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  • Originally posted by thatweirdguy View Post
    Especially if JF can't regain his form. We might see a Mo-Barney trade. Or eff that. Whoever is their end of bench guy for GS. That's how they do business anyway.

    Replace Austria with a more competent coach and it's a guaranteed title for SMB every conference na barring injuries. They are actually underachieving..
    That is perhaps the reason why SMC big bosses are trying to load as much talent as possible kasi kailangan overwhelming yung advantage sa talent & depth ng SMB over other teams to ensure success. Kasi kung sa coaching aspect lang, SMB will not have any edge over most PBA teams.

    Put Leo Austria on a team like Alaska or NLEX, I'm sure that team will suck.
    "A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV

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    • Originally posted by robert0326
      Remove Cabagnot at starting 5 and put Perez as starter, Cabagnot's era is gone already... Same with Arwind.. But the thing is they don't have a legit 4 spot to replace Arwind.. Expect SMB to harvest either Malonzo or either Terrafirma's pick / Northport's pick to get a legit 4 spot guy.. Baltazar will be that guy for SMB but he will be MVP bound, as he will likely to be next year's top pick by Blackwater elite...
      SMB has a good starting PF in Mo Tautuaa. That presents a size mismatch, and I don't think that lineup can be punished enough by any team, given that they can't consistently make threes to break their zone or take advantage of Mo or June Mar' defense.

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      • Originally posted by IPC View Post
        SMB has a good starting PF in Mo Tautuaa. That presents a size mismatch, and I don't think that lineup can be punished enough by any team, given that they can't consistently make threes to break their zone or take advantage of Mo or June Mar' defense.
        Lane is kinda clogged when Mo and June Mar play together at the same time. The JuneMar Mo tandem also struggles on D when faced with smaller but more mobile bigmen who don't shy away from the paint.

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        • Originally posted by dubidub View Post
          Lane is kinda clogged when Mo and June Mar play together at the same time. The JuneMar Mo tandem also struggles on D when faced with smaller but more mobile bigmen who don't shy away from the paint.
          Thing is, they'll be well-hidden with a zone on defense. Those mobile bigs might be dissuaded from attacking the paint unless they move well without the ball and time their cuts.

          For offense naman, oo nga, Mo and June Mar like to bully their way inside, but at least Mo can space the floor a little with a 3-point shot.

          As of right now, that lineup is unbeatable. It will take great defensive bigs to contain the two of them, while offensively, your zone-busting weapons have to be consistent and consistently-used.

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          • Originally posted by robert0326
            Meralco should fire Norman Black.. Sorry for this franchise.. They need a new coach.. Black can't give Meralco results that the franchise wants...It's time to put Jong Uichico or maybe hire a foreign coach to elevate this franchise into greater success...
            Originally posted by Rds View Post
            I agree with this. Black built his reputation winning the Grandslam for a star studded SMB team.
            Originally posted by robert0326
            MVP group has ton of good coaches.. Black can be a assistant of coach Tab at Gilas or go back at Ateneo then Tab will be full time coach for Gilas.. Black's coaching in the PBA already checkmate by either CTC or Coach Chito V., Then Meralco should find a real franchise player to elevate their team into greater heights.. Newsome is not a go to guy material, neither Belo or Maliksi.. They have a mistake by snubbing Romeo before after TNT wants to put him to Meralco.. Romeo can lead this team.. Now, Meralco should find a guy that can save them at crunchtime, a guy who can score any given day.. possible targets are Wright, Bolick or even Munzon.. They have trade assets to get a scorer..
            Black's a good defensive coach, and MERALCO has good defensive players. They rotate well on defense. I think pwede silang pang-FIBA pagdating sa defensive system.

            However, Black's lacking in offensive creativity, and MERALCO lacks good shot creators and scorers. MERALCO will need to get some firepower, since that was basically the only difference between them and Magnolia the past series. They basically had no equivalent to Lee-Sangalang-Abueva.

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            • Originally posted by robert0326
              Remove Cabagnot at starting 5 and put Perez as starter, Cabagnot's era is gone already... Same with Arwind.. But the thing is they don't have a legit 4 spot to replace Arwind.. Expect SMB to harvest either Malonzo or either Terrafirma's pick / Northport's pick to get a legit 4 spot guy.. Baltazar will be that guy for SMB but he will be MVP bound, as he will likely to be next year's top pick by Blackwater elite...
              Actually, mas kailangan ng SMB ang wing. Kasi, eto. Their 3 position is occupied by shooting guards. Marcio, Pessumal, now Perez. That's basically a three-guard lineup. But if that's the best lineup in the PBA, go for it.

              As for Malonzo, that actually solves SMB's need at both forward positions, since he's tall enough to play 4, and mobile enough to play 3. Plus, they can get another wing in import conferences, which, when combined with Malonzo, will provide them with the versatility to play big or small ajd not give up too much size in the process.

