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  • Originally posted by JAMSKIE View Post
    Leo Austria & SMC people are the type of guys na for instance a team will offer a player as good as a Giannis Antetokounmpo for a trade, they would say, "Hindi namin pweding e trade sino man kina Junmar, CJ Perez, Lassiter or Tautuaa para dyan kasi napakahalaga nila sa team namin. Kung gusto nyo si James Sena or si Paul Zamar nalang e trade namin for Antetokounmpo."

    Ganyan na ganyan ang sinabi ni Leo Austria during the CJ Perez trade. Kaya yung mga players na ipinamigay ng SMB for Perez eh mga basura.

    Kagaguhan!
    Hahaha. They'll literally give you their trash for your best player and still talk like they're doing you a favor. How many wins did MGR and co won for Terrafirma last conference?

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    • Originally posted by thatweirdguy View Post
      Hahaha. They'll literally give you their trash for your best player and still talk like they're doing you a favor. How many wins did MGR and co won for Terrafirma last conference?
      They won 4 last conference and in fairness, Dyip MGR looked like the MGR of old. He was a passable point forward on some of their games.

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      • Originally posted by NOiNU View Post
        It’s a fair trade IF Terrafirma were contending for championships and they need Cabagnot to get them over the hump. But we all know they’re not and on the contrary, they’re a perennial rebuilding team. It doesn’t make sense to get a player on the twilight of his career to form a core and vie for titles. Kung leadership lang naman habol nila to motivate the youngsters, sana si Coach Chot na lang kinuha nila.
        Come on. TF is a farm team they will never contend fir a chsmpionship. But Alex is still a valuable trade chip for a contender. Over all pretty fair. Enciso is younger and has the slightly better stats but he has not yet shown he can be a contributor to a contender. Take note also Encisos minutes and usage rate is probably higher than Cabagnot. So he may not have the same stats with Cabagnots minutes.

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        • Originally posted by NOiNU View Post
          Because they can. Matatawa kn lang sa comments online, brusko raw kapalit pasyente. Ambulansiya raw siguro sinakyan ni Art de la Cruz papuntang SMC camp. Hahaha Seriously though, they might add a pick or two to make this appear more balanced. This is standard practice for the SMC machinery—they float names to test the waters (fans’ reactions) and precondition our minds, then adjust a bit to make it appear they made some concessions.
          In the end, it's just Cabagnot for Enciso, no Adams in the deal: https://www.pba.ph/news/smb-sends-ca...rma-for-enciso

          Well, SMB added a 30-year old support player, and TerraFirma added an old but still good veteran star. I dunno about the trade for each side. I can't process it yet.

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          • Originally posted by IPC View Post
            In the end, it's just Cabagnot for Enciso, no Adams in the deal: https://www.pba.ph/news/smb-sends-ca...rma-for-enciso

            Well, SMB added a 30-year old support player, and TerraFirma added an old but still good veteran star. I dunno about the trade for each side. I can't process it yet.
            I'll take this version of the trade anytime. For me, this is a fair trade considering its a trade between an SMC team & its bitch or farm team. You know what I mean
            "A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV

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            • Originally posted by JAMSKIE View Post
              I'll take this version of the trade anytime. For me, this is a fair trade considering its a trade between an SMC team & its bitch or farm team. You know what I mean
              Now I can comment. It's fair for me because I don't see how it makes sense for either side.

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              • Originally posted by JAMSKIE View Post
                I'll take this version of the trade anytime. For me, this is a fair trade considering its a trade between an SMC team & its bitch or farm team. You know what I mean
                likely enciso is another pawn for about another big trade
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                • Originally posted by IPC View Post
                  Now I can comment. It's fair for me because I don't see how it makes sense for either side.
                  I think it was fair since SMB got younger and had another gunner in Enciso. Terrafirma, meanwhile, basically got rid of McCarthy (who wasn't even part of their rotation in Bacolor) for a seasoned VET in Cabagnot who will mentor the likes of Juami, Munzon etc. etc. given he will not be traded again.

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                  • Originally posted by robert0326
                    Enciso - Cabagnot kinda fair for me because of the other reasons.. Enciso is younger but sometimes he's trigger happy w/ his shot selection.. medyo mababa IQ ni Enciso.. Even from his Alaska and TNT days of Enciso, he's inconsistent.. Cabagnot is older, But more reliable than Enciso in crucial situations...
                    Wow. how do you even measure basketball IQ?

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                    • Originally posted by Money View Post
                      Wow. how do you even measure basketball IQ?
                      Think he means Enciso's just a gunner, and sometimes takes too many boneheaded shots.

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                      • Originally posted by Money View Post
                        I think it was fair since SMB got younger and had another gunner in Enciso. Terrafirma, meanwhile, basically got rid of McCarthy (who wasn't even part of their rotation in Bacolor) for a seasoned VET in Cabagnot who will mentor the likes of Juami, Munzon etc. etc. given he will not be traded again.
                        Correction: Given that he will not be traded again or Juami, Munzon, etc. will not be traded. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

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                        • Originally posted by Rds View Post
                          Come on. TF is a farm team they will never contend fir a chsmpionship. But Alex is still a valuable trade chip for a contender. Over all pretty fair. Enciso is younger and has the slightly better stats but he has not yet shown he can be a contributor to a contender. Take note also Encisos minutes and usage rate is probably higher than Cabagnot. So he may not have the same stats with Cabagnots minutes.
                          Isn’t SMB a contender? Essentially you are saying Enciso is not a trade chip to a contender while Cabagnot is. What just transpired proves that is not the case.
                          Never look too far ahead. You might stumble on a block right in front of you.

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                          • First time terrafirma wins a trade.

                            They badly need someone like cabagnot who can teach them how to win. Alex can mentor these guys and still ball out. If there are no more trades, terrafirma can contend for a 6th spot in the playoffs

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                            • Originally posted by unstopaball12 View Post
                              First time terrafirma wins a trade.

                              They badly need someone like cabagnot who can teach them how to win. Alex can mentor these guys and still ball out. If there are no more trades, terrafirma can contend for a 6th spot in the playoffs
                              This is a very good argument if we didn’t know Terrafirma isn’t in the PBA to win. If they were, they wouldn’t be trading a player of Perez’ caliber for scrubs. I give Terrafirma the benefit of the doubt, but with the expected entry of quality Fil foreigners that’s potential gamechangers on the top (McKhinney, Brickman), I expect no more than a 10th place finish from them to secure one of those top picks.
                              Never look too far ahead. You might stumble on a block right in front of you.

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                              • Originally posted by NOiNU View Post
                                Isn’t SMB a contender? Essentially you are saying Enciso is not a trade chip to a contender while Cabagnot is. What just transpired proves that is not the case.
                                Of course SMB lost and wants a reset. Enciso is a good backup PG but not the finisher Cabaggie can still be. Don't tell me Magnolia or GSM wouldn't want a Cabaggie? Somebody who can play few minutes but score in bunches and even take the last shot.

                                Cabagnot actually did decently in the semis. But I guess SMB wants more defense and health in the back up PG position. Especially when Romeo is getting injured often.

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