Fiba World Cup 2023 Philippines

[DAdmiral]

If kouame and JC gets greenlight as local players do you guys think Gilas will need another naturalized player to fill the 3/4 position?

of course that would be ideal ( both excepted) , but that is really unlikely . furthermore the condition of the 2 ( JC and Ange) playing together may not be transferable to just any player.. don't ask me why.., Remember it is a request for an exception, not a normal process of simply getting players eligible for play

[thatweirdguy]

With PBA is unsure of having a season until August, they should borrow first players who Tab needed..

The last time the PBA said we have their full support we got the TNT guys and Soyud. Would we be able to win these 3 games with those players? Considering we also don't have Heading, Tamayo etc back in Feb

[IPC]

The last time the PBA said we have their full support we got the TNT guys and Soyud. Would we be able to win these 3 games with those players? Considering we also don't have Heading, Tamayo etc back in Feb

Honestly, medical certificates from 3rd-party doctors should be required so injuries can't be used as an excuse to decline a call-up.

Personal reasons should also be used on a case-to-case basis.

There should really be a policy that if you're called up and you have no legit medical or personal reasons, you're deemed to have accepted the call-up. Force the players to play for the flag.

[digitalsuperman]

The pro vets don't necessarily have to come from PBA,
Clarkson, Thirdy and Kiefer (assuming not in PBA)
would suffice

BTW that is model (getting players from overseas leagues) that is more commonly used by good national teams.

Players playing overseas actually have more experience in FIBA level type of ball

at this point we can just focus on the development of the young guys. we don't need the PBA players now anyway the target is 2023 and 2027? development is more important now.
and to those people who are thirsting to have PBA backed gilas, then probably they can wait after 2023 when maybe the pba takes over the national team program and we go back to the hugot system and the 1 week practice before the tournament.

[digitalsuperman]

The last time the PBA said we have their full support we got the TNT guys and Soyud. Would we be able to win these 3 games with those players? Considering we also don't have Heading, Tamayo etc back in Feb

getting players from the pba need to jump many hoops. you need to have the approval of the board even if they are from MVP teams.

[Labradoodle]

at this point we can just focus on the development of the young guys. we don't need the PBA players now anyway the target is 2023 and 2027? development is more important now.
and to those people who are thirsting to have PBA backed gilas, then probably they can wait after 2023 when maybe the pba takes over the national team program and we go back to the hugot system and the 1 week practice before the tournament.

Just give the SEA games to the PBA. Even without practice, they'll probably win. Lol

[thatweirdguy]

getting players from the pba need to jump many hoops. you need to have the approval of the board even if they are from MVP teams.

That's partly what I meant. All those bruhaha and the best they can lend us are those guys which we probably didn't even need against Korea. Honestly would you play them over our young guys?

[Labradoodle]

at this point we can just focus on the development of the young guys. we don't need the PBA players now anyway the target is 2023 and 2027? development is more important now.
and to those people who are thirsting to have PBA backed gilas, then probably they can wait after 2023 when maybe the pba takes over the national team program and we go back to the hugot system and the 1 week practice before the tournament.

Just give the SEA games to the PBA. Even without practice, they'll probably win. Lol

[thatweirdguy]

This could be our starting line up last Feb:
PG - Kiefer
SG - Pogoy
SF - Ramos
PF - Troy
C- Kai

I think we can 1-1 vs Korea then we will win vs Indonesia... Or maybe Tab will put Pogoy at 6th man then Baltazar and Troy will play 3 & 4 position simultaneously..

I'd honestly rather have Tamayo over Troy, Chiu over Soyud and Lopez over Pogoy. Those guys would never had the chance if the games went ahead last Feb.

[Bonifacio]

The pro vets don't necessarily have to come from PBA,
Clarkson, Thirdy and Kiefer (assuming not in PBA)
would suffice

BTW that is model (getting players from overseas leagues) that is more commonly used by good national teams.

Players playing overseas actually have more experience in FIBA level type of ball

I think it will become necessary for political reasons between SBP and PBA. As Gilas becomes more successful, I dont think PBA will sit idle and become irrelevant in the 2023 World Cup. They may even force Gilas to take a few players which they consider the face of PBA.

[JAMSKIE]

Just give the SEA games to the PBA. Even without practice, they'll probably win. Lol

Agree. Let coach Tim Cone handle the PBA-select team with a nucleus of Junmar, CStand, Tenorio, Matt Wright, "Super Ubo" Lassiter, Japeth, Gregy Slaughter, Pringle, and you've got some sort of built-in cohesion right there since those are the holdovers of the 2019 SEA Games Gilas team & of course you got several Ginebra players in there. A 2-week preparation period would be good enough.

