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  • Originally posted by robert0326
    Ganyan na talaga laro ni Pessumal since his college days, He didn't improve the way Pogoy improves as of today.. His best performance actually when he was playing for Gilas cadets under Nash Racela before.. I remember he drained 10 3 pt shots in a FIBA game before.. I think it was against Jordan, If i'm not mistaken... Ginawa lang sya "Boy abang sa labas" nila Pido at Austria.. He can be 3 and D guy in other teams.. w/o his sweet shooting of him, He will be already retired as basketball player because aside from his shooting eh he can't do more.. I hope that he was also traded to Terrafirma for CJ Perez trade, baka dun lumabas laro nya...
    That's the problem if one is just a pure shooter, with very limited offense off the dribble (can't create his own shots off the dribble) & is not a good defender either. Good that you mentioned Pogoy becoz Pogoy is really someone who can shoot the three, can create shots off the dribble & is a reliable wing defender. In a game where Pogoy's outside shooting falters, he can use his drives & pull-up mid-range jumpers as an alternative, plus he can compensate on his defense. The same could not be said about Pessumal.

    Pessumal somewhat reminds me of Alaska's Roel Gomez during the 90's.
    "A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV

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    • Originally posted by JAMSKIE View Post
      That's the problem if one is just a pure shooter, with very limited offense off the dribble (can't create his own shots off the dribble) & is not a good defender either. Good that you mentioned Pogoy becoz Pogoy is really someone who can shoot the three, can create shots off the dribble & is a reliable wing defender. In a game where Pogoy's outside shooting falters, he can use his drives & pull-up mid-range jumpers as an alternative, plus he can compensate on his defense. The same could not be said about Pessumal.

      Pessumal somewhat reminds me of Alaska's Roel Gomez during the 90's.
      Yeah, Pessumal is just like a Kyle Korver. A shooting specialist and offers nothing else. You think he could have developed into at least a 3&D player if Austria (or SMC for that matter) had tried?

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      • Originally posted by IPC View Post
        Yeah, Pessumal is just like a Kyle Korver. A shooting specialist and offers nothing else. You think he could have developed into at least a 3&D player if Austria (or SMC for that matter) had tried?
        I don't know becoz I haven't watched much of his game since he's playing for a team that I hate with a passion

        On a serious note, it doesn't look like he has the makings of a good wing defender. He seem to lack some toughness eh.
        "A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV

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        • Any idea which SMC team is gonna trade for Vic Manuel?

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          • Originally posted by thatweirdguy View Post
            Any idea which SMC team is gonna trade for Vic Manuel?
            Just heard he and Michael Calisaan got traded to NorthPort for Sean Anthony. Holy crap.

            Call me biased, but methinks it's likely Ginebra or SMB, with the uncertainty regarding their bigs.

            I know Ginebra has Prince Caperal and Ken Holmqvist, but I don't expect Holmqvist to be used by Cone anytime soon, until his hand is forced.

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            • Originally posted by robert0326
              For me, Phoenix won this trade.. Yes, Manuel + Calisaan for Anthony sounds Northport won on paper but on the needs, Phoenix won it.. Anthony can play SF in occasion than Manuel.. It seems Manuel + Perkins combo experiment didn't work out, As both playing PF position and both can't move to SF position (wing) after that Abueva trade... While I don't know if Manuel can be fit alongside Greg because both are traditional type of big man.. Sisikip lang ang shaded lane if these two will be on the court together... While i'm sure Chua + Perkins + Anthony will be good complimentary in each other than they have on Manuel...
              Agreed, Phoenix kinda won this one, provided Sean stays healthy. He fits Phoenix better. He can space the floor and defend better.

              You're right, masikip kapag nandyan si Vic. Although his midrange jumper can space the floor, mahilig din siya pumoste like Greg, which is why he kinda didn't fit with Perkins.

              As for Calisaan, hope he can develop as a wing in NorthPort. Sayang, 'di ginagamit masyado.

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              • Manuel was kind of a mis-fit with Phoenix last conference. He sure did get his usual numbers in some of their games but overall, his impact wasn't that great (i know, he's not Calvin Abueva). Plus his DNPs due to injuries/illness exacerbated his "fit" issues with Phoenix. Totally, a conference to forget for that guy.

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                • Originally posted by Rodbi View Post
                  Manuel was kind of a mis-fit with Phoenix last conference. He sure did get his usual numbers in some of their games but overall, his impact wasn't that great (i know, he's not Calvin Abueva). Plus his DNPs due to injuries/illness exacerbated his "fit" issues with Phoenix. Totally, a conference to forget for that guy.
                  He has actually become ballhog & trigger-happy with Phoenix. He played for Phoenix as if he was just concerned about padding-up his stats.
                  "A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV

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                  • Originally posted by JAMSKIE View Post
                    He has actually become ballhog & trigger-happy with Phoenix. He played for Phoenix as if he was just concerned about padding-up his stats.
                    probably trying to impress the empires for a big payday, I just hope Sean Anthony won't bring his tantrums/drama to Phoenix, watching Cstand, Ferrer and Anthony argue and pad their stats last year was painful to watch

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                    • Originally posted by JAMSKIE View Post
                      He has actually become ballhog & trigger-happy with Phoenix. He played for Phoenix as if he was just concerned about padding-up his stats.
                      Originally posted by CoJ View Post
                      probably trying to impress the empires for a big payday, I just hope Sean Anthony won't bring his tantrums/drama to Phoenix, watching Cstand, Ferrer and Anthony argue and pad their stats last year was painful to watch
                      And it's quite a shame, imo. It really now has come down to that when it comes to PBA players: playing great bball to impress and satisfy not the fanbase, but the well-moneyed empires. Nothing wrong fundamentally and what I say might be flawed, but at least be genuine when it comes to helping your team/fanbase succeed.

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                      • PBA officially joins EASL.

                        After some period of hemming and hawing, the Philippine Basketball Association signed up with the East Asia Super League in the end, making it a pioneer member of the regional loop where top PBA ball clubs slug it out with counterparts from China, South Korea, Japan and Taiwan.

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                        • Originally posted by IPC View Post
                          I remember Pessumal struggled in Globalport. However, I looked at the numbers, and he was OK for a 3 point specialist. He was as good there as he is now with SMB. You're right, he might not count.

                          So Austria hasn't developed a single player.
                          Sa adamson meron haha

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                          • The Sean Anthony - Vic Manuel trade seems like a huge win for Phoenix assuming Anthony stays healthy. Not saying that Northport got the short end of the stick but it didn't seem like Manuel was a good fit at Phoenix. I kinda feel like he'll eventually end up in a SMC team. Probably in Magnolia with his buddy, Calvin.

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                            • Originally posted by dubidub View Post
                              Sa adamson meron haha
                              In the PBA, man. Hahahahahahahaha.

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                              • Originally posted by Jackie Reaper View Post
                                This is great news. Hopefully our team can stack up well and prepare. They're gonna face different offenses. Our defense will be tested.

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