA

Guards: Romeo, Perez
Wings: MGR, Oftana, Arvin Tolentino
Bigs: Erram

Updated it.

Non-PBA

Guards: Kiefer, Parks, Thirdy, Dwight, Ildefonso, Juan GDL, Clarkson, Abarrientos
Wings: Navarro, Lopez, Bahio, Adams (if indeed eligible), possibly Policarpio, Eusebio, and Torculas
Forwards: Baltazar, Tamayo, Quiambao
Bigs: Kai, AJ, Kouame, Cortez, Chiu, Lepalam

PBA

Guards: Bolick, Romeo, Perez
Wings: Oftana
Bigs: Erram

It might be expanded if the requests for exemption are granted to Mikey, Malonzo, and Jalen Green, but come on. I'd rather be realistic and focus on youth development for 2023 rather than the exemptions. Of course, we'd still like to remain competitive.

Updated again.

Non-PBA

Guards: Kiefer, Parks, Thirdy, Dwight, Ildefonso, Heading, Clarkson, Abarrientos
Wings: Navarro, Lopez, Adams (if indeed eligible)
Forwards: Baltazar, Tamayo, Quiambao
Bigs: Kai, AJ,*Kouame, Cortez, Chiu, Lepalam

PBA

Guards: Bolick, Perez
Wings: Oftana
Bigs: Japeth

[empyreanmaze]

we'll get raped again, imagine Luka (6'7ish) being guarded by Belangel or Bolick

Then when the 6'7-6'9 forwards like Hyunjung Lee and Watanabe in the future starts getting hot and draining 3s in front of players like Matthew Wright, Pogoy and Thirdy, threatening to balloon the lead to 20 points in the 3rd quarter, the diagnosis would've been they're not "closing out" quickly enough lol. We just can't get enough of players 6 inches taller draining jumpshots over our undersized players, this is some next level masochism.

[empyreanmaze]

Updated again.

Non-PBA

Guards: Kiefer, Parks, Thirdy, Dwight, Ildefonso, Heading, Clarkson, Abarrientos
Wings: Navarro, Lopez, Adams (if indeed eligible)
Forwards: Baltazar, Tamayo, Quiambao
Bigs: Kai, AJ,*Kouame, Cortez, Chiu, Lepalam

PBA

Guards: Bolick, Perez
Wings: Oftana
Bigs: Japeth

That's a really good pool suggestion, damn that would be amazing to see assembled. Better yet if they're separated into 2 competing teams like China, Jordan and Taiwan do with their teams although that's a far off suggestion.

[IPC]

Ultimate Dream 12:

Guards: Kiefer, Bolick, Heading, Dwight, Parks, (Clarkson)
Wings: Oftana, Thirdy
Forwards: Baltazar, Tamayo
Bigs: Kai, AJ, (Kouame)

"Realistic" Dream 12:

Guards: Kiefer, Bolick, Dwight, (Clarkson)
Wings: Oftana, Thirdy, Navarro/Lopez
Forwards: Baltazar, Tamayo
Bigs: Kai, AJ, (Kouame), Japeth

[The_Big_Cat]

My 15-man roster to the 2023 World Cup

PGs: Bolick, Kiefer, Alas
SGs: Perez, Thirdy, Wright
SFs: Clarkson, Parks, Ramos
PFs: Baltazar, Japeth, Paras
Cs: Kouame, Sotto, Edu

[Rds]

I dont know if this was from Eala or Chot. There's a Tab quote saying we dont need a lot of big players. Maybe it means we dont need to put players just because they are big. I guess from what Ive seen from Tab, if you can make players 1 to 3 tall you wont need a lot of tall 4 and 5s. So I guess focus more on skill and defensive flexibility. Even Kai he asked to do more drives.

This makes sense because we dont have a lot of tall 4s and 5s. So you make internationally undersized bigs like Balti and Carl to SFs, problem solved. So they can play smaller positions but also become more skilled for the big positions.

[CoJ]

Then when the 6'7-6'9 forwards like Hyunjung Lee and Watanabe in the future starts getting hot and draining 3s in front of players like Matthew Wright, Pogoy and Thirdy, threatening to balloon the lead to 20 points in the 3rd quarter, the diagnosis would've been they're not "closing out" quickly enough lol. We just can't get enough of players 6 inches taller draining jumpshots over our undersized players, this is some next level masochism.

i guess our basketball stakeholders are into some weird fetishes hahaha. On another note. i find it funny that Pinoys have this misconception that we have the speed advantage due to our height, like dude, the fastest person in the planet, Usain Bolt is freaking 6'5. Its painful to see 6'3-6'5 Euro guards (Those Serbs and Italians during the WC) run circles around Barroca and Paul Lee

[CoJ]

I dont know if this was from Eala or Chot. There's a Tab quote saying we dont need a lot of big players. Maybe it means we dont need to put players just because they are big. I guess from what Ive seen from Tab, if you can make players 1 to 3 tall you wont need a lot of tall 4 and 5s. So I guess focus more on skill and defensive flexibility. Even Kai he asked to do more drives.

true, what's the point of having 4 marlou aquinos or samigue emmans in your team, we need highly skilled players, specifically shooters and smart defenders. Too bad the Pogoys and Wrights of the Philippines suck at the world level