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Originally posted by robert0326With PBA is unsure of having a season until August, they should borrow first players who Tab needed..
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Originally posted by thatweirdguy View PostThe last time the PBA said we have their full support we got the TNT guys and Soyud. Would we be able to win these 3 games with those players? Considering we also don't have Heading, Tamayo etc back in Feb
Personal reasons should also be used on a case-to-case basis.
There should really be a policy that if you're called up and you have no legit medical or personal reasons, you're deemed to have accepted the call-up. Force the players to play for the flag.
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Originally posted by DAdmiral View PostThe pro vets don't necessarily have to come from PBA,
Clarkson, Thirdy and Kiefer (assuming not in PBA)
would suffice
BTW that is model (getting players from overseas leagues) that is more commonly used by good national teams.
Players playing overseas actually have more experience in FIBA level type of ball
and to those people who are thirsting to have PBA backed gilas, then probably they can wait after 2023 when maybe the pba takes over the national team program and we go back to the hugot system and the 1 week practice before the tournament.The message you have entered is too short. Please lengthen your message to at least 5 characters.
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Originally posted by thatweirdguy View PostThe last time the PBA said we have their full support we got the TNT guys and Soyud. Would we be able to win these 3 games with those players? Considering we also don't have Heading, Tamayo etc back in FebThe message you have entered is too short. Please lengthen your message to at least 5 characters.
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Originally posted by digitalsuperman View Postat this point we can just focus on the development of the young guys. we don't need the PBA players now anyway the target is 2023 and 2027? development is more important now.
and to those people who are thirsting to have PBA backed gilas, then probably they can wait after 2023 when maybe the pba takes over the national team program and we go back to the hugot system and the 1 week practice before the tournament.
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Originally posted by digitalsuperman View Postgetting players from the pba need to jump many hoops. you need to have the approval of the board even if they are from MVP teams.
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Originally posted by digitalsuperman View Postat this point we can just focus on the development of the young guys. we don't need the PBA players now anyway the target is 2023 and 2027? development is more important now.
and to those people who are thirsting to have PBA backed gilas, then probably they can wait after 2023 when maybe the pba takes over the national team program and we go back to the hugot system and the 1 week practice before the tournament.
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Originally posted by robert0326This could be our starting line up last Feb:
PG - Kiefer
SG - Pogoy
SF - Ramos
PF - Troy
C- Kai
I think we can 1-1 vs Korea then we will win vs Indonesia... Or maybe Tab will put Pogoy at 6th man then Baltazar and Troy will play 3 & 4 position simultaneously..
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Originally posted by DAdmiral View PostThe pro vets don't necessarily have to come from PBA,
Clarkson, Thirdy and Kiefer (assuming not in PBA)
would suffice
BTW that is model (getting players from overseas leagues) that is more commonly used by good national teams.
Players playing overseas actually have more experience in FIBA level type of ball
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Originally posted by Labradoodle View PostJust give the SEA games to the PBA. Even without practice, they'll probably win. Lol"A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV
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Originally posted by IPC View PostGuess Jimmy Alapag agrees with the necessity of PBA help come 2023: https://tiebreakertimes.com.ph/tbt/a...rld-cup/211625
However, he also agrees that the players should fit in Tab's system, and are able to pass on knowledge and experience.
The PBA has to cooperate by making all players available and ending or pausing the season at least 2 months (meaning 60 days) before the tournament proper. Tab might get more leverage if he makes at least the FIBA Asia quarters or even semis with an all-amateur team. Hopefully he does make it, not only for the good of the program, but to lessen the reliance on the PBA for talent if the league, teams, and players still refuse to cooperate."A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV
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With the way things are developing. Gilas National Team especially after 2023 would probably composed of:
1. Most Filams/Fil Foreigners/ Duap Citizens or whatever technical term you want to call it.
2. Most Played in International Leagues.
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Homegrown would probably only Kai, Tamayo, Balti,maybe Thirdy and Lopez. ( Prospects such as Basti Reyes depends on their development)
Dual Citizens will dominate the pool such as: Dwight, Heading, Tuffin, Amoses Edus, Harris, Harper, Tobias, deliaños, and other future newly discovered Fil Foreigners. Even if u add pba, Matthew Wright and Ray Parks will be considered.
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For the second point. Most of them, If NOT ALL, would have been played overseas.
Nbl Australia, NBL, New Zealand, US NCAA, Japan B League are the leagues we are exporting our players. Only euroleague or any euopean league are not yet explored by our players.
CONCLUSION:
1. FIL FOREIGN/DUAL CITIZEN PLAYERS ARE GENERALLY BETTER BASKETBALL PLAYERS THAN THEIR LOCAL HOMEGROWN COUNTERPARTS.
2. OUR BEST LOCALS/HOMEGROWN CAN COMPETE FOR THE SPOT IF THEY PLAY OVERSEAS.
OFC, THERE WILL BE EXEMPTIONS. BUT GENERALLY, THIS WILL BE TRUE. MAYBE IN 2027.
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Originally posted by JAMSKIE View PostWith PBA giving its players 60 days to train with Gilas, I say coach Tab only gets 3 to 4 PBA players, and that's it. If Jordan Clarkson is on board, hindi na natin kailangan ng maraming PBA players to reinforce the squad. I say Kiefer, Pogoy, Matt Wright (I would like Parks but his Parks' attitude would be detrimental to the team) & maybe Almazan.
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Originally posted by mathematicianrcg View PostWith the way things are developing. Gilas National Team especially after 2023 would probably composed of:
1. Most Filams/Fil Foreigners/ Duap Citizens or whatever technical term you want to call it.
2. Most Played in International Leagues.
1:
Homegrown would probably only Kai, Tamayo, Balti,maybe Thirdy and Lopez. ( Prospects such as Basti Reyes depends on their development)
Dual Citizens will dominate the pool such as: Dwight, Heading, Tuffin, Amoses Edus, Harris, Harper, Tobias, deliaños, and other future newly discovered Fil Foreigners. Even if u add pba, Matthew Wright and Ray Parks will be considered.
2:
For the second point. Most of them, If NOT ALL, would have been played overseas.
Nbl Australia, NBL, New Zealand, US NCAA, Japan B League are the leagues we are exporting our players. Only euroleague or any euopean league are not yet explored by our players.
CONCLUSION:
1. FIL FOREIGN/DUAL CITIZEN PLAYERS ARE GENERALLY BETTER BASKETBALL PLAYERS THAN THEIR LOCAL HOMEGROWN COUNTERPARTS.
2. OUR BEST LOCALS/HOMEGROWN CAN COMPETE FOR THE SPOT IF THEY PLAY OVERSEAS.
OFC, THERE WILL BE EXEMPTIONS. BUT GENERALLY, THIS WILL BE TRUE. MAYBE IN 2027.
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