Philippine PBA Trades, Releases, Sign-ups, Rumours (vol. III)

[live_evil]

talked to a lawyer friend, the draft dodger rule can easily be contested in court because it actually bans all male Filipino citizens who have graduated from college which doesn't make sense. And who gets to judge who should be banned? A super basketball player in the mountains of Sulu since that person is not famous if he applies for the draft way after his graduation will not get the ban since he is not famous. The classification is obviously arbitrary and no way conforms to laws that make sense. The draft dodger rule is simply put, unconstitutional.

I am proposing that everyone here collectively files a suit against the PBA because we are all banned and have had our employment options curtailed by being all draft dodgers. haha

[CoJ]

talked to a lawyer friend, the draft dodger rule can easily be contested in court because it actually bans all male Filipino citizens who have graduated from college which doesn't make sense. And who gets to judge who should be banned? A super basketball player in the mountains of Sulu since that person is not famous if he applies for the draft way after his graduation will not get the ban since he is not famous. The classification is obviously arbitrary and no way conforms to laws that make sense. The draft dodger rule is simply put, unconstitutional.

I am proposing that everyone here collectively files a suit against the PBA because we are all banned and have had our employment options curtailed by being all draft dodgers. haha

the draft dodger rule doesnt even apply to fil-foreign players jusko

they really need to unionize, but players from the empire are too content with their perks, bonuses and retirement packages

[JAMSKIE]

talked to a lawyer friend, the draft dodger rule can easily be contested in court because it actually bans all male Filipino citizens who have graduated from college which doesn't make sense. And who gets to judge who should be banned? A super basketball player in the mountains of Sulu since that person is not famous if he applies for the draft way after his graduation will not get the ban since he is not famous. The classification is obviously arbitrary and no way conforms to laws that make sense. The draft dodger rule is simply put, unconstitutional.

I am proposing that everyone here collectively files a suit against the PBA because we are all banned and have had our employment options curtailed by being all draft dodgers. haha

Here's another thing, what if the reason of a certain player for "delaying" his entry to the PBA is that he wants to play for the national team - something which he might not be able to do if he is already in the PBA?

How can one be "punished" for his desire of serving the country? Is this the price of being patriotic & wanting to help Philippine basketball - lifetime ban from playing in the PBA?

I wonder if PBA people even bothered to consult a lawyer about the "Constitutionality" (or lack of it) of this shitty anti-dodging law?

[cocoyg]

We don't want the PBA to die or disappear. We want it to evolve.

It's weird that the PBA Board seems resistant to change. If you work for one of their companies, the management always encourages "change".

[JuanBreezy]

E bakit nun si Junemar na pwedeng pwede na magpa draft sa PBA e naglaro sa ABL at walang lumitaw na draft dodger rule? Hehehe.

[IPC]

PBA would die naturally let's just wait for it, the so called superstars of the league right now are getting older while our younger generations of player are getting smarter and starting to realize that PBA sucks and baduy. sort of more of a millenial thing lol playing abroad is way more cooler than playing locally. it is like idolizing BTS now than parokya ni edgar, rivermaya etc. ��

Hey, I prefer Pinoy rock (90s to mid-2000s; E-heads, Rivermaya, Introvoys, Neocolours) to K-pop. It's better listening, honestly, and I personally think it's better. Shame we couldn't get that international recognition in music then.

As for the PBA, yeah, while I root for my team, and it's entertainment, the system sucks. Only a few teams invest in player development. Then the rules curtailing our players from going international. Then the stupid scheduling interfering with the international tournament schedule, starting from the Narvasa period, ultimately resulting in two drubbings from SoKor and the relatively poor 2017 FIBA Asia Cup performance, not to mention the 2019 WC fiasco.

[JAMSKIE]

@ IPC

If Thirdy Ravena decides to play for the B-league next season, does that make him a violator of the anti-dodging rule?

[IPC]

@ IPC

If Thirdy Ravena decides to play for the B-league next season, does that make him a violator of the anti-dodging rule?

Yeah, I think that does. He's already skipped two drafts. So if he wants to file a case if he wants to apply for the draft but is barred, he has the personality to do so.

Of course, that would be a moot point if the PBA somehow responds positively to his letter.

[JAMSKIE]

Yeah, I think that does. He's already skipped two drafts. So if he wants to file a case if he wants to apply for the draft but is barred, he has the personality to do so.

