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  • Originally posted by noyce View Post
    c'mon, no one was still playing turtle defensive principles in the Philippine setting and in Tab's case, Gilas, when Chot took him as defense consultant for the 2013 Fiba Asia run. as well as 2015 Fiba Asia shackling of Haddadi.
    Didnt win anything in 2014 din joke...nasisi pa ni Chot si Douthit..athough the 2014 debacle is Chot's own doing hahah..
    To becomes Asia's Best, we need to compete against the World's Best..
    1 Big 4 small > 5 out offense.

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    • Originally posted by IPC View Post
      You had good reason to doubt Chot, especially considering his 'bara-bara' reputation and his lack of defense in the past. Who would have thought that Chot would turn TNT into one of the best defensive teams in the PBA this All-Filipino?
      Chot has improved as a coach. He also looks very calm now vs his outbursts before.

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      • Originally posted by unstopaball12 View Post
        Chot has improved as a coach. He also looks very calm now vs his outbursts before.
        true. i also noticed this. this finals is really good. despite the scores.
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        • Originally posted by unstopaball12 View Post
          Chot has improved as a coach. He also looks very calm now vs his outbursts before.
          He should be, as he is ramping up leadership seminars in almost all top companies in the Philippines, he should practice what he preach
          To becomes Asia's Best, we need to compete against the World's Best..
          1 Big 4 small > 5 out offense.

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          • Originally posted by robert0326
            Mikey Williams is too good for Magnolia's guards.. Even he's better than Pringle (and Romeo too).. What do you think guys what is now happening in SMC side why they didn't pick Williams at the draft? Malonzo and Munzon are good and could be better players in near future, But they are not on level on Mikey's talent.. He should be the top pick (base on the talent level).. TNT should care this guy and give whatever he wants (salary wise, he deserves it).. TNT can trade Parks anytime even at low level.. Or maybe give it to Meralco, so that if Parks comes back, Meralco will have finally a franchise player for good...
            Yeah, Mikey just made Parks expendable. He's that good.

            As for Parks to MERALCO, how would TNT pull it off? Kasi, they'd need a third team, plus they'd need to recoup his value. I'd say TNT would need a wing, but Chot's succeeded with 3-guard lineups, e.

            If TNT would need a wing, maybe they can test if they can trade Parks to NorthPort for Malonzo and Navarro. Beat the SMC teams to those players. Then, NorthPort trades Parks to MERALCO for a couple picks and good role players. I'm dreaming, but it's the best I got.

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            • some random rumor floated on twitter by Snow Badua

              Flash: Big trade involving GINEBRA, NORTHPORT and SAN MIGUEL might be executed before the opening of second conference this coming November.

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              • Originally posted by CoJ View Post
                some random rumor floated on twitter by Snow Badua

                Flash: Big trade involving GINEBRA, NORTHPORT and SAN MIGUEL might be executed before the opening of second conference this coming November.
                Let me guess:

                Northport will receive: Tolentino or Thompson
                SMB will receive: Malonzo or Bolick
                Ginebra will receive: Romeo

                In the end, Northport will be on the losing side in this trade.
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                • Originally posted by ja.he View Post
                  Let me guess:

                  Northport will receive: Tolentino or Thompson
                  SMB will receive: Malonzo or Bolick
                  Ginebra will receive: Romeo

                  In the end, Northport will be on the losing side in this trade.
                  Bold of you to assume that Ginebra will trade Iskati and Tolentino. We all know it's someone like Salado or Mariano judging with how SMB was able to land Perez

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                  • Originally posted by ja.he View Post
                    Let me guess:

                    Northport will receive: Tolentino or Thompson
                    SMB will receive: Malonzo or Bolick
                    Ginebra will receive: Romeo

                    In the end, Northport will be on the losing side in this trade.
                    Not a fan of this trade. Scottie is a key piece for Ginebra to continue their 3-guard lineup due to his defense and versatility. Arvin can be a good high-upside piece if used properly, and trading him for Terrence will thin Ginebra's forward corps, which is already aging. JDV's 38, Dillinger's 37, even Brownlee is 33. Unless Ginebra makes Brian Enriquez part of the rotation, that forward corps will thin. I don't see Stanley Pringle taking Scottie's role in a 3-guard lineup.

                    The only way I can (remotely) stomach this trade is if Ginebra will be the one to get Malonzo, not SMB.

                    Furthermore, I'd rather focus on building through the draft and developing Arvin, Salado, Holmqvist, and Enriquez.

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                    • Originally posted by ja.he View Post
                      Let me guess:

                      Northport will receive: Tolentino or Thompson
                      SMB will receive: Malonzo or Bolick
                      Ginebra will receive: Romeo

                      In the end, Northport will be on the losing side in this trade.
                      What's new? Farm teams are always at the losing side of any deal. They are supposed to be on the losing side of the trade. That's what they are in the league for. Yung puta, nandyan yan para bastusin at lamutakin ng customer. There's no such thing as bitches or whores are supposed to be treated nicely by the customers.
                      "A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV

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                      • Originally posted by ja.he View Post
                        4- 6 foreign players is the range in Europe. Asian leagues are still more restrictive with Japan B.League the most lenient and the PBA the most strict.
                        Originally posted by zairex View Post
                        I think our rule on mix blood is much better. You wont see players like CS and pringle playing in the same team. You need to be Japanese by age of 22 to be consider local or else you will play as naturalized. Naturalized is one per team in Bleague.
                        My only gripe about our mixed blood rule is that it covers FIBA-eligible players as well. FIBA eligiblilty should be the basis for the limit.

