Philippines Cadet/Developmental Team

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Basti's reportedly with Letran, as per Enzo Flojo: https://twitter.com/hoopnut/status/1...yf9AwOPAw&s=19

Well, that's big news for him. In the juniors, I think the Squires could lend, like in the case of Joshua Ramirez. However, the seniors team is a different story. Hope he can be made available for Gilas.

Hopefully, he'll be used like a wing and not a traditional stretch 4.

He is most likely to play 4. Or even 5. I am not sure on yhe roster of Letran. But would probably play as a 4.

What Kind of 4 is the question

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He is most likely to play 4. Or even 5. I am not sure on yhe roster of Letran. But would probably play as a 4.

What Kind of 4 is the question

So far, the Squires have 6'6" Drex delos Reyes as a center, if I remember correctly. Basti would probably play 4 or 5 in Letran.

You're right, what kind of 4 is the question. Would it be a small ball 4, like a wing, ala Calvin Oftana, Javi GDL, Will Navarro, or a traditional stretch 4 like Caperal, Isaac Go, Troy Rosario, and probably even Jeo Ambohot?

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Lebron Lopez

Caelum Harris

Basti Reyes

Femi Edu

Luke Tobias

Their development will be big on future Wing Spots for Gilas.

Their Shooting needs improvement. But their height, physical tools, and defense potential are right there.

[IPC]

lol Development in the Philippines is basically “develop yourself”.

Everything here is about finished products and how to market them. It’s what led to the proliferation of Fil-Ams in the PBA because they had better development programs in the US compared to here.

Yeah, sad to see that that's a common case. However, like I said, some high schools can develop their kids for international competition, like what Ateneo and Beda have been doing.

That said, some kids really depend on their own work ethic. I think even our taller forwards, like in the case of Javi GDL, have to work themselves. I reckon tall guys like Kobe Demisana, Basti Reyes, Ramon Salvoro, and Adrian Sollano developed perimeter skills on their own. Tamayo and Quiambao were lucky to have Goldwyn Monteverde to prepare them to play combo forward, and Baltazar had Tab do the same for him.

Sucks that our best bet for international-level prospect lie in a few programs or our players' work ethic.

[IPC]

OQT:

C Biligha 6'7
F Gallinari 6'10
F Datome 6'8
G Hackett 6'6
G Bellinelli 6'5

OQT:

C Melli 6'9
F Polonara 6'9
F Moraschini 6'5
G Tonut 6'4
G Mannion 6'2

below average height-wise. the playbook of Italy is basically the same playbook of TNT. the main difference is that the Italians have the combination of length and skills to fill their roles plus their bigs are not just confined in the dunk spot. there is a set of plays dedicated for them.

in defense, Italians are somewhat similar to Tab's Gilas.

Here is the highlights of Achille Polonara against Serbia. You can see some glimpse on how he was used in that game.

I think we could use Italy as a model to develop young players, especially their forwards. If we can get as many 6'5"-6'7" players to play like Gallo or Polonara, we might see some progress, and more international-sized small-ball lineups.

We have promising players around that size, and some of those guys show promise of perimeter play. Maybe we could approximate.

[IPC]

A basketball federation should have a general offensive system taught at all levels from 1st year high school onwards, the offensive schemes NZ (flow) have are taught at the high school level and city rep system, that is why whoever is promoted to the senior level does not start from zero, furthermore it forces all players regardless of height or position to learn basic skills ( shooting and moving without the ball) . It seems like in the Philippines players have to adopt and learn a new system every time they have a new coach or team . And there so much just standing around unless a play is called. (essentially there is no flow) and if there are plays the movement of the players isn't really fluid , very stagnant

it may help if players play net ball ( no dribble basketball) or soccer so they appreciate spatial awareness and when to cut. most seem to be orinted with 3x3 type of basketball, where it's really stationary , with iso and all movement is only on strong side , not weak

if the game is taught this way , it's essentially position less and there actually no low post ( but high handoffs) so everyone has to shoot and know how dribble and know how to cut .. rather than everyone being a Russel Westbrook LOL

I've also been advocating for a positionless basketball at the youth levels. Everyone has to play in the perimeter, so that taller players would have an easier time adjusting to perimeter positions.

