Philippine PBA Trades, Releases, Sign-ups, Rumours (vol. III)

[IPC]

I think Quinahan, Soyud, Miranda can handle the duties right now.. Taulava's spot can be useful to other bigs who are younger and can be developed by CYG.. Sayang roster spot for him.. It's now time to Asi to hang on his jersey.. He can be a big man coach to NLEX and even for Gilas... Atleast may work parin sya.. Pareho lang sila ni Caguioa na tumutungga nalang ng Gatorade sa bench eh!!!

Asi's probably just after the records now, just like Caguioa.

As for Quiñahan, Miranda, and Soyud, they're quality 6'6" bigs who can play both big positions. However, they're kinda more suited to the 4. They need a bigger presence beside them, though they can play small-ball center for stretches.

[thatweirdguy]

Asi's probably just after the records now, just like Caguioa.

As for Quiñahan, Miranda, and Soyud, they're quality 6'6" bigs who can play both big positions. However, they're kinda more suited to the 4. They need a bigger presence beside them, though they can play small-ball center for stretches.

Don't wanna make this about height again but Quinahan is just 6'3. It was discussed here before.. Miranda and Soyud probably isn't 6'6 either. Sanggalang always looked taller than Miranda to me. They need a real bigman

[mathematicianrcg]

Don't wanna make this about height again but Quinahan is just 6'3. It was discussed here before.. Miranda and Soyud probably isn't 6'6 either. Sanggalang always looked taller than Miranda to me. They need a real bigman

I dont get why Pba cannot measure height more accurately.

Troy is obviously not 6'7

I have doubt if Arwind is really legit 6'4"

[Jackie Reaper]

Don't wanna make this about height again but Quinahan is just 6'3. It was discussed here before.. Miranda and Soyud probably isn't 6'6 either. Sanggalang always looked taller than Miranda to me. They need a real bigman

They can actually get Seraj Elmejrab in the free agency. He is the biggest there. 27 years old and 6'7 tall. Slow but wide which can actually be useful in defending the likes of Slaughter and Junmar.

[thatweirdguy]

I dont get why Pba cannot measure height more accurately.

Troy is obviously not 6'7

I have doubt if Arwind is really legit 6'4"

Arwind is just 6'2.. Troy is just 6'5 something. The PBA actually implements a good measuring system despite some questionable import measurements. It's just that people kept on using their previous listed heights despite their new measurements.

[thatweirdguy]

They can actually get Seraj Elmejrab in the free agency. He is the biggest there. 27 years old and 6'7 tall. Slow but wide which can actually be useful in defending the likes of Slaughter and Junmar.

They should. And he really should give Shaw a chance. He worked with slow fat guys who's shorter than him before. He might make something out of him

[zairex]

Maybe Shaw is not worth it. Imagine coming to Blackwater not in basketball shape. Hows his dedication? Basketball is not all about height. If so, China will be able to beat Top ten national teams.

[greenarcher]

Nico Salva out of Meralco

[ja.he]

Well most players even in the NBA list their heights with shoes on thus the discrepancy of 1.5"-2" vs their barefoot measurements.

At the end of they day ALL of them play in sneakers anyway so the padded heights balances everything out.

More than height I'm more concerned with a player's weight and muscle to fat ratio since this correlates well with strength. I'll put my money 24/7 on a strong and well built 6'8 vs a reed thin 6'11 big man.

Same thing with 6'0-6'5 players but their bodies have been drowning with fats.

[zairex]

Regarding the players who are too small for their position, I said they have a place in the highest level, so long as their skillsets are comparable to that of a Castro, Jimmy, Abueva, Pingris, RDO, Perkins. In short, they have to be that kind of special.

Regarding height limits and tall imports, it should be a norm here, so that our bigs, who are usually 6'5" to 6'8", will be forced to learn to either play PF so they can play alongside them. A lot of bigs play behind taller foreigners, because they typically have redundant skillsets with the foreigners, which is rebound and be a presence inside. We have a height is might philosophy, so instead of playing 6'2"-6'5" traditional PF's, why not develop the 6'6"-6'8" bigs to play PF alongside the tall import? Because if you can't play alongside the tall foreigner, you're naturally going to play behind him. And also, 6'6"-6'8" bigs who either can play PF or have a modern big's skillset will be more useful. Besides, if you have bigs like Greg, June Mar, Japeth, Erram, and Standhardinger, you can always opt for a smaller import, like Brownlee and Durham. I mean, whenever Brownlee is available, Ginebra always opted to get him over a taller import, even during the Commissioner's Cup (where he won Best Import).

I agree with you about limiting imports so as not to stymie the locals' development, especially that of the bigs, but at the same time, let's raise standards, starting from the grassroots level. Protectionism is fine, we need it for development, but if we overdo it, we might not develop our players properly. I admit, you have a point that if we allow too many foreigners, our locals might not develop. We'll have to find a balance. I think playing a 6'6"-6'8" big alongside a 6'10-6'11" import would work, or playing a 6'6"-6'8" foreigner alongside a 6'9"-6'10" local.