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              • Originally posted by Rodbi View Post
                I guess it's time for PBA and lesser pro leagues to genuinely open up to PHL talents under 21. Aside from having a lot if potential stars in that age group, i don't think this current overseas recruitment won't stop any time soon. So bago pa sila maunahan ng mga leagues outside PHL, it's better to make way for those talented kids sooner rather than later.
                Yeah, especially given that the collegiate leagues are kinda uncertain. Young talents should be able to displace players who can't play at a certain level.

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                • Originally posted by IPC View Post
                  Actually, mas kailangan ng SMB ang wing. Kasi, eto. Their 3 position is occupied by shooting guards. Marcio, Pessumal, now Perez. That's basically a three-guard lineup. But if that's the best lineup in the PBA, go for it.

                  As for Malonzo, that actually solves SMB's need at both forward positions, since he's tall enough to play 4, and mobile enough to play 3. Plus, they can get another wing in import conferences, which, when combined with Malonzo, will provide them with the versatility to play big or small ajd not give up too much size in the process.
                  MGR's stint with SMB was such a waste. He looked confident and effective as a point forward on most of TF's games this conference.

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                  • Originally posted by IPC View Post
                    Yeah, especially given that the collegiate leagues are kinda uncertain. Young talents should be able to displace players who can't play at a certain level.
                    This might also encourage college players, specially those with high potentials, to shorten their college basketball stints. Perhaps guys like Tamayo, Quiambao, Cholo Anonuevo, RJ Abarrientos would play college basketball for only 2 to 3 yrs before turning pro.

                    BTW, I expect some of these players to get offers from B-league teams in a year or 2 from now.

                    I think this would be a good development. I'm already tired of seeing some 24 to 25 yrs old players still playing collegiate basketball. It would be good to see naman some 20, 21, 22 year old players climbing to the pro ranks.
                    "A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV

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                    • Originally posted by JAMSKIE View Post
                      This might also encourage college players, specially those with high potentials, to shorten their college basketball stints. Perhaps guys like Tamayo, Quiambao, Cholo Anonuevo, RJ Abarrientos would play college basketball for only 2 to 3 yrs before turning pro.

                      BTW, I expect some of these players to get offers from B-league teams in a year or 2 from now.

                      I think this would be a good development. I'm already tired of seeing some 24 to 25 yrs old players still playing collegiate basketball. It would be good to see naman some 20, 21, 22 year old players climbing to the pro ranks.
                      I honestly believe that it would be better for our amateur players to turn pro now as the 2 year layoff from basketball is really bad for their development. We're gonna be stuck with 27 year old college players if our collegiate leagues don't open up soon

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                      • Originally posted by thatweirdguy View Post
                        I honestly believe that it would be better for our amateur players to turn pro now as the 2 year layoff from basketball is really bad for their development. We're gonna be stuck with 27 year old college players if our collegiate leagues don't open up soon
                        I think some current college players are already ripe to turn pro. But most are "hilaw" pa. I think guys like Tamayo & Dave Ildefonso are already ripe to play pro basketball. But guys like Quiambao, RJ Abarrientos, Belangel, Evan Nelle & Cholo Anonuevo are still raw. I give them 1 or 2 more years before they can turn pro.
                        "A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV

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                        • Originally posted by Rodbi View Post
                          MGR's stint with SMB was such a waste. He looked confident and effective as a point forward on most of TF's games this conference.
                          Strange that he couldn't find consistent rotation minutes after a decent Gilas stint. He was only a situational guy in SMB. Maybe he didn't fit their system, which requires the 1 through 4 to shoot.

                          If he didn't fit them, why trade for him in the first place?

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                          • Originally posted by IPC View Post
                            Strange that he couldn't find consistent rotation minutes after a decent Gilas stint. He was only a situational guy in SMB. Maybe he didn't fit their system, which requires the 1 through 4 to shoot.

                            If he didn't fit them, why trade for him in the first place?
                            I was wondering why TNT traded him for journeyman RR Garcia, btw who initiated the trade, was it SMB? though looking back it seems like a trade which favors SMB, though TNT needed a backup PG that time, though the texteres could have just signed any random PGs as they are dime a dozen in the Philippines

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                            • Originally posted by robert0326
                              Nash racela like most of feu guys.. Garcia trade was Nash idea because he was one of his players back in feu.. his only good move was getting rr pogoy last 2016.. he was also responsible of one of the worst trade in TNT's history by trading quality big man tautuaa over time bomb/tricky guy Terrence Romeo.. one of the worst decisions he made.. they can get Romeo even w/o trading tautuaa because Northport has no choice that time.. tnt can take that advantage on Romeo's issue
                              totally forgot that Nash was the coach of TNT during that time, thanks for the info

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                              • Originally posted by IPC View Post
                                Strange that he couldn't find consistent rotation minutes after a decent Gilas stint. He was only a situational guy in SMB. Maybe he didn't fit their system, which requires the 1 through 4 to shoot.

                                If he didn't fit them, why trade for him in the first place?
                                Strange indeed. Probably, they saw him as a poor man's Gabe Norwood - good enough for PBA but will never be like how Gabe was in his prime years. But even so, SMB should have given him enough playing time to get accustomed to their style of play. The way I saw it, he could have been Arwind's immediate successor that time.

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