Philippine PBA Trades, Releases, Sign-ups, Rumours (vol. III)

[ja.he]

That would be a great time to experiment on letting the younger guys (under 21) join the league. Seriously, i think the PBA heads should consider that change, if ever. They're the future faces of the league anyways.

As for the shortening of the season, i hope so but i would not hold my breath. Until they find another way of earning extra revenue outside their current way of doing things (long national TV exposure, advertising brands), i think the status quo stays as it is.

Because they are not giving a home-and-away format a try.

[IPC]

Ginebra is not known to be good at developing young players.. halos lahat ng rookies ba nakuha nila ending at the bench.. and I don't get why ginebra wants Romeo? They still have Pringle to do that at he's still at top of his game.. long hair only doing harm than good on this trade.. ginawang NBA 2k Yung process eh.. while smb will not win also on this trade.. yes, they get malonzo but you lose a guy that should be cabagnot's heir apparent.. look at smb's core? That's too old.. mas ok pa Kung si tautuaa Ang I trade nila and find a good back up center for junmar.. while Northport? I told all of here already, I don't trust this team.. if rumors are true about bolick going to B-league then that's excellent choice for him.. Northport is sucks.. I will not surprise if Greg will also do the same.. he doesn't want to be part of smc's shenigans...

I hope that changes. Scottie developed in Ginebra, same with Aljon, although that was because of a somewhat shallow bench.

Ginebra and SMB need a development team. If they develop players, at least they can develop future assets, whether in games or in trades.

[IPC]

I'm thinking that with the possible exodus of some marque/elite players from the PBA, a lot of basketball fans would lose interest on the league thereby hurting the league's marketability. This might probably compel the PBA to reduce its season into just 2 conferences & making it just an 8-month season instead of that very looooooooooooooooong 10-month season.

How do you think PBA would look like if about 50% of its stars & superstars are no longer there? A good number of fans would lose interest in following the PBA games. It would therefore no longer viable & practical for the league to hold a very long season, specially in this pandemic period.

I think third-tier college stars may still come to the PBA. The road's open for them to become stars, e, with all the young stars going abroad. It opens up opportunities for them.

Ang tanong, can the PBA market the remaining players as stars?

[IPC]

Depende.. Prime example is RR Pogoy, He's not the first (neither 2nd or 3rd option at FEU before)option before.. But he shine the most of his batchmates when they go to the PBA.. Madaming hidden gems satin.. We are only focus to that stars from collegiate scene.. Most of them are bust when they go to the PBA.. Kailangan lang ng PBA is to market them properly.. Same goes to JP Erram, PJ Simon, Marc Pingris, RDO, etc...

Exactly. There are other players who are hidden gems. 'Di lang nabibigyan ng opportunity kasi loaded or matigas ang ulo ng coach.

Don't just rely on already present star power. Make your own stars. It's actually more satisfying for me that way.

[Rodbi]

Exactly. There are other players who are hidden gems. 'Di lang nabibigyan ng opportunity kasi loaded or matigas ang ulo ng coach.

Don't just rely on already present star power. Make your own stars. It's actually more satisfying for me that way.

PBA's new tagline would be like:

PBA - Ang Bayan ng mga Underdogs/Die-Hards

And that's the kind of success most of the masa likes.

[Jackie Reaper]

Exactly. There are other players who are hidden gems. 'Di lang nabibigyan ng opportunity kasi loaded or matigas ang ulo ng coach.

Don't just rely on already present star power. Make your own stars. It's actually more satisfying for me that way.

Guys like Arvin Tolentino, Von Pessumal, Montalbo, Justin Chua are also good.. Napaka underrated lang nila.. We are basketball country, Di tayo mauubusan ng players every year.. Even guys like Tallo, Banal will have a chance to shine.. With this situation now, teams who are good at developing underrated players are at advantage.. particularly Yeng Guiao coached teams...

PBA's new tagline would be like:

PBA - Ang Bayan ng mga Underdogs/Die-Hards

And that's the kind of success most of the masa likes.

