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  • Originally posted by IPC View Post
    Victolero is actually their best coach right now, not Cone. He coaches a good defense. As of right now, he's leapfrogged the likes of Cone, Black, and Yeng in the coaching department. Mags were just outgunned by TNT in the Finals.
    Very much agree. Good thing that Victolero is not coaching SMB, pagnagkataon eh mahihirapan siguro ang TNT to win the recent 2021 Phi Cup title with Victolero calling the shots at SMB
    "A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV

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    • Originally posted by JAMSKIE View Post
      Very much agree. Good thing that Victolero is not coaching SMB, pagnagkataon eh mahihirapan siguro ang TNT to win the recent 2021 Phi Cup title with Victolero calling the shots at SMB
      Originally posted by robert0326
      Or the question will be Victolero can handle the egos of SMB players? From Santos, Cabagnot, Romeo, Ross, etc...? Baka 1 season lang mag reresign na si Victolero!!! hehehehhehehe...
      For sure, TNT would have had a hard time. SMB's talent combined with his defense? That's good. Thing is, who's a bigger defensive liability, Sangalang or June Mar? One thing's for sure, he won't zone much.

      As for egos, good point. Biggest ego that Victolero had handled was Ping, and so far Abueva. I don't think Lee and Sangalang have big egos. Would be interesting to see if he could manage more of those at SMB.

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      • Originally posted by robert0326
        Ping and Abueva are coachable in the court.. Those two are no problems by their coaches whenever Tab,Chot,etc... They have only problems in outside basketball but they forget that inside the court.. That's it, But not as likes of Romeo, Santos and Cabagnot.. But i agree, SMB will be better team with Victolero than Austria.. Victolero coached SMB will be cause a bigger headache for coach Chot and TNT side..
        Ayun na nga, e. Ping and Abueva are the biggest egos Victolero had handled, but they are really coachable. That's kind of a coach's dream, e.

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        • Simon Camacho was drafted by TNT back in 2019. I think teams should give him a second look, given that he's the top MVP candidate in Filbasket, and leads that league in points, rebounds, and blocks. He's also a versatile defender as far as I know.

          He's 6'5", but he's also quick, making him able to play both 3 and 4. He could be very useful for Chot. Given how Chot kept giving opportunities to Kib Montalbo, I won't be surprised to see Camacho being given those same opportunities, especially considering how Chot loves small ball, and Camacho can play small-ball 5.

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          • Originally posted by IPC View Post
            Simon Camacho was drafted by TNT back in 2019. I think teams should give him a second look, given that he's the top MVP candidate in Filbasket, and leads that league in points, rebounds, and blocks. He's also a versatile defender as far as I know.

            He's 6'5", but he's also quick, making him able to play both 3 and 4. He could be very useful for Chot. Given how Chot kept giving opportunities to Kib Montalbo, I won't be surprised to see Camacho being given those same opportunities, especially considering how Chot loves small ball, and Camacho can play small-ball 5.
            But his shooting form stinks as hell. I was always watching the games of Adamson, both in UAAP and their practice. Brod, I can tell you that Camacho's shooting form needs to improve if he wants to have a chance to play in TNT.
            Last edited by ja.he; 11-08-2021, 02:34 AM.
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            • Originally posted by ja.he View Post
              But his shooting form stinks as hell. I was always watching the games of Adamson, both in UAAP and their practice. Brod, I can tell Camacho's shooting form needs to improve if he wants to have a chance to play in TNT.
              I see. A lot of work to be done if he doesn't want to be stuck at center his whole career. Shooting's important if you're a forward.

              At least shooting mechanics are fixable. I improved my shooting from the FT line and from midrange when I changed my shot mechanics. I'm sure that can be fixable. That takes time and practice, though.

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              • Originally posted by robert0326
                Maybe Phoenix can give him that opportunity? He's better fit there...
                I forgot, Topex also plays small-ball with Phoenix. Maybe he can develop as a small-ball 4 there, or maybe even 3. He just needs to get ahead of Anthony and Manganti in the rotation.

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                • Originally posted by robert0326
                  I forgot.. Maybe NLEX can try this guy.. Yes, CYC is sucks in terms on knowledge in FIBA rules, but on terms of developing players in a right position eh he is the best here... Oftana, Trollano, Semerad can interchange position naman.. He can be like Tugade under CYG...
                  Yeng can work his magic to Simon Camacho. Classmate is a good 6'4-6'5 forward. He just needs to work with his shooting.
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                  • Originally posted by IPC View Post
                    Aquino and Cariño are listed as PFs. I think their teams will develop them to play that position long-term. This is an edge that the B.League has over the PBA. With imports around (and these are usually bigs), tall locals have to learn how to play smaller positions. We don't have that culture in the PBA, given how we have an All-Filipino and an import conference with a 6'5" height limit.

