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  • Originally posted by astigram04
    Second guessing Tab's 12 to me is just a game of predictions. We aren't even sure how much of the choices will be from him and how much of it will come from the Headcoach himself. I'm more interested to to see each one's personal choices
    Katuwaan lang bro... Maybe a Prize for someone who get all the 12 in 2023..Aside of course for bragging rights of seeing in from his magic ball

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    • Originally posted by astigram04
      Well, if one gets exactly the same 12, i won't mind donating a good portion of a month's salary for his prize. Very tough one to make, yeah, deserves a prize
      Yah exactly..Coreectly predicting the Perfect 12 , three years before it happens is a feat... Maybe we can have a contribute some amount like(1,000/5,000) as pot money and whoever's who gets perfect 12 ,gets it all

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      • Originally posted by sajubeads View Post
        Yah exactly..Coreectly predicting the Perfect 12 , three years before it happens is a feat... Maybe we can have a contribute some amount like(1,000/5,000) as pot money and whoever's who gets perfect 12 ,gets it all
        I’m willing to chip in but I wouldn’t bother “submitting an entry”. Analyzed should give some as well the fact that he started it, if it’s ok with him. I volunteer to handle the fund until pay time. Lol
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        • Hahahaha. I will not join in the bet.What happens if no one got it. Haha.

          That is close to imposibble to guess.

          Why????

          Because I feel in 2023, we will discover more eligible ready players. And some "lessen" of Hagop rules.

          That said , I am willing to bet that Kai and AJ will be in final 12 of 2023.

          The only problem is Injuries.

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          • Originally posted by sajubeads View Post
            Katuwaan lang bro... Maybe a Prize for someone who get all the 12 in 2023..Aside of course for bragging rights of seeing in from his magic ball
            Yes it's like sports betting in Las Vegas, it's all about probability (likely hood of happening) rather than preference
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            • BTW speaking of Tab learned something new with how hhe thinks, - there is no difference between a SG and SF, so if MJ is his choice as best SG it is also his choice for best SF! In other words JC is our best SF as well as SG

              In also means are SG should be able to defend FIBA SF and vise versa SF need speed of to switch defend SG(all important switchability or else it's hard to get PT)

              Not suprising JC, Thirdy, Dwight are likely SG/SF wings

              Which is seperate from combo guards.
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              • Originally posted by analyzed View Post
                BTW speaking of Tab learned something new with how hhe thinks, - there is no difference between a SG and SF, so if MJ is his choice as best SG it is also his choice for best SF! In other words JC is our best SF as well as SG

                In also means are SG should be able to defend FIBA SF and vise versa SF need speed of to switch defend SG(all important switchability or else it's hard to get PT)

                Not suprising JC, Thirdy, Dwight are likely SG/SF wings

                Which is seperate from combo guards.
                Classic Definition of Sg and SF are

                SG - Best Scorer in the team
                SF - Most Versatile Player in the team

                Well, if you have a player that can do both roles, then he is 2/3(You call it swing?), But they cannot playmake as good as the point guards

                If you have two players of that kind with enough height 6'6, then it will be great.

                Combo guards are different. It is 1/2. Can playmake and score. For ex. Alex Cabagnot is a combo guard. Jason Castro is a combo guard. Bit they cannot play wing.

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                • Originally posted by analyzed View Post
                  Hmm.. Just to clarify it's not my preference but more likely

                  Kiefer
                  Thirdy
                  Ramos
                  Clarkson
                  Kouame ( do note the special assistant to Al, Gregorio picked him and Clarkson as his dream 5 (I see one of them getting exempted)
                  AJ
                  KAI
                  Troy (can never have enough length and shooters - even if he just plays a bench role
                  Kobe (I've seen players take a turn when coached by Tab

                  I'm unsure really of the rest, I imagine a pure shooter being added (Tuffin, Bulanadi, 1GDL? B
                  Parks to me fits, I just have a strange feeling on how Tab views him

                  No discredit to Oftana, I just haven't seen enough of him
                  Not sure Baltazar will be available full time which is a deal breaker
                  Won't be surprise if Go included for his attitude as well as Matt Nieto (11th, 12th men - not suggesting they're talented

                  I've got a feeling a big forward ineligible player will be added (one of these fil foreigners are bound to be included - don't know who yet

                  Sorry I don't have a definite list (daya I know)

                  Of course this is under the assumption Tab is still program director
                  BTW speaking of Tab learned something new with how hhe thinks, - there is no difference between a SG and SF, so if MJ is his choice as best SG it is also his choice for best SF! In other words JC is our best SF as well as SG
                  I'm intrigue with the big Forward ineligible who would it be? Quintin Millora Brown, Orme-Malonzo , Christian David?