[JAMSKIE]

Guess Jimmy Alapag agrees with the necessity of PBA help come 2023: https://tiebreakertimes.com.ph/tbt/a...rld-cup/211625

However, he also agrees that the players should fit in Tab's system, and are able to pass on knowledge and experience.

The PBA has to cooperate by making all players available and ending or pausing the season at least 2 months (meaning 60 days) before the tournament proper. Tab might get more leverage if he makes at least the FIBA Asia quarters or even semis with an all-amateur team. Hopefully he does make it, not only for the good of the program, but to lessen the reliance on the PBA for talent if the league, teams, and players still refuse to cooperate.

With PBA giving its players 60 days to train with Gilas, I say coach Tab only gets 3 to 4 PBA players, and that's it. If Jordan Clarkson is on board, hindi na natin kailangan ng maraming PBA players to reinforce the squad. I say Kiefer, Pogoy, Matt Wright (I would like Parks but his Parks' attitude would be detrimental to the team) & maybe Almazan.

[mathematicianrcg]

With the way things are developing. Gilas National Team especially after 2023 would probably composed of:

1. Most Filams/Fil Foreigners/ Duap Citizens or whatever technical term you want to call it.

2. Most Played in International Leagues.

1:

Homegrown would probably only Kai, Tamayo, Balti,maybe Thirdy and Lopez. ( Prospects such as Basti Reyes depends on their development)

Dual Citizens will dominate the pool such as: Dwight, Heading, Tuffin, Amoses Edus, Harris, Harper, Tobias, deliaños, and other future newly discovered Fil Foreigners. Even if u add pba, Matthew Wright and Ray Parks will be considered.

2:

For the second point. Most of them, If NOT ALL, would have been played overseas.

Nbl Australia, NBL, New Zealand, US NCAA, Japan B League are the leagues we are exporting our players. Only euroleague or any euopean league are not yet explored by our players.

CONCLUSION:

1. FIL FOREIGN/DUAL CITIZEN PLAYERS ARE GENERALLY BETTER BASKETBALL PLAYERS THAN THEIR LOCAL HOMEGROWN COUNTERPARTS.

2. OUR BEST LOCALS/HOMEGROWN CAN COMPETE FOR THE SPOT IF THEY PLAY OVERSEAS.

OFC, THERE WILL BE EXEMPTIONS. BUT GENERALLY, THIS WILL BE TRUE. MAYBE IN 2027.

[lurklurk]

With PBA giving its players 60 days to train with Gilas, I say coach Tab only gets 3 to 4 PBA players, and that's it. If Jordan Clarkson is on board, hindi na natin kailangan ng maraming PBA players to reinforce the squad. I say Kiefer, Pogoy, Matt Wright (I would like Parks but his Parks' attitude would be detrimental to the team) & maybe Almazan.

Parks played exceptionally well under Tab’s number 1 disciple. Dickel even used parks as focal point of his offense, ahead of both castro and pogoy.

[lurklurk]

With the way things are developing. Gilas National Team especially after 2023 would probably composed of:

1. Most Filams/Fil Foreigners/ Duap Citizens or whatever technical term you want to call it.

2. Most Played in International Leagues.

1:

Homegrown would probably only Kai, Tamayo, Balti,maybe Thirdy and Lopez. ( Prospects such as Basti Reyes depends on their development)

Dual Citizens will dominate the pool such as: Dwight, Heading, Tuffin, Amoses Edus, Harris, Harper, Tobias, deliaños, and other future newly discovered Fil Foreigners. Even if u add pba, Matthew Wright and Ray Parks will be considered.

2:

For the second point. Most of them, If NOT ALL, would have been played overseas.

Nbl Australia, NBL, New Zealand, US NCAA, Japan B League are the leagues we are exporting our players. Only euroleague or any euopean league are not yet explored by our players.

CONCLUSION:

1. FIL FOREIGN/DUAL CITIZEN PLAYERS ARE GENERALLY BETTER BASKETBALL PLAYERS THAN THEIR LOCAL HOMEGROWN COUNTERPARTS.

2. OUR BEST LOCALS/HOMEGROWN CAN COMPETE FOR THE SPOT IF THEY PLAY OVERSEAS.

OFC, THERE WILL BE EXEMPTIONS. BUT GENERALLY, THIS WILL BE TRUE. MAYBE IN 2027.

Imma stop you right there. Racism na yan (reverse). Learn to differentiate.