And agreed on the ball and player movement part. This is what I'd hoped would be integrated into the youth team. In my case, add defense to the list. We need an identity, and it starts at the youth level. Pero it seems that we're still gonna find it until SBP wakes the fuck up.

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I've also been advocating for a positionless basketball at the youth levels. Everyone has to play in the perimeter, so that taller players would have an easier time adjusting to perimeter positions.

And agreed on the ball and player movement part. This is what I'd hoped would be integrated into the youth team. In my case, add defense to the list. We need an identity, and it starts at the youth level. Pero it seems that we're still gonna find it until SBP wakes the fuck up.

basketball australia has one system from youth to boomers level..

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I think we can all agree that players are not the problem.

Like Coach Tab said, I think Filipino Players Talentwise can potentially be top 15 in the world.

But it is the development side and sports politics system that we need

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I think we can all agree that players are not the problem.

Like Coach Tab said, I think Filipino Players Talentwise can potentially be top 15 in the world.

But it is the development side and sports politics system that we need

Lol. If we speak about talent, PH couldn’t even produced homegrown filipinos to play US-NCAA D1 or basketball academy abroad and some of you we’re dreaming to be top15 in the world though.

Talo pa din talaga tayo ng China, Japan and Korea and the powerhouse middle-arab countries when it comes to development.


And also, we couldn’t even produce consistent shooters ala-caidic. It’s always gilas problem. Lol

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Lol. If we speak about talent, PH couldn’t even produced homegrown filipinos to play US-NCAA D1 or basketball academy abroad and some of you we’re dreaming to be top15 in the world though.

Talo pa din talaga tayo ng China, Japan and Korea and the powerhouse middle-arab countries when it comes to development.


And also, we couldn’t even produce consistent shooters ala-caidic. It’s always gilas problem. Lol

Honestly, we can't produce off-ball players that can shoot ala Caidic, Heading, Chan. We barely see those kind of players in the homegrown scene. Yeah, we have Suerte, who can cut, then Bulanadi and Abando, but not much else. Plus, few can shoot in the FIBA scene like Caidic, Heading, and Chan.

And development, man. Bigs, lamang natin sa development kaysa Japan and SoKor, e. But wings and forwards, we still have a ways to go.

Kailangan talaga systemic change dito, e.

[IPC]

Been looking at Jeff Chan highlights.

After looking at them, I'm asking, why aren't more shooters emulating Jeff Chan? As in, not just spot-ups and stepbacks, but shooting on the move, off the catch, moving great off the ball.

Honestly, I wanna see more homegrowns emulate Jeff Chan. For scorers, having Jeff Chan's arsenal would add another threat.

[DAdmiral]

Ken Tuffin, who learned to shoot in FEU

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Ken Tuffin, who learned to shoot in FEU

So, we have the likes of Tuffin, Bulanadi, Abando, Suerte as 23-26 year old homegrowns who can move off the ball and shoot it off the catch. We'll need to develop more.

Also, getting used to getting shots off against length would be nice.

[mapuakid]

Ken Tuffin, who learned to shoot in FEU

Is there higher probability that he could play for tall blacks? I’m not really sure if he could play in Gilas under coach chot.

[mapuakid]

Honestly, we can't produce off-ball players that can shoot ala Caidic, Heading, Chan. We barely see those kind of players in the homegrown scene. Yeah, we have Suerte, who can cut, then Bulanadi and Abando, but not much else. Plus, few can shoot in the FIBA scene like Caidic, Heading, and Chan.

And development, man. Bigs, lamang natin sa development kaysa Japan and SoKor, e. But wings and forwards, we still have a ways to go.

Kailangan talaga systemic change dito, e.

We’ll see in the fiba asia age groups if gilas youth could produce the next sottos especially the pa-overhype players of enzo flojo.