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                  • Originally posted by sajubeads View Post
                    I'm intrigue with the big Forward ineligible who would it be? Quintin Millora Brown, Orme-Malonzo , Christian David?
                    Either QMB or Hepa..
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                    • Originally posted by mathematicianrcg View Post
                      Classic Definition of Sg and SF are

                      SG - Best Scorer in the team
                      SF - Most Versatile Player in the team

                      Well, if you have a player that can do both roles, then he is 2/3(You call it swing?), But they cannot playmake as good as the point guards

                      If you have two players of that kind with enough height 6'6, then it will be great.

                      Combo guards are different. It is 1/2. Can playmake and score. For ex. Alex Cabagnot is a combo guard. Jason Castro is a combo guard. Bit they cannot play wing.
                      Like combo forward is way different from a swingmen - he is 3/4. They might undersized to play the 4 or too slow to play the 3 but has the qualities of both forward positions (e.g. RDO, Troy, Kobe, WillNav).
                      Attack
                      defend
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                      • Again value is when you can guard multiple positions, switchiness. This will keep you on the court. So if you're a wing and have the length to guard SF as well as the speed to guard shooting guards you will play. That is why Kobe can't play as wing in FIBA, can't guard, SGs, too slow
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                        • Originally posted by analyzed View Post
                          Again value is when you can guard multiple positions, switchiness. This will keep you on the court. So if you're a swing and have the length to guard SF as well as the speed to guard shooting guards you will play
                          This is a big issue with us right now. Most of our players are too used to guarding just their position. Classic basketball. Coaches have to train their players on the value of switchability.

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                          • These are various hybrid positions in basketball:

                            Combo guard - Players that can play both 1/2 positions

                            Swingman - Players that can play 2/3 positions

                            Combo forward - Players that can play 3/4

                            Bigman - Players that can play 4/5

                            Stretch 4/shooting forward - Players that play the 4 with shooting like those of the 2.

                            Point forward - Players that play either or both 3 or 4 point positions but has the capability to play the 1.

                            Stretch 5 - Players that play the 5 but has shooting capability.

                            Unicorn - Players that play the bigman (4/5) but has guard abilities.
                            Attack
                            defend
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                            • BTW this discussion on predicting likely 2023 players to be selected is also useful as it explains the logic on why Tab would possibly select player in the final 12.


                              Take for example Matt and Go as possible 11th and 12th men, these are glue locker room guys, and will do exactly what Tab want of them, as they understand what is expected of their role (even if it is a cheerleader like Myles Leonard and not complain)

                              Here is another example, if there are plans to get an exemption for Kouame, then you can see the logic to use NP role on SG/SF Clarkson, instead on a 5/4 NP

                              Also the logic on having length in the backcourt. As well as wings who can defend both SG and SF (Thirdy, Dwight)

                              As well as 4s who can guard stretch 4s (Kobe, Troy)
                              Last edited by analyzed; 10-10-2020, 04:37 AM.
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                              • Originally posted by analyzed View Post
                                BTW this discussion on predicting likely 2023 players to be selected is also useful as it explains the logic on why Tab would possibly select player in the final 12.


                                Take for example Matt and Go as possible 11th and 12th men, these are glue locker room guys, and will do exactly what Tab want of them, as they understand what is expected of their role (even if it is a cheerleader like Myles Leonard and not complain)

                                Here is another example, if there are plans to get an exemption for Kouame, then you can see the logic to use NP role on SG/SF Clarkson, instead on a 5/4 NP

                                Also the logic on having length in the backcourt. As well as wings who can defend both SG and SF (Thirdy, Dwight)

                                As well as 4s who can guard stretch 4s (Kobe, Troy)
                                I have a feeling though that Tab will be replaced before 2023 and as such the final line-up in 2023 will not be the same players that Tab will likely choose. I think Tab will be replaced by a filipino but they will get an experienced international coach.

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