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True... But its always a question availability... Marcio has been injury prone and will be 35-36 in 2023....Wright is a litte bit soft on defense.Last edited by sajubeads; 02-24-2020, 12:09 AM. -
Compare pogoy to the likes of chan, fonacier, gary david, old dhontz. He is miles ahead. Point is, Pogoy is in gilas not because of tnt-affiliation.Comment
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For me Pogoy over Wright anytime. Pogoy plays bigger than his size while Matt is soft and plays smaller than his 6'4 height..Originally posted by mathematicianrcg View PostComment
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Wright can be good if used well. Pogoy is lucky in coach dickel's system. Evident when coach yeng is the coach, pogoy sucks.Originally posted by tomcat View Post
A great player will always be great no matter who the coach is. For example, Cj perez.
Wright and Pogoy are both system players. But atleast wright manage to be the star in phoenix.
And wright has more great games than pogoy.Comment
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The problem with wright is he can't shoot or scared to shoot vs tall defender and his very soft on defense.
For now Pogoy over him no question but hopefully soon we can replace Pogoy with our other players there's parks, Kobe, Javi, ramos, navarro, ildefonso, abando etcLast edited by THE_GOAT; 02-24-2020, 01:34 AM.Comment
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wright actually was bad in yeng's system. he was firing blanks in the qualifiers, not part of world cup roster, labelled as soft in the forums (does not respond well to yeng curses?).Originally posted by mathematicianrcg View Post
pogoy sucks in yeng's system as well because he has to create on his own one-on-one. if only tasked to do 3-and-D, he is an asset, have to see how he performs in Korea-level teams in Dickel/Tab system.
CJ perez is best in open court. though not magnified, maybe not optimal in a system, i have to re-watch how he played when playing offensive sets in Indo game (taken out early in 3rd qtr) because all the highlights are layups-from-turnovers. he gambles too much in defense, not sure if he is disciplined enough for a Korea-level opponent.Comment
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Thats what i noticed alao about CJ in that Indon game... Nasanay na sa PBA's isolation and solo play, lacjs discipline actually both in offense ans defense, masyado nag gagamble for steal that leads to open shots or foul... But a good transition open court player... If just in the Indonesia game Thirdy played better as he played within the system, better defense and good passes. Couod be due to familiarity of Thirdy to the system...Originally posted by noyce View PostComment
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CJ perez could still be good disruptor (ala better Cyrus Baguio in 2009 vs SoKor), maybe serviceable in spurts for Gilas. hopefully CJ plays in next windowOriginally posted by sajubeads View PostComment
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true. he is good in both offense and defense. although guarding a pg wasnt his strong side he is more of a wing defender. he recognized mismatches and post up prastawa.Originally posted by lurklurk View PostThe message you have entered is too short. Please lengthen your message to at least 5 characters.Comment
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if he is still with columbian then he could and he can. if he gets traded to smb then yeah nah.Originally posted by noyce View PostThe message you have entered is too short. Please lengthen your message to at least 5 characters.Comment
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pogoy is a true swingman, who is most adept playing 2 and 3 on both ends. He shouldn't be asked to defend against PGs.Originally posted by digitalsuperman View Post“I never realised that to be a jockey you had to be a horse first.”
-Arrigo SacchiComment
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only if he was at least 6'6Originally posted by mangangalakal View Post"How small ball works: Tall Skilled beats small skilled every time,but small skilled beats tall stiff every time" - Kevin McHaleComment
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we're not talking about ideal heights here but the realities of the situation. fact is Pogoy has played as a swingman throughout his career for FEU, TNT and Gilas despite not being 6'6. Same is true for Jeff Chan, Cyrus Baguio, Hontiveros, Matthew Wright etc etc, It's a consequence of our general lack of height.Originally posted by Alex07 View Post“I never realised that to be a jockey you had to be a horse first.”
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Are you serious bro???? Jeff chan was a marked shooter last fiba world cup 2014. Opponents treats him as our best shooter besides alapag.Originally posted by lurklurk View Post
Fonacier too is an efficient shooter. But yeah you can argue about old gary and old dhontz. But if pogoy is in the level of an old players, then he is not that good.
Miles ahead?????LOL. Jeff and Larry contributed more in fiba world cup 2014 than pogoy contributed in fiba wold cup 2019.
And I believe our opponents last 2014 was tougherComment
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The thing about Pogoy is that, about 4 to 5 years ago only a few (or perhaps nobody) thought that he would become a National team material. We have to remember, Pogoy wasn't really a superstar in college basketball. I think the Teng brothers - Jeric & Jeron, were bigger stars than Pogoy. Yet Pogoy has been a National team mainstay for almost 4 years now.Originally posted by lurklurk View Post
He may not have made as much impact as a Jeff Chan or a Marcio Lassiter did in the National team but its obvious that Pogoy has been a serviceable player for the National team.
So in a sense, Pogoy has exceeded most people's expectation."A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IVComment
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