Philippines Cadet/Developmental Team

[Sikatrix]

"What we're trying to do is to start to document and put in our database the best players around the world so we can start to recruit good players, move them to the Philippines and help our national team program" - Coach Norman Black

SBP did bring some of the big guns here with Coach Norman, RH Jr and Jamie Malonzo.

[JAMSKIE]

Guys, I just wanna ask, is this grassroots development program by SBP eh nagkataon lang na nangyari during the term of Erika Dy as SBP Executive Director? Or this program is a brainchild of Erika Dy herself?

[live_evil]

watch Josh Reyes waste all the effort of Norman Black, by forming a team with a 6-foot center.

[IPC]

Seems like the u16 to u18 teams exist out of compliance to FIBA and not for any other reason,

Someone finally said it.

2024 and still no grassroots program which we have been saying for the last 10 years.

And these teams are supposed to be our pipeline for future prospects for the senior team.

Since 2013, we have promoted just Kiefer, Thirdy, Matt and Mike Nieto, SJ, Carl, Kai, AJ, Juan GDL, Chiu, Carino, Mason, and Kobe.

We have to align the youth teams with the vision of Cone (and Tab before him) for the seniors. Look for tall wings and maybe guys tall enough to play 4 and 5. Guards with potential too. Dy and the new SBP President must make a point out of that.

[TheRodster21]

And these teams are supposed to be our pipeline for future prospects for the senior team.

Since 2013, we have promoted just Kiefer, Thirdy, Matt and Mike Nieto, SJ, Carl, Kai, AJ, Juan GDL, Chiu, Carino, Mason, and Kobe.

We have to align the youth teams with the vision of Cone (and Tab before him) for the seniors. Look for tall wings and maybe guys tall enough to play 4 and 5. Guards with potential too. Dy and the new SBP President must make a point out of that.

It’s hard to figure out who pans out or develops, some guys end up plateauing, injuries or other factors can lead to players not fulfilling potential. Of the list of names given few are senior mainstays and some probably won’t play for Gilas again. Standouts with clear potential like Kai, Aj and Carl are hard to find

[live_evil]

Sometimes, you don't need to find the special ones. You can create them through proper training and development which is farthest from the mind of that imbecile nepotism boy.

[ARMIR]

SBP did bring some of the big guns here with Coach Norman, RH Jr and Jamie Malonzo.

What about the special local ones?Why they don't have a program to exposed the kid to the US or Euro market?

[BJ_Reloaded]

SBP did bring some of the big guns here with Coach Norman, RH Jr and Jamie Malonzo.

Sir Sikat,

Ron Harper Jr?

were hoping they had a very fruitful meeting with the mother Maria Pizarro.

the two bros. are dreaming that they could play together one of these days.

SBP make it happen

as per official releases, the Philippine Consul Head(?) was also in attendance at that LV Camp.

[ARMIR]

watch Josh Reyes waste all the effort of Norman Black, by forming a team with a 6-foot center.

5'2-5'4 pgs.

[IPC]

Sir JOI,

participating in the yearly Jones Cup is still an important tourney for our basketball program specifically towards our grassroot development.

SGA could still be a major sponsor

Coach Charles Tiu is one of our competent young coaches nowadays but we have to be aware the issues about the "Pirates of the Caribbean".

and we don't want those local prospect to be hold by their respective schools because the so-called "baka mapirata eh mahirap na". trans. Coach E and Coach Franz

I think Coach Black Magic is the ideal coach for our youth team if SBP are not warm to hire a foreign coach with FIBA(youth) experience outside PHI

yes i agree brother, but i also agree with you that if ever we qualify next year in FIBA Asia Cup, the best preparation for gilas will be against European teams instead of Jones Cup, i am also all in for sending players that will be a potential part of the senior team in tournament such as Sea Games and even Asian games, we have already proven more than enough in the sea games let it be just a training ground for future senior team players the same with Asian games, i hope SBP will not fall into pressure of trying to win these tournaments anymore and just it for developing the younger players in a higher level of international competitions

Yeah, agreed with sir JOI2dWorld. Get a young team of players that have the potential to fit FIBA basketball. Do they have the skillset, the tools to play their FIBA position. Get a coach that can develop them to play their FIBA positions too so we have players won't be too undersized, too slow, or both.

Issue is, next year's SEA Games is in December. That means, that's after the end of UAAP and NCAA Finals. So we will need to get whoever's not there, maybe some PBA players too.