                    Ang disadvantage lang dito, bigs won't have many opportunities to play, kasi tatlo ang import.
                    Originally posted by ja.he View Post
                    Mas exciting nga raw kasi ang 6'5-6'6 because they can make spectacular plays.
                    Originally posted by TheRodster21 View Post
                    Ironic because you have Roosevelt Adams playing Center when he’d be much more exciting as a guard.
                    Originally posted by ja.he View Post
                    “Nag-a-adjust pa rin si Roosevelt Adams sa sistema ng basketball sa PBA, yung physicality. Siguro kailangan magpalapad siya. Minsan nahihiya pang tumira, e.” - John Cardel
                    Originally posted by TheRodster21 View Post
                    I kind of understand having him play Center because he could create mismatches in the PBA because of his athleticism and skillset for his size but then this quote would defeat the purpose. He would gain an advantage because now he can play more inside and be physical but then he loses the edge in the other department making him.an RDO clone instead of a PBA version of Anthony Davis
                    Eto problema sa mga old-school mentality dito. Kapag kwatro ka, you have to bulk up and play in the paint. This holds true especially if you're 6'3"-6'4" and up. Wala pang konsepto ng small-ball even though that's the philosophy that fits here better.

                    But to be fair to Cardel, at least Roosevelt Adams is playing from the perimeter and attacking from there. Kung 4 man siya, he's a small-ball 4 (which is a wing), not a traditional stretch big. Even Adams says that he produced better when his playing position was changed from 4 to guard.

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                    • Originally posted by robert0326
                      I forgot.. Maybe NLEX can try this guy.. Yes, CYC is sucks in terms on knowledge in FIBA rules, but on terms of developing players in a right position eh he is the best here... Oftana, Trollano, Semerad can interchange position naman.. He can be like Tugade under CYG...
                      Originally posted by ja.he View Post
                      Yeng can work his magic to Simon Camacho. Classmate is a good 6'4-6'5 forward. He just needs to work with his shooting.
                      Thing is, would Yeng see Camacho as a wing or as a big?

                      Well, Yeng has enough bigs to accommodate Camacho to the forward position, so the latter will be fine, he'll develop as a 3/4, hopefully. Yeng is not much of a small-ball coach anyway.

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                      • Originally posted by IPC View Post
                        Thing is, would Yeng see Camacho as a wing or as a big?

                        Well, Yeng has enough bigs to accommodate Camacho to the forward position, so the latter will be fine, he'll develop as a 3/4, hopefully. Yeng is not much of a small-ball coach anyway.
                        Honestly, I don't want Camacho to go to NLEX becoz he might just eat some minutes of Calvin Oftana who is a player I really want to get as much playing time under coach Yeng to enhance his develpoment.

                        I'd like Camacho to go to Meralco.
                        "A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV

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                        • straight up trade

                          santos to northport
                          manuel to SMB

                          The NorthPort Batang Pier has dealt Vic Manuel to San Miguel Beermen in exchange for Arwind Santos.
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                          • SMB trades arwind for vic manuel, wow i though bagyo is untouchable

                            The NorthPort Batang Pier has dealt Vic Manuel to San Miguel Beermen in exchange for Arwind Santos.

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                            • Originally posted by Silent Killer View Post
                              straight up trade

                              santos to northport
                              manuel to SMB

                              https://www.pba.ph/news/vic-manuel-a...s-trade-places
                              lol beat me to it, I though arwind will retire as a beermen, anyway i doubt this will work for smb as manuel has no 3pt range and will just clog the lane

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                              • Arwind for VIc?

                                Interesting.

                                Phoenix will have Wright, Banchero, Perkins, Chua and Arwind. Really undersized but can compensate with their outside shooting and verstility.

                                For SMB, So Junmar and Manuel Twin tower Combo? Idk what SMB is thinking right now.

                                And in contrast to robert's suggestion of smb import. SMB still got a dominant scoring import.

                                idk. SO SMB cannot play 4 ou now because Manuel cant hit a 3. And both JMF and VIc are post players. Looks terrible fit for me.

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