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  • Originally posted by IPC View Post
    Tapos he's spent most of last season playing against 4's. Let's see how Beda experiments next season whether he'll be put at 3 or maybe even 2.
    SAN Beda's Dept Chart

    C: Carino, Cuntapay, VIsser
    PF: Oftana, Bahio, Andrada
    SF: Amsahli, Abuda, Sanchez
    SG: Canlas, Ynot
    PG: Penuela,Alfaro, Etrata

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    • Originally posted by sajubeads View Post
      SAN Beda's Dept Chart

      C: Carino, Cuntapay, VIsser
      PF: Oftana, Bahio, Andrada
      SF: Amsahli, Abuda, Sanchez
      SG: Canlas, Ynot
      PG: Penuela,Alfaro, Etrata
      I think Amsali will play behind Oftana at 3. Bahio will be their 4.

      Let's see what Boyet does.

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      • Originally posted by TrueBluePinoy View Post
        Would be best if you forward tapes of Oftana to Tab if he's still not aware. Maybe even convince him to take a Master's course in Ateneo.
        I don't think it will get to that, he has a lot of scouts, Oftana is a can't miss, but yeah if he's not mentioned I'll be the 1st to ask what about Oftana? LOL
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        • These are the positions the following players have played for (90 % ) of the time in the last 2 years . Do note FIBA international competition in terms of reps exposure is limited ( 2 week top competition a yr) , it's really in your mother team that you learn and develop familarity for a position.

          Center : Kai , AJ (Toledo) , Tamayo
          PF: Kobe (UP), Troy, Oftana
          big wing- Thirdy, Dwight
          SG- JC (NBA) , CJ
          PG- Kiefer

          *note Dwight and Parks (12) can be secondary playmakers of the wing position
          That's 12 players with an average height of 6'6 all playing in natural position (not new position having to adjust)

          Kouame & Baltazar are alternatives to Tamayo

          We can envision all we want what position players will be in 2023 and that's fine , i'm just saying the above is their experience and reps.. Do note even if a player plays say 4 , but is really more a wing, that isn't a problem especially if the proposed system is to play 4 out ( four perimeter players) - This isn't unusual at all in the modern game , majority of the NBA finishes games with basically 4 perimeter players.
          Last edited by analyzed; 08-31-2020, 01:46 AM.
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          • Originally posted by carmelo7 View Post
            Im going off-topic but Analyzed what do you think is the ceiling of Mason Amos? I've seen some hghlights but im really curious on his upside TIA
            i don't really like discussing in a public forum people i know ( baka makita ng parents - lagot na lol) ,, but obviously a 6'7 16 year old who shoots very well is rare for the Philippines
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            • Originally posted by IPC View Post
              I think Amsali will play behind Oftana at 3. Bahio will be their 4.

              Let's see what Boyet does.
              For spot minutes maybe, but CBF played Oftana mostly as PF and more so now that there is no FSA already...Itbwould be goof if Bahio will be given PT also

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              • Originally posted by analyzed View Post
                i don't really like discussing in a public forum people i know ( baka makita ng parents - lagot na lol) ,, but obviously a 6'7 16 year old who shoots very well is rare for the Philippines
                Hahahaha That's okay but I agree, with his combination of size (esp if he ends up being 6'8- 6'9 at least) & attributes what a gem for Gilas indeed

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                • Originally posted by sajubeads View Post
                  SAN Beda's Dept Chart

                  C: Carino, Cuntapay, VIsser
                  PF: Oftana, Bahio, Andrada
                  SF: Amsahli, Abuda, Sanchez
                  SG: Canlas, Ynot
                  PG: Penuela,Alfaro, Etrata
                  San Beda has a new Fil-Am recruit from Hawaii. 6'0-6'1 Dan Villejo who plays the 1 and 2. Villejo played more minutes than Etrata in the last PCCL.