[IPC]

personally I think tryouts for batang gilas is just for formality. SBP does not put an effort to look at kids from provinces and small schools at the high school level.
All these kids pop out/emerge at the college level and make a name for themselves in UAAP & NCAA seniors, but at the juniors level only those who can afford Manila and Cebu (kids from ADMU, DLSZ, LSGH, UST, Letran, Sacred Heart, NU, Adamson) are given a shot at making RP Youth/Batang Gilas teams.

That's where Dy should be making an effort. Give local grassroots programs some support. Get some kids from the provinces, offer them support to go to Manila and Cebu. Set up scouting centers too per region, from I to XIII (as well as NCR, CAR, ARMM).

[paliganibossalfrancis]

That's where Dy should be making an effort. Give local grassroots programs some support. Get some kids from the provinces, offer them support to go to Manila and Cebu. Set up scouting centers too per region, from I to XIII (as well as NCR, CAR, ARMM).

What's sad is we have some real raw talent waiting to be discovered, who are better than boys playing in exclusive schools (Xavier, LSGH, AHS) and they end up nowhere just because they weren't given the opportunity. Boys from UAAP/NCAA/Exclusive schools play organized basketball in their youth, while more capable/talented boys from lower socioeconomic brackets play unorganized larong kalye. Can't blame bashers on Tiktok for their comments on the U17 World Cup Batang Gilas team. The head coach and some players don't deserve to be there repping the flag

[BJ_Reloaded]

Yeah, agreed with sir JOI2dWorld. Get a young team of players that have the potential to fit FIBA basketball. Do they have the skillset, the tools to play their FIBA position. Get a coach that can develop them to play their FIBA positions too so we have players won't be too undersized, too slow, or both.

Issue is, next year's SEA Games is in December. That means, that's after the end of UAAP and NCAA Finals. So we will need to get whoever's not there, maybe some PBA players too.

Sir IPC,

AK34 and Benny are highly recommended esp. to Ange for obvious reason hopefully their future club team outside the PBA may allow them in a way hoping it's off-season.

FIBA ineligbles like Balunggay, Datu, Barefield, Laput, Lucero among others can be considered.

as for the collegiate rank QMB(one & done), KQ and Motor Mike are highly recommended, hopefully they will be permitted.

[IPC]

i just noticed our players are getting smaller again tbh. built and height wise. and they aren't that good. skill wise they're subpar, wanna-be nonchalant NBA players. very short shorts, dancing like a woman on TikTok instead of working on their game.
It's very alarming the best in 2024 batch is Gemao and Alas. They're not even physically imposing or noteworthy or as promising as previous prospects like Kobe Paras.

our Golden generation is really Tamayo Kai Aj Edu Dave KQ Ildefonso era. It will be extremely hard our young local players to match what they have accomplished in their careers.

I guess back to over relying on Fil-foreign recruitment again. Grassroots and HS basketball coaches are slacking.

If what you say is true, that's concerning for the future of our NT. Dy will need to ramp up the programs for homegrowns.

[Metta]

I've been involved with youth training for more than ten years. This is what I think is the crux of the problem...

We keep throwing around the word "raw" like it's something easily fixed at an advanced age. Well it's not, especially if we aim to produce world-level prospects.

It's not the fault of "exclusive" schools, it goes way beyond and way earlier than that. While raw in other countries means a prospect who lacks skill, in our case, raw usually means a kid who can barely run and jump properly. A root cause of this is a lack of a youth sports culture.

Kids as young as 5 should already be doing some type of sport or physical activity where they are required to run, jump, catch, throw, maneuver, etc. It's important that they do this way before they have their growth spurts and before all the wiring in their brains are done. Doing multiple sports is even better.

A vibrant youth sports culture is not left up to exclusive schools or the government or some other higher being, it is something where the community should be the driving force. In other countries, it is volunteers from families and communities who are the most active at this stage. At around the age of 5, we don't need highly-qualified coaches or trainers. Kids just have to play, have fun and at the same time develop their bodies physically. If kids are properly exposed physically at younger ages, they carry that athleticism later on and their upside becomes higher. Specialization should be at around high school age.

Our extremely tall prospects are so rare and it is baffling how up to now we keep wasting them by not being proactive early. Wemby has been doing plyo, yoga, juggling, skills training, etc way before his teenage years. Of course it's easier to blame schools, the government or whoever. But the harsh truth is, we as a community are also to be blamed.