Philippine PBA Trades, Releases, Sign-ups, Rumours (vol. III)

[acklium]

Rodney White's playing for Barako while Donnel Harvey's replacing Omar Samhan in TNT

donnel harvey averages around 20+ points and had some break out game with 30+ while playing in CBA

[Jordan Bruiseter]

Roger Yap has been released by BMEG to SMB in the ABL. Jonas Villanueva is set to return from injury, where he will share PG chores with rookie (and fellow FEU Alumni) Mark Barroca.

[nardy]

Anticipating Yap's return to PBA SPORTING CHANCE By Joaquin Henson The Philippine Star Updated March 08, 2012 12:00 AM PBA commissioner Chito Salud said yesterday he has given teams up to Monday to submit interest in signing up former B-Meg guard Roger Yap, now with San Miguel Beer in the ABL, for the purpose of affixing an order of selection if and when he returns to the PBA. Yap, 34, was recently released by B-Meg after averaging 4.0 points, 3.0 rebounds, 1.5 assists and 13.8 minutes in four games this conference. In the Philippine Cup, he averaged 4.8 points, 3.2 rebounds, 2.8 assists and 21.1 minutes in 16 games. Last season, the 10-year pro averaged 7.0 points, 4.0 rebounds, 4.0 assists and 28.4 minutes. The decline in his playing time prompted Yap to request for a release. With Jonas Villanueva’s reactivation, Yap explored options outside of B-Meg and decided to join San Miguel in the ABL. While Yap is technically an unrestricted free agent, he is not totally permitted to choose a team to play for in case of a return to the PBA. Salud said there is a five-day grace period, expiring on Monday, within which teams must signify intent to sign up Yap. If a B-Meg sister team, Petron or Barangay Ginebra, signifies intent and a non-B-Meg sister team also expresses intent, Salud said the non-B-Meg sister team has the right to match. If no team signifies interest up to Monday, Yap is free to play for any team of his choice. “It’s not a right of first refusal by a non-B-Meg sister team,” qualified Salud. “It’s actually a right to match.” PBA special assistant to the commissioner and media bureau chief Willie Marcial explained that for instance, if Petron or Ginebra or even B-Meg makes an offer of P150,000 a month and a non-B-Meg sister team makes an offer of P100,000 a month, the PBA will allow the non-B-Meg sister team to match the higher offer and if it does, Yap then goes to that team. Of course, if a non-B-Meg sister team makes a higher offer than a B-Meg sister team, then Yap automatically goes to the non-B-Meg sister team. If the offer is the same from two or more non-B-Meg sister teams, then Yap may choose which team to play for. If the offer is the same from a non-B-Meg sister team and a B-Meg sister team, the non-B-Meg sister team gains the right to sign Yap. The critical point is a non-B-Meg sister team has the right to match any offer from a B-Meg sister team. There is talk that Meralco coach Ryan Gregorio is interested to recruit Yap who played for him when they were together at Purefoods. At presstime, no team had signified intent to the PBA. Yap’s most productive PBA season was with Purefoods/B-Meg in 2009-10 when he averaged 10 points, 4.6 rebounds, 2.0 assists and 27.4 minutes in 64 outings. Marcial said Yap’s release by B-Meg is like a player dropped out of the 16-man lineup. Yap’s contract was bought out by San Miguel Beer in the ABL. “Roger is free to play in any league,” said Marcial. “If and when he decides to go back to the PBA, we have a process to follow. If no team signifies interest up to Monday, then he is free to join any team of his choice without restriction. But if a B-Meg sister team and a non-B-Meg sister team signify intent, the rule is the non-B-Meg sister team has the right to match and sign up Roger outright.” Regarding the quality of imports in the Commissioner’s Cup, Salud said he couldn’t ask for a more impressive crop. There are two NBA first round picks in active rosters – Barako Bull’s Rodney White and Talk ‘N’ Text’s Donnell Harvey. Barako’s DerMarr Johnson, who’s in the injured list and still in town, was also picked in the first round. Imports with NBA credentials are Petron’s Nick Fazekas, Meralco’s Earl Barron, Ginebra’s Jackson Vroman, Powerade’s Dwayne Jones, White and Harvey – that’s six of 10 in current lineups. Since the PBA opened shop in 1975, 43 NBA first rounders have come to play as imports. In 1994, the league welcomed six NBA first round picks – Mitchell Wiggins, Jerome Lane, Leon Wood (now an NBA referee), Bernard Thompson, Byron Irvin and Billy Thompson.

[nardy]

does anyone remember what was the rule before when a player PBA transferred to the MBA and returned, same when a PBA Player went down to the PBL or Liga Pilipinas and back to the PBA. I do not remember Leo Avenido, Mark Andaya, Alex Crisano, Warren Ybanez, Al Vergara or Axel Doruelo given this attention by the Commisioner's office when they returned to the PBA after their stint in the ABL.