Of course, that would be a moot point if the PBA somehow responds positively to his letter.

Ah Ok.

That letter thing somewhat makes me mad. Thirdy Ravena has to sort of ask PBA's consent or clearance that he will play pro basketball in Japan. This to think that Thirdy isn't part of the PBA yet. Pero obligado syang magpaalam sa PBA. This gives us the impression na parang may feeling of "ownership" ang PBA for every Pinoy amateur player that is eligible to play in the PBA.

Wow! Only in the Philippines!

[CoJ]

PBA would die naturally let's just wait for it, the so called superstars of the league right now are getting older while our younger generations of player are getting smarter and starting to realize that PBA sucks and baduy. sort of more of a millenial thing lol playing abroad is way more cooler than playing locally. it is like idolizing BTS now than parokya ni edgar, rivermaya etc. ��

i want to agree with you but KPOP and BTS, eww hahaha, their fanbase is more toxic and jeje than PBA fans

edit: not all pba fans ah!

Ely, Raymund,Buddy and Marcus parin

[IPC]

I don't agree with the draft dodger rule but correct me if I'm wrong, one of the requirements to make it to the PBA is to play at least 7 games in a PBA Developmental League?

Ergo what the PBA is banning are those who meet the age or college graduate or 4 yrs out of HS who also played at least 7 games in the DLeague - in effect once you've played in the DLeague the PBA in effect can claim some sort of rights over you. Is that unconstitutional or not, considering the DLeague is a feeder league to the PBA.

Has Kobe Paras played in the DLeague? Maybe that explains why the PBA is not that vocal about him.

There's an exception to the rule, actually: https://sports.inquirer.net/184481/d...aft-applicants

The D-League requirement is waived once the amateur has played for the national team. So guys like Thirdy, GDL brothers, and Kobe are now eligible. Dwight, Tamayo, Lopez, Chiu, Baltazar, Cariño, Ildefonso, Belangel and Abarrientos will be eligible after their collegiate stints without the need of a D-League requirement.

[IPC]

i want to agree with you but KPOP and BTS, eww hahaha, their fanbase is more toxic and jeje than PBA fans

Ely, Raymund,Buddy and Marcus parin

Even with the recent statements from Ely and I think Raimund that they were never friends, what matters is that their music is so timeless and relatable (especially the first two lines of the chorus of "Pare Ko").

[ja.he]

PBA would die naturally let's just wait for it, the so called superstars of the league right now are getting older while our younger generations of player are getting smarter and starting to realize that PBA sucks and baduy. sort of more of a millenial thing lol playing abroad is way more cooler than playing locally. it is like idolizing BTS now than parokya ni edgar, rivermaya etc. ��

I agree with you on the PBA part but not in the OPM part. Rivermaya's songs are poetries disguising as songs.

[IPC]

Pba play culture simply has strayed too far and too long away from fiba nt styles.

Some correctly noted that its best player fajardo is not fiba nt ready, and its best pba coach cone uses ancient plays that can be easily destroyed by mere asian top nts.

Or to put it bluntly, pba plays have deteriorated to the point that these work only against pinoy player and team weaknesses.

Eto talaga. In terms of tactics, nagpag-iiwanan na ang PBA. Just get the talent to win, and then on defense, just pack the paint since we're not that consistent in shooting (despite a higher volume of threes).

TNT has a nice offensive system. Kaso lang, they don't make enough shots, relying instead on their offensive rebounding.

Ginebra, well, Cone adapted his triangle to include more ball screen actions for his guards and to accommodate stretch bigs like JDV and Caperal. Defensively is where they'll have a problem. Cone's teams collapse in the paint, sacrificing 3-point shots. A good enough shooting team will burn that defense, like what has been repeatedly said in this forum. However, Cone is willing to play JDV, Arvin, and Aljon as wings. He's trying to modernize a bit.

Phoenix also has a similar offense to TNT, using real small ball concepts with Abueva (a true small ball 4) at 4. They can shoot it, and emphasize their shooters in their plays. Perkins is also used as a point forward.

PBA teams are adapting, but not nearly enough. A FIBA-style offense and defense need to win in the PBA. Sino kaya 'yun?

[Athrunzala]

Mabuti pa ang B.League maraming European coaches kaya marami kang matututunan, laos na ang triangle offense