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                  • Originally posted by sajubeads View Post
                    For spot minutes maybe, but CBF played Oftana mostly as PF and more so now that there is no FSA already...Itbwould be goof if Bahio will be given PT also
                    In the last PCCL where San Beda placed 2nd behind Ateneo, we already saw coach Boyet utilizing a big frontcourt with Carino at C, Bahio at PF and Oftana at SF. The victories over Letran, UST and UP were a testament where coach Boyet used this frontcourt trio for a number of times.

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                    • Originally posted by hmbopbaduwap View Post
                      Carl Tamayo’s Gilas Cadets highlights

                      Playing for the "23 for 2023" cadet team/pool in the 2018 Fil-oil Flying-V Preseason Cup was the first time I saw Carl Tamayo's game. The thing that really caught my attention was his ability to dribble drive against a set-up defense & I was really impressed. I think he made a good account of himself in that tournament to think that he was only 17 at that time & was still in high school (I think he & Kai Sotto were the only high school players to play for the cadet team in that college preseason tournament). But judging from his quickness & mobility at that time, I had a feeling that his natural position is the "four" spot.
                      "A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV

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                      • Originally posted by analyzed View Post
                        i don't really like discussing in a public forum people i know ( baka makita ng parents - lagot na lol) ,, but obviously a 6'7 16 year old who shoots very well is rare for the Philippines
                        shoot & dribble

                        I would be very happy if Mason Amos ends up as a poorman version of Danny Seigle offensively.

                        I say offensively becoz as we all know, Danny Seigle wasn't good in defense. A poorman version of Danny Seigle in offense but with better defense than Seigle with be good enough for Amos, in my opinion.
                        "A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV

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                        • Originally posted by robert0326
                          Why he didn't use that in the finals of NCAA vs Letran? They could beat them if they use that line up
                          6'1-6'2 Clint Doliguez was the resident starting SF. Doliguez was also the team's resident and prime perimeter defender that season. And his marchup is Letran's starting SF Jeric Balanza..

                          Again in the PCCL stint coach Boyet only used Oftana as the SF on few ocassions. The close win agsinst UP we saw coach Boyet reverting back Oftana in the 4 in the closing minutes.

                          Oftana's natural position is the 4. He can slide to the 3. Those are the positions that Oftana can play. But playing the 2 is far fetched already.

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                          • Originally posted by The_Big_Cat View Post
                            San Beda has a new Fil-Am recruit from Hawaii. 6'0-6'1 Dan Villejo who plays the 1 and 2. Villejo played more minutes than Etrata in the last PCCL.
                            Sir. I have read somewhere that this Villejo kid is already 21 to 22 years old? Can you confirm po? For how long will he be eligible sa NCAA?

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                            • Originally posted by IPC View Post
                              I think Amsali will play behind Oftana at 3. Bahio will be their 4.

                              Let's see what Boyet does.
                              I like the thought of Amshali and Oftana playing together as 3 and 2.Amshali playing small forward and Oftana could play 2.
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                              • Originally posted by The_Big_Cat View Post

                                Oftana's natural position is the 4.
                                He can slide to the 3. Those are the positions that Oftana can play. But playing the 2 is far fetched already.
                                I agree Oftana's natural position is 4, that where he can use his speed and versatility as an advantage over slower 4's , while he has a skill set to play some SF that is not his natural position, fans do not fully understand and appreciate natural inclination , the spaces on the floor and running lanes are quite different when you're playing the 4 (even as a stretch 4) from playing the wing, Oftana simply does not have the exposure and reps playing as a wing full time. ( he may have the skill set but not the natural inclination)
                                Play players in the position they've played the most (which of course is in their mother team , not FIBA which is short periods and inadequate to get natural second nature familarity, the same goes for everyone like AJ playing attacking stretch of the dribble 4 (he does not have the reps to do this) , to highlight this ,how many 3 point attempts has AJ taken on average per game? to be a true stretch 4, he should be taking at least around 4 or 5 , threes a game, if you look in his career in Toledo he's avg less than one 3 pt attempt a game. ( you cannot get natural stretch 4 inclination with that exposure and lack of reps)
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