Philippine PBA Trades, Releases, Sign-ups, Rumours (vol. III)

[Jackie Reaper]

I agree. After all, it's mostly for the height (no stupid height limits, please) and athleticism why PBA teams will be after these 2 kinds of imports in the first place, and even if already in their 30's, could still give quality for teams in the 3, 4 and 5 positions.

This is basically the lesser version of B.League since in that league, teams can sign 3 imports + Asian import/Naturalized Player. In my suggestion, PBA teams can sign 1 open import, 1 FSA/NP and 1 APAC player. This way, PBA will learn different things from these players.

[IPC]

This is basically the lesser version of B.League since in that league, teams can sign 3 imports + Asian import/Naturalized Player. In my suggestion, PBA teams can sign 1 open import, 1 FSA/NP and 1 APAC player. This way, PBA will learn different things from these players.

We'll just have to prepare for the 'sayang talent' arguments if this idea is even put forward.

[Jackie Reaper]

We'll just have to prepare for the 'sayang talent' arguments if this idea is even put forward.

What talent? Those short and not-so-exceptional guards that should not be playing pro basketball in the first place? Those slow, lumbering, and Shaq wannabe 6'4-6'5 bigmen who should have trained to be a big guard or a wing or even a stretch big (ala-RDO)?

Having slot for FSA/NP and APAC not only elevates the game in PBA but also adds the excitement since you can really get skilled APAC players and hardworking FSAs/NPs.

Imagine, Alaska with Tratter, Eboña, Herndorn, Teng and DiGregorio. Replace Eboña, Herndorn and Tratter with let's say Te Rangi as APAC player, McDaniel as Open Import, and Oraeme as FSA and relegate the first 3 players at the bench, they will have a deep bench.

[Rodbi]

This is basically the lesser version of B.League since in that league, teams can sign 3 imports + Asian import/Naturalized Player. In my suggestion, PBA teams can sign 1 open import, 1 FSA/NP and 1 APAC player. This way, PBA will learn different things from these players.

Or 2 world imports, instead of 1 each for APAC, FSA and NP slots. Rich and loaded teams like SMB, BGSM and TNT would prefer this more.

[Jackie Reaper]

Or 2 world imports, instead of 1 each for APAC, FSA and NP slots. Rich and loaded teams like SMB, BGSM and TNT would prefer this more.

APAC should be there to promote cooperation and goodwill among domestic leagues in Asia-Pacific while FSA slot should be a reward for foreign athletes who either studied, reside or chose to be a Filipino citizen.

[CoJ]

All great ideas, unfortunately the cartel that is the PBA leans more toward entertainment rather than player development nor upskilling the Pinoy basketball player.

If the PBA can threaten top amateurs of a ban for skipping the draft and playing overseas as well as blackballing a player with an expired contract what more opening up the league to more foreigners at the expense of locals.

Remember Tab Baldwin already had a proposal like which was promptly shutdown by Alfranchis Chua as anti-Filipino and nonsense.

This is why I always say that the PBA is an exclusive club for billionaires and C level execs, they have a different agenda altogether and they make their own rules even if it makes them operate beyond the boundaries of Philippine law.

i have a gut feel that long hair will embrace this system if he finally find ways how to maximize/overkill the fsa/asian import/world import system..and by that time we will be complaining that SMC is hording the best FSAs hehe

[IPC]

i have a gut feel that long hair will embrace this system if he finally find ways how to maximize/overkill the fsa/asian import/world import system..and by that time we will be complaining that SMC is hording the best FSAs hehe

I'll take that if it improves the standard of play in the PBA. Of course, being a fan of an SMC team, that's a bit of a bonus. Hahahahahahahaha.

[Jackie Reaper]

i have a gut feel that long hair will embrace this system if he finally find ways how to maximize/overkill the fsa/asian import/world import system..and by that time we will be complaining that SMC is hording the best FSAs hehe

I'll take that if it improves the standard of play in the PBA. Of course, being a fan of an SMC team, that's a bit of a bonus. Hahahahahahahaha.

If SMB gets Ben Mbala, Dez Wells, and Chris Goulding as their reinforcements, I'm fine with that.

[IPC]

If SMB gets Ben Mbala, Dez Wells, and Chris Goulding as their reinforcements, I'm fine with that.

That's a team fight in the making.

[IPC]

What talent? Those short and not-so-exceptional guards that should not be playing pro basketball in the first place? Those slow, lumbering, and Shaq wannabe 6'4-6'5 bigmen who should have trained to be a big guard or a wing or even a stretch big (ala-RDO)?

Having slot for FSA/NP and APAC not only elevates the game in PBA but also adds the excitement since you can really get skilled APAC players and hardworking FSAs/NPs.

Imagine, Alaska with Tratter, Eboña, Herndorn, Teng and DiGregorio. Replace Eboña, Herndorn and Tratter with let's say Te Rangi as APAC player, McDaniel as Open Import, and Oraeme as FSA and relegate the first 3 players at the bench, they will have a deep bench.