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                        • Originally posted by robert0326
                          As per snow:
                          Smb gets malonzo
                          Ginebra gets Romeo plus smb's future draft pick
                          Northport gets tolentino plus ginebra's 2021 1st round pick..

                          Actually I have to be honest here.. that is almost a fair trade on paper.. if rookie class next year are good, baka mas lamang Northport, why? Ginebra's pick probably from range 5-8 pick, even they will make it to the finals next conference because they suck last afc... If marcial approves the likes of gray, brickman, Domingo and rosser then the draft is still loaded next year.. guys like arana (from au), ambohot, rivero, Bates, tuffin and baltazar joining then Northport will get atleast a quality rookie next year then Arvin tolentino is a good player.. ctc only forgot him at rotation... The loser here is ginebra.. you still have Pringle, Scottie at guard rotation and tenorio then where will you put Romeo at rotation? Balik na Naman sila sa security guard agency Ang ginebra...
                          Exactly, Ginebra will lose that and become a security agency team. Apologies for the language, but that's exactly what the fuck I'm worried about. Yes, Ginebra run a 3-guard lineup, but Scottie's the 3 in that 3-guard lineup because he can guard 1 to 3. Neither Pringle nor LA nor Terrence has that same versatility on defense. They'll get abused by bigger SFs like Abueva.

                          Consider the fit first before the talent. They need a FORWARD. LA is old, yes, but Pringle's still in his peak, and so is Scottie. It's the forwards I'm worried about. Aljon's the only reliable rotation forward last conference.

                          'Di ko talaga gets ang trade na 'to kung mangyari man.

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                          • Originally posted by robert0326
                            I don't know if Tim cone approves this one.. many said that ctc is on control on his line up, but it seems he can't control this team, especially in terms of trading players.. I don't see CTC is on the final say on having Romeo on his team.. si long hair lang nagpapagulo Ng line up na to.. now, I see that Al Chua is not good GM.. he benefit of all the works and moves that eala did before at smc teams.. he came being sports director of smc when smb is already a solid line up.. all of moves smb did was on eala.. also he did the trick on ginebra when put all of the pieces to become a champion team.. si long hair lang nakinabang that all of the sacrifice of mr. Eala before.. but if you see now Al chua's moves on putting all of the pieces on one team.. personally, he sucks on that.. he doesn't know how to build a great team.. chot Reyes is better than him on creating a championship contender team.. look at tnt now? He doesn't need to put all stars caliber on one team.. partida, nilayasan pa sila ni parks... Yes, they sacrifice nlex pick to give it to tnt but not on the moves what Chua did to smc.. look at montalbo, heruela, Marcelo and khobuntin.. if montalbo is on smc teams malamang nasa dulo na to Ng bench.. heruela's career revive at tnt after he was benched by smb.. mukhang nanalo pa tnt sa trade between Romeo to heruela, semerad and future pick.. Romeo is always injured prone.. Marcelo is a good back up big man for tnt.. he was benched also by ginebra and almost he left out by all of pba teams before tnt gets him.. it not just about putting superstars/all stars on one team.. it just putting together to be a great team..
                            Yeah, I have the same suspicion. Cone's not stupid as to tactics and fit (although he may have to adjust). Si Chua lang talaga nangingialam, e. Pringle trade is OK, since Ginebra sorely needed a shot creator in the All-Filipino. But Standhardinger? I'd rather have taken Jamie Malonzo or even Sean Anthony or Kevin Ferrer. I only said Ferrer before, but yeah, I stand by my point that Ginebra needed forwards more than bigs. They actually have one in Arvin, pero hindi lang nilalaro.

                            It's not just about stockpiling talent, it's about developing and maximizing it, which frankly only Mags has done among the SMC teams.

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                            • I'm thinking that with the possible exodus of some marque/elite players from the PBA, a lot of basketball fans would lose interest on the league thereby hurting the league's marketability. This might probably compel the PBA to reduce its season into just 2 conferences & making it just an 8-month season instead of that very looooooooooooooooong 10-month season.

                              How do you think PBA would look like if about 50% of its stars & superstars are no longer there? A good number of fans would lose interest in following the PBA games. It would therefore no longer viable & practical for the league to hold a very long season, specially in this pandemic period.
                              "A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV

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                              • Originally posted by JAMSKIE View Post
                                I'm thinking that with the possible exodus of some marque/elite players from the PBA, a lot of basketball fans would lose interest on the league thereby hurting the league's marketability. This might probably compel the PBA to reduce its season into just 2 conferences & making it just an 8-month season instead of that very looooooooooooooooong 10-month season.

                                How do you think PBA would look like if about 50% of its stars & superstars are no longer there? A good number of fans would lose interest in following the PBA games. It would therefore no longer viable & practical for the league to hold a very long season, specially in this pandemic period.
                                That would be a great time to experiment on letting the younger guys (under 21) join the league. Seriously, i think the PBA heads should consider that change, if ever. They're the future faces of the league anyways.

                                As for the shortening of the season, i hope so but i would not hold my breath. Until they find another way of earning extra revenue outside their current way of doing things (long national TV exposure, advertising brands), i think the status quo stays as it is.

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