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  • Originally posted by tomcat View Post
    SJ Belangel is also an option in the pg department. For me he is the better playmaker and 3 point shooter than JGDL..
    I would go for Panopio first before Belangel

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    • Im just wondering, serious question; why is no one thinking of putting Parks in their predictions or mock lineups? He is our only player to play in some sort of NBA level competition (before Kai of course). A tall PG like Parks is what our National Team is looking for diba? He can fill in different positions. High IQ and everything. Just posted MVP/Import like numbers too in just 2 conferences that had imports. I really believe that Parks is a better option than Kiefer.

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      • Gilas 2023 wishlist
        PG Ray Parks Jr. 6’4
        SG Jordan Clarkson 6’5
        SF Troy Rosario 6’7
        PF AJ Edu 6’11
        C Kai 7’2
        PG CJ Perez 6’2
        SG Thirdy Ravena 6’3
        SF Kobe Paras 6’6
        PF Ange Kouame 6’11
        C Junemar Fajardo 6’10
        G/F Lebron Lopez 6’6
        F/C JP Erram 6’8

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        • Originally posted by astigram04
          Kai sotto (5,4)
          Aj Edu (4,5,3)
          Junmar (5)
          Kouame (5,4)
          CJ Perez (2,1)
          Remy Martin (1)
          Bollick (1,2)
          Paras (3,2)
          Naturalized (3,4)
          These 9 players will form the core and the last 3 slots, we can go with any of the following

          Lopez (3)
          Ildefonso (2,1,3)
          Michael Phillips (3,4)
          Sage Tolentino (3,4,5)
          Abando (2,3)
          Ramos (2,1,3)

          I excluded filfors who are said to have no chance of playing as locals.

          Will include parks if he expresses desire to represent.
          Yes, this is an international grade pool with enough talented young players for testing against tough hombres.

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          • Originally posted by astigram04
            Kai sotto (5,4)
            Aj Edu (4,5,3)
            Junmar (5)
            Kouame (5,4)
            CJ Perez (2,1)
            Remy Martin (1)
            Bollick (1,2)
            Paras (3,2)
            Naturalized (3,4)
            These 9 players will form the core and the last 3 slots, we can go with any of the following

            Lopez (3)
            Ildefonso (2,1,3)
            Michael Phillips (3,4)
            Sage Tolentino (3,4,5)
            Abando (2,3)
            Ramos (2,1,3)

            I excluded filfors who are said to have no chance of playing as locals.

            Will include parks if he expresses desire to represent.

            If Clarkson gets the green light, I would love to have a starting five of:

            Clarkson-Perez-Paras-McCollough-Sotto

            back by:

            Martin-Raven(T)-Rosario-Edu-Fajardo

            11th and 12th:

            Ravena(K) and Parks

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            • Yes Parks should be considered
              NBTC- Team New Zealand - Camp David: vision "To provide a basketball Pathway for Filipino Kids in NZ while building men of character and leadership. I can do all things ...
              https://www.facebook.com/teamNZBasketball/

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              • i think remy martin's and clarkson's eligibility status are the same, can someone correct me on this? thanks

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                • Let me just say the longer Martin plays outside the Philippines and Gilas, and into his 20's the door closes more and more (Becoming more Pringle, than Wright/Spencer)
                  NBTC- Team New Zealand - Camp David: vision "To provide a basketball Pathway for Filipino Kids in NZ while building men of character and leadership. I can do all things ...
                  https://www.facebook.com/teamNZBasketball/

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                  • Originally posted by astigram04
                    Kai sotto (5,4)
                    Aj Edu (4,5,3)
                    Junmar (5)
                    Kouame (5,4)
                    CJ Perez (2,1)
                    Remy Martin (1)
                    Bollick (1,2)
                    Paras (3,2)
                    Naturalized (3,4)
                    These 9 players will form the core and the last 3 slots, we can go with any of the following

                    Lopez (3)
                    Ildefonso (2,1,3)
                    Michael Phillips (3,4)
                    Sage Tolentino (3,4,5)
                    Abando (2,3)
                    Ramos (2,1,3)

                    I excluded filfors who are said to have no chance of playing as locals.

                    Will include parks if he expresses desire to represent.
                    A good lineup indeed. I have to replace though a couple from the list. Oftana for Lopez and Baltazar for Phillips. Both Lopez and Phillips are still very young and we haven't really seen them play in a higher level of competition, not even college. I would not pit them against the best in the world come 2023.

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                    • Originally posted by qwertyz View Post
                      Im just wondering, serious question; why is no one thinking of putting Parks in their predictions or mock lineups? He is our only player to play in some sort of NBA level competition (before Kai of course). A tall PG like Parks is what our National Team is looking for diba? He can fill in different positions. High IQ and everything. Just posted MVP/Import like numbers too in just 2 conferences that had imports. I really believe that Parks is a better option than Kiefer.
                      Parks is not that good. There are other players that are on the rise and wants to make a name for themselves and of course give 100% to the National Team ( Perez, Thirdy, Kobe Paras etc. ). Parks is the complete opposite.