What if Thailand Basketball League decides to open doors again to Filipinos? As far as I know, Thailand has a penchant of getting Filipinos that are role players or those riding off the bench. Leo Avenido, Patrick Cabahug, Jerrick Cañada, Paul Zamar and Eddie Laure are some of those names I can think of.

If TBL decides to get PBA's bench players, may matitira pa kaya sa PBA? Lol

[IPC]

What if Thailand Basketball League decides to open doors again to Filipinos? As far as I know, Thailand has a penchant of getting Filipinos that are role players or those riding off the bench. Leo Avenido, Patrick Cabahug, Jerrick Cañada, Paul Zamar and Eddie Laure are some of those names I can think of.

If TBL decides to get PBA's bench players, may matitira pa kaya sa PBA? Lol

Meron pa. Problem is, again, would the PBA teams like to build stars from the ground up instead of relying on extant star power?

[Jackie Reaper]

Meron pa. Problem is, again, would the PBA teams like to build stars from the ground up instead of relying on extant star power?

No, PBA is not willing that's why they are making fuss lately against B.League and T1 League.

[IPC]

Problem is, high school, college & amateur team coaches in Phi basketball always go for the win. Development, more often than not, has to take a backseat.

Case in point: Goldwyn Monteverde in NU. Monteverde got to develop Tamayo and Kevin Quiambao as potential wings only because he could afford to. NU was a winning program in the UAAP juniors.

Ateneo HS also developed Josh Lazaro and Lebron Lopez to be potential wings as well.

Looks like here, you have to be absolutely dominant in order to have a good pathway to development.

Great points. Sadly, kailangan muna ng isang team to have a decisive edge in talents over the rest of the field before the coach can afford to put emphasis on development. Still kudos to coach Goldwyn & the coach of Ateneo high school team for putting emphasis on player development & not just winning.

On the other hand SMB had enjoyed decisive edge over most PBA teams in terms of talent, yet Leo Austria never bothered to develop Junmar into a versatile center who can shoot from mid-range, & defend the pick & roll well. Kahit ba sabihin nating PBA is already a professional league in which winning is the No. 1 priority, still player development should be a goal. What Austria did to Fajardo is compel him na magpalaki ng katawan & power his way inside the paint against the shorter & lanky bigs of the opponents. Ayan tuloy, when faced against equally tall, strong & skilled bigs in FIBA basketball, nangamote si Junmar in most games.

Based on Coach Leo coaching years, he has allowed big man to shoot and create offense from perimeter.. Like Bono, Mamaclay, Rois, JDV, JR Reyes and now Tantuau. As stated before JF the one who won't stop eating rice until he got injured. And JF is not as mobile really to defend PnR and make offense from the perimeter.

I'll move this conversation here.

As for June Mar, methinks that was SMC management. Austria isn't a bad coach. He actually had a good track record coaching Adamson, leading them to two twice-to-beat situations. Pero ewan ko lang, a. His creativity nowadays is a 4-out offense to surround June Mar. Pero even with the rice, you can still control the weight through training. And there's actually a way that June Mar could defend PnR. That's just to hedge, then drop and play the passing lanes, like what Nikola Jokić has been doing and what Nikola Vučević has just been doing now. They're not that athletic fleet of foot, but they're aware (and in Vuč's case, having a 7'5" wingspan helps a ton).

But SMB as a whole isn't exactly known for developing players. Well, they've never gone through a rebuilding process, but look at Magnolia. Developed Sangalang into one of the best bigs in the PBA, despite being a contender.

[IPC]

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I wonder how hard it is for the teams going to next season, they don’t have a start date yet, the imports need to quarantine for 10 days?, will be in a bubble.

If an import does not perform, the next import will have to go through the same process. Looks like so many hiccups for this. Also if this happens in nov, that means no Christmas and new year for the PBA teams? They will be in a bubble? Unless they move to Manila if alert level lower

This is partly why I think this season should have had imports for the whole year, with a double or triple round robin. Para wala na masyadong perwisyo sa quarantine in case an import needs replacing.