I understand your point.

But let's be realistic, How wiill you judge and say that a player is small and not so great PG. Can you name 5 of them and who should replace them. How do you eliminating this small and not so great PG

Not all 6'8 and taller our athletic and have the coordination to play, even Haddadi is not athletic.and shoot from a far consistently in his prime.

Now in the PBA who is this big man that doesn't have a mid to 3pt range shot. It all started with CYG in the 2000s this stretch 4. Even in college who can't stretch the floor with their outside shooting.

About Brownlee height type imports. This helps us to learn to defend athletic wings. Remember, in World Cup, we got killed by wing players too. So defending them is useful and thats why I contradict Coach Tab on import vs import match up only.

[DAdmiral]

Its because big corporate can easily go around the contracts, a player can always have 2 contracts - a UPC for PBA related work (max P350K) and another employment contract with the company itself either as an endorser or in some other special capacity, and in most cases they might even earn more money with their side contracts.

In that case because it is unrealistic to monitor or police under the table payments , a policy regulator that is more realistically implementable should be put into place., no im not talking of having an offcial look at trades which one can bribe anyway.
But litterally put hard rules , such as cannot trade draft picks for like 5 years ( im not saying this should be the rule , but explicit rule regulations with no interpretation required can potentially be put in place .
The other potential policy is to put incentive in putting balance.. how is this possible. Classify the players from A to E. using a defined metric , A level -player is a mytical 5 player or avg 20 pts a game (example) only. And basically say each team only can have 3 - A players , 3 B players, 3, C players and so on.

I mean it's kind of stupid that PBA has a limited import height rule yet has no rules at all for competitive balance. kalokohan talaga. who the heck runs these leagues , parang grade school mag isip

[Rodbi]

Wow just wow. This forum said PBA is racist because of rule on Fil Fors. Then we will be racist on our own people because of being small. Have you seen B.League ang how tall are their point guards. Even now, who in B. league have been best asian PG in Fiba tournaments. Even now a health Castro and even LA will be a handful on those B.League PG japanese. I dont know why are we so in Love with B.league.

I like the imports have height limit. Becauseas just like B.League we will just get tall players if there is no height restrictions. Atleast we learn to defend players like Brownlee or Durham. If we will allow multiple imports then alot more local will not develop. Which is why China now has a new rule on imports. One import in the floor at a time to develop more local chinese and not rely on imports all the time.

And once again Korea league similar to us and had better performance and beaten Japan. Korean beat NZ 2 times without a Naturalized player. We have beaten Japan more than Korea.

I somehow agree with most of your points, especially the import usage rule in the CBA. But let's face it, Pinoy ballers at all levels (HS, college, pros) of play still need to get used to much taller opposition in the domestic scene. If only the organizers in the HS level would only allow FSAs and attract appropriately-sized mixed Pinoy HS kids to try the competition in the PHL, I think it would force our vertically-challenged homegrown bigs to come out of their comfort zones and learn guard/wing skills.

[IPC]

Arwind is just 6'2.. Troy is just 6'5 something. The PBA actually implements a good measuring system despite some questionable import measurements. It's just that people kept on using their previous listed heights despite their new measurements.

I think they should just list the heights from their measuring system to avoid confusion.

[ja.he]

I think they should just list the heights from their measuring system to avoid confusion.

For me, height should be measured with shoes because players are not playing basketball barefoot.

Besides, putting shoes will just add player's height with only 1 inch. My height is 172cm (5'7 1/2) barefoot. With shoes, my height is 175cm (5'9) - that's only 3cm (1.5 inch).

Using the same manner, Isaac Go's height without shoes is only 199cm (6'6 1/2). With shoes, he is around 202cm (6'7 1/2).

[zairex]

In that case because it is unrealistic to monitor or police under the table payments , a policy regulator that is more realistically implementable should be put into place., no im not talking of having an offcial look at trades which one can bribe anyway.
But litterally put hard rules , such as cannot trade draft picks for like 5 years ( im not saying this should be the rule , but explicit rule regulations with no interpretation required can potentially be put in place .
The other potential policy is to put incentive in putting balance.. how is this possible. Classify the players from A to E. using a defined metric , A level -player is a mytical 5 player or avg 20 pts a game (example) only. And basically say each team only can have 3 - A players , 3 B players, 3, C players and so on.

I mean it's kind of stupid that PBA has a limited import height rule yet has no rules at all for competitive balance. kalokohan talaga. who the heck runs these leagues , parang grade school mag isip

NBL did this Player Points Ranking (PPR) but a lot of issues arise such as no free agency. As you can't go to a team you wish because of your high PPR and the team already exhaust its PPR allocation to their current roster. Actually the player's union wants to eliminate it https://www.theage.com.au/sport/bask...324-2go26.html