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                      • Originally posted by DenzelGreat8 View Post
                        Parks is not that good. There are other players that are on the rise and wants to make a name for themselves and of course give 100% to the National Team ( Perez, Thirdy, Kobe Paras etc. ). Parks is the complete opposite.
                        I wouldn’t say he’s “not that good”. He’s clearly good. I mean he wouldn’t play in the NBA summer league and burn some minutes in the G League if he wasn’t any good. He did post Really really good numbers last year in just 2 conferences.

                        But I see a common trend that he’s not willing to prove himself or commit to the National team. Which is a major turn off for the national team.

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                        • well, tnt management and coaching staff clearly made an effort to retain parks in their roster despite some initial resistance. could at least mean somthing, right?

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                          • Originally posted by qwertyz View Post
                            I wouldn’t say he’s “not that good”. He’s clearly good. I mean he wouldn’t play in the NBA summer league and burn some minutes in the G League if he wasn’t any good. He did post Really really good numbers last year in just 2 conferences.

                            But I see a common trend that he’s not willing to prove himself or commit to the National team. Which is a major turn off for the national team.
                            Bro, I'm not saying that he is a scrub or something. Of course the guy can play, and well yeah maybe he played in the summer league/ G league but who knows if he has connections in the states that's why he was able to be in the lineup. I mean just look at the eye test and compare Perez to Bobby Ray Parks, look at how far Perez's explosiveness and scoring ability compared to him.

                            Also, we already saw what a Ray Parks can do in the international setting (oqt, jones cup, sea games etc.) The guy just does not standout. So the expectations on him before that he will be somehow at least a Rasheim Wright-esque (jordan), it was very far from the reality.

                            Parks can post numbers on teams where he is heavily relied, but the efficiency of doing so is very poor. Gilas should move on from him since he does not have any skillset that stands out. If we are comparing him to Kiefer, at least Kiefer can show he can quarterback a Gilas team, and can give you some scoring in spurts. If in the sg position, I even doubt he will dislodge a shooter in Matt Wright and let alone a legit scoring combo guard in CJ Perez.

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                            • Originally posted by DenzelGreat8 View Post
                              Bro, I'm not saying that he is a scrub or something. Of course the guy can play, and well yeah maybe he played in the summer league/ G league but who knows if he has connections in the states that's why he was able to be in the lineup. I mean just look at the eye test and compare Perez to Bobby Ray Parks, look at how far Perez's explosiveness and scoring ability compared to him.

                              Also, we already saw what a Ray Parks can do in the international setting (oqt, jones cup, sea games etc.) The guy just does not standout. So the expectations on him before that he will be somehow at least a Rasheim Wright-esque (jordan), it was very far from the reality.

                              Parks can post numbers on teams where he is heavily relied, but the efficiency of doing so is very poor. Gilas should move on from him since he does not have any skillset that stands out. If we are comparing him to Kiefer, at least Kiefer can show he can quarterback a Gilas team, and can give you some scoring in spurts. If in the sg position, I even doubt he will dislodge a shooter in Matt Wright and let alone a legit scoring combo guard in CJ Perez.
                              1. I mean you shouldn’t make an assumption that the only reason he got to play in the G League and Summer League tas because of connection. He showed that he belongs and played quality minutes.

                              2. Yes Perez is ahead explosiveness wise and scoring wise. But that’s Perez’ strengths. Parks is more of a playmaking point forward. He likes to use his strength (6’4 215) against smaller PGs meanwhile Perez’ uses his explosiveness and quickness. You could make a point for either depending on the topic you’re talking about.

                              3. Yep we did see that he was SEABA MVP in 2015. Also a 3xABL MVP(higher level competition than SEA). He was also the local leading scorer for all games before the OQT. Before tab gave him the Norwood role which I believe he played all right. Facilitating and Defending.

                              4. Parks posting numbers on a team he is heavily relied on is a good thing right? I mean just shows that he is up for it. Just like Perez? Perez is posting good numbers. Only difference is Parks made the Playoffs at both of his PBA appearances (after selling most of their good players). Also BW was placed last in all conferences that Parks didn’t play for them. I think you’d be able to understand that trend.

                              5. Just my opinion I’d rather have Parks as my Point Guard internationally than Kiefer. Did you see how slow Kiefer was against Indonesia? With Parks’ length and strength. He’ll be able to play a couple more positions than most guys. He can show that if you trust him in playmaking he can take your team places.

                              Just my opinion bro.

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                              • Originally posted by astigram04
                                It wouldn't hurt to have younger players for the 11th and 12th spots. Looking at the present and the coming materials, we really need to invest on the wing position so I'll have either of lopes or Phillips. Baltaxar is a big man and those positions will be covered well if you have kai, aj, kouame, junmar and the naturalized player. Seen clips of oftana and tho he's skilled, he looks like he's just about 6'4 and he's not super athletic like paras.
                                He's more athletic than a lot of the guys in the pool

                                As for Parks, what I like about him is that he can play defense, he's 6'3/4 with a good build.He can be good at guarding pgs and sgs

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