Although, it might be possible to look for a replacement in advance when the underperformance starts.

[Rodbi]

I'll move this conversation here.

As for June Mar, methinks that was SMC management. Austria isn't a bad coach. He actually had a good track record coaching Adamson, leading them to two twice-to-beat situations. Pero ewan ko lang, a. His creativity nowadays is a 4-out offense to surround June Mar. Pero even with the rice, you can still control the weight through training. And there's actually a way that June Mar could defend PnR. That's just to hedge, then drop and play the passing lanes, like what Nikola Jokić has been doing and what Nikola Vučević has just been doing now. They're not that athletic fleet of foot, but they're aware (and in Vuč's case, having a 7'5" wingspan helps a ton).

But SMB as a whole isn't exactly known for developing players. Well, they've never gone through a rebuilding process, but look at Magnolia. Developed Sangalang into one of the best bigs in the PBA, despite being a contender.

I agree on this, maging panakot man lang sana with all his size and length, he can cover a lot of space with it. But to fully mask this defensive deficiency, a tall, agile 3 or 4 must play along side JMF. I think Malonzo fits the bill.

[IPC]

speaking of family

From Twitter

Snow Badua
A popular team most likely to "trade" high flying, hill-topping forward to a team from the north.

Meanwhile, this cager will most likely play in the land of the rising sun.

Atleast his rights is with the team from the norte.

the former hilltopper Japeth to North port BP then japs to b-league

if this is the case, at least SMC/BGSM (implied by the rumor) gave Japeth the green light to seek employment in Japan, but they'll probably get Malonzo+Rike from Batang Pier

At least Ginebra would actually fill a positional need if the ones they're getting are Malonzo and Rike, which also help the youth movement. However, I think they should give up a ton of picks (maybe 3 first-rounders) so the players drafted by those picks don't get wasted and rot on the bench.

[thatweirdguy]

So, If that is true, Northport will likely lose not just Bolick, who confirmed that he will also go to Japan.. Poor Northport!!!

Possibly Slaughter too. No way NP is his final stop. Is there any other NP player that SMC could use?

[IPC]

Haha. Northport really is the team to dump players no longer useful to SMC. How many rings did the twin towers combination of Greggyboi and Japeth won for the Gins?

The combo won three out of five championships for Ginebra. The other two, it was just Japeth.

[IPC]

Defensive Meralco team getting an import that does not play defense. Haha.

I hope they finally find someone who can pile up the points for them.

Then Black should adjust in order to fit Shabbazz to their team.. make his team a defensive unit and cover Shabbazz's defensive weaknesses... They have that defensive players to do that by the way... This is make or break now from Black.. If they fail again this conference then it's time to replace him...

Trade the whole lineup too. Honestly they suck. If they're really serious in winning they should rebuild

Save Almazan, Belo, Black and Hodge. The rest of the team can go.

Hugnatan should retire, Yeah, he can still score but he's eyesore on defense.. He can't catch up anymore on defensive end..Last semis against Magnolia, Ian was unstoppable because Hugnatan can't defend him... Poor Shabazz, he might force by Meralco coaching staff to play PF to C... I don't know if he can adjust from being legit SF in NBA and CBA..

I think Shabazz won't be asked to play PF/C like a big, at least offensively. He'll play his game, which is attack from the perimeter, similar to what NorthPort did with Malonzo. The problem is, MERALCO only has 6'8" Almazan as their tall big. Shabazz is the next-tallest in the roster. Another is, the 6'6" height limit, which would have resolved MERALCO's size issues.

They could have got Troy Rike or Ken Holmqvist. I don't know why they picked an undersized Alvin Pasaol over those guys. TRike is 6'8 big that can stretch the floor while Holmqvist can be a good project player at 6'8.

Yeah, and Black likes bigs. I agree that Rike and Holmqvist (who Cone called a JDV lite) could be good projects for MERALCO to develop, and give them much-needed size inside.

However, best player available over need when it comes to drafting, which in MERALCO's case is Pasaol. However, it didn't show last conference.