I hear you regarding the short guards (which all teams seem to have abundance of) and Shaq wannabe 6'4"-6'5" bigs. The only midgets for their position that should be in the PBA should have a good skillset, like LA Tenorio, Jimmy Alapag, Calvin Abueva, Ping, and Perkins. There's also the PG-sized wings who measure 6'1"-6'3", when I think 6'4" should be the minimum for an SF (and maybe a small-ball PF), and the 6'6"-6'8" centers who can't play PF or be a small-ball center (guys with skillsets like Troy, Erram, Beau, Quiñahan, Perkins, Tautuaa, Standhardinger, probably Chua, Caperal, and the RoS and NLEX bigs), and thus are unplayable alongside imports (although the numbers of those types are decreasing, thank God).

The foreigners will be a breath of fresh air, I agree, and might force a change in the PBA's play style. But like I said, there might be pushback from fans with the talent argument I said.

[zairex]

Wow just wow. This forum said PBA is racist because of rule on Fil Fors. Then we will be racist on our own people because of being small. Have you seen B.League ang how tall are their point guards. Even now, who in B. league have been best asian PG in Fiba tournaments. Even now a health Castro and even LA will be a handful on those B.League PG japanese. I dont know why are we so in Love with B.league.

I like the imports have height limit. Becauseas just like B.League we will just get tall players if there is no height restrictions. Atleast we learn to defend players like Brownlee or Durham. If we will allow multiple imports then alot more local will not develop. Which is why China now has a new rule on imports. One import in the floor at a time to develop more local chinese and not rely on imports all the time.

And once again Korea league similar to us and had better performance and beaten Japan. Korean beat NZ 2 times without a Naturalized player. We have beaten Japan more than Korea.

[IPC]

Wow just wow. This forum said PBA is racist because of rule on Fil Fors. Then we will be racist on our own people because of being small. Have you seen B.League ang how tall are their point guards. Even now, who in B. league have been best asian PG in Fiba tournaments. Even now a health Castro and even LA will be a handful on those B.League PG japanese. I dont know why are we so in Love with B.league.

I like the imports have height limit. Becauseas just like B.League we will just get tall players if there is no height restrictions. Atleast we learn to defend players like Brownlee or Durham. If we will allow multiple imports then alot more local will not develop. Which is why China now has a new rule on imports. One import in the floor at a time to develop more local chinese and not rely on imports all the time.

And once again Korea league similar to us and had better performance and beaten Japan. Korean beat NZ 2 times without a Naturalized player. We have beaten Japan more than Korea.

Regarding the players who are too small for their position, I said they have a place in the highest level, so long as their skillsets are comparable to that of a Castro, Jimmy, Abueva, Pingris, RDO, Perkins. In short, they have to be that kind of special.

Regarding height limits and tall imports, it should be a norm here, so that our bigs, who are usually 6'5" to 6'8", will be forced to learn to either play PF so they can play alongside them. A lot of bigs play behind taller foreigners, because they typically have redundant skillsets with the foreigners, which is rebound and be a presence inside. We have a height is might philosophy, so instead of playing 6'2"-6'5" traditional PF's, why not develop the 6'6"-6'8" bigs to play PF alongside the tall import? Because if you can't play alongside the tall foreigner, you're naturally going to play behind him. And also, 6'6"-6'8" bigs who either can play PF or have a modern big's skillset will be more useful. Besides, if you have bigs like Greg, June Mar, Japeth, Erram, and Standhardinger, you can always opt for a smaller import, like Brownlee and Durham. I mean, whenever Brownlee is available, Ginebra always opted to get him over a taller import, even during the Commissioner's Cup (where he won Best Import).

I agree with you about limiting imports so as not to stymie the locals' development, especially that of the bigs, but at the same time, let's raise standards, starting from the grassroots level. Protectionism is fine, we need it for development, but if we overdo it, we might not develop our players properly. I admit, you have a point that if we allow too many foreigners, our locals might not develop. We'll have to find a balance. I think playing a 6'6"-6'8" big alongside a 6'10-6'11" import would work, or playing a 6'6"-6'8" foreigner alongside a 6'9"-6'10" local.

[CoJ]

Speaking of past their primes.. Asi Taulava says he's not ready yet to retire.. Masyadong gahaman sa roster spot.. Wala parin bang Ipon tito Asi? He's already 22 years in the league but still no savings with his colorful career in the past? He should give way his spot to Shaw..

https://tiebreakertimes.com.ph/tbt/a...ew-role/204547

sometimes i think that maybe Taulava is still better than most of our 6'5 and above stiffs that's why he's still in the lineup.

[thatweirdguy]

Too expensive for them.. Most of the teams have limited funds, especially farm teams.. They will not like that idea finacially.. Last time we accept Asian imports, Only half of them take Asian imports... Financially it's not a good idea..

That's another problem in the PBA. Not all of them are in it to compete. How are they supposed to compete with SMC and MVP teams if they don't want to spend like the 2 empires. It is a competition and they should be doing everything to close the gap in talent. Championships don't come cheap.

[DAdmiral]

i sound like a broken record here, there really is a root to all of these systemic issues,
When regulations such as salary cap are meaningless and what drives or dictates things is political wealth as a result of open capitalism. or sometimes desrcribed as commercialism gone amok. you basically have screwed up system impacting society.. and yes it impacts sustainable progress. welbeing of the general population or players is essentially thrown out