I have high respect for Roger Yap but am puzzled with the special interest that Commissioner Chito Salud with his situation and the commissioner seems to be implementing a new rule that looks like a deviation from the usual practice the PBA has on unrestricted free agents.

and since Roger Yap got his release from B-Meg isn't he free to choose where to go. But is it because he gone to an ABL team which is part of the San Miguel group which B-Meg also belongs, would Roger be permitted to choose a team to play for in case of a return to the PBA if assuming he signed-up instead with the Air Asia Philippine Patriots or with the other ABL teams.

[RedMetal]

does anyone remember what was the rule before when a player PBA transferred to the MBA and returned, same when a PBA Player went down to the PBL or Liga Pilipinas and back to the PBA. I do not remember Leo Avenido, Mark Andaya, Alex Crisano, Warren Ybanez, Al Vergara or Axel Doruelo given this attention by the Commisioner's office when they returned to the PBA after their stint in the ABL.

I have high respect for Roger Yap but am puzzled with the special interest that Commissioner Chito Salud with his situation and the commissioner seems to be implementing a new rule that looks like a deviation from the usual practice the PBA has on unrestricted free agents.

and since Roger Yap got his release from B-Meg isn't he free to choose where to go. But is it because he gone to an ABL team which is part of the San Miguel group which B-Meg also belongs, would Roger be permitted to choose a team to play for in case of a return to the PBA if assuming he signed-up instead with the Air Asia Philippine Patriots or with the other ABL teams.

Because Roger Yap might go to Petron Blaze Boosters. That is why!

[Jay P. Mercado]

does anyone remember what was the rule before when a player PBA transferred to the MBA and returned, same when a PBA Player went down to the PBL or Liga Pilipinas and back to the PBA. I do not remember Leo Avenido, Mark Andaya, Alex Crisano, Warren Ybanez, Al Vergara or Axel Doruelo given this attention by the Commisioner's office when they returned to the PBA after their stint in the ABL.

I have high respect for Roger Yap but am puzzled with the special interest that Commissioner Chito Salud with his situation and the commissioner seems to be implementing a new rule that looks like a deviation from the usual practice the PBA has on unrestricted free agents.

and since Roger Yap got his release from B-Meg isn't he free to choose where to go. But is it because he gone to an ABL team which is part of the San Miguel group which B-Meg also belongs, would Roger be permitted to choose a team to play for in case of a return to the PBA if assuming he signed-up instead with the Air Asia Philippine Patriots or with the other ABL teams.

There was no rule for such. When a player left the PBA to join the MBA, he was considered an unrestricted free agent and was allowed to join any PBA team when returned to the league. Players like Bong Ravena, Vince Hizon, Ato Agustin, among others were free to join any PBA team which was why Ravena saw himself joining TNT, and Hizon and Agustin locking up with Red Bull.

I believe Chito Salud's concern is valid. Unlike before, no PBA team had a so-called farm team in the La Liga, NBC or MBA. Today, we have the SMC conglomerate having a team with the Asian Basketball League, and this may be a way for the Beermen to circumvent the rules and avoid trades among sister teams that would involve a third party. In Roger Yap's case, he would be joining the Beermen in the ABL, and if the rules were retained, can easily return to the PBA after the ABL season (or even earlier if he so desires) for another team. While on paper this may not seem to be a problem, it would open a floodgate of opportunities for teams with PBA and ABL teams to use the latter as a way to avoid the complicated 3-way trade.

Similarly, a rule was established a few seasons back that for a player belonging to those that have multiple squads in the PBA who becomes an unrestricted free agent, the other teams would get first crack at him. Only when no team has expressed its desire to secure the services of a player will allow the said player to go to a sister team.

These rules have become complicated over the years brought about by the propensity of moving one player to another among sister teams. In the 90's, even if SMB and Ginebra were sister teams, no problem existed because these two franchises didn't treat each other as sister teams. They didn't transact with each other, they didn't exchange players, managers or coaches among themselves, and Ginebra was independent of the mother team. Credit of course would be given to Robert Jaworski, Sr. who ran the team like his own. Things changed of course in 1999 when Danding Cojuangco decided to put Allan Caidic as part of the coaching staff of Ginebra without consulting Jaworski. I won't be surprised really if the author of such a move was Ron Jacobs, who by then, was already running the company's basketball program. More than Caidic, I felt Jaworski was slighted because he saw the creeping figure of Jacobs entering the scene. It was also good timing as the Big J was just elected Senator of the Republic in 1998.

[nardy]

http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/video/sports/03/07/12/mvp-open-capping-team-ownership-pba

MVP open to capping team ownership in PBA

Posted at 03/07/2012 6:13 PM

http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/video/sports/03/07/12/mvp-open-capping-team-ownership-pba#ooid=YyMDJwMzqsFYah-ysKRbJ5CA9grut0uv

MANILA, Philippines – Businessman and sports patron Manny V. Pangilinan (MVP) is amenable to capping the number of teams that an individual or group can own in the Philippine Basketball Association (PBA).


Pangilinan owns the Talk 'N Text Tropang Texters and the Meralco Bolts , while San Miguel Corp. owns Petron Blaze, B-Meg and Barangay Ginebra.


Pangilinan’s comments came amid concerns on the integrity and parity in the 10-team league. Top Story, ANC, March 7, 2012.

[Coke_Hero]

as per Snow Badua's tweet

A player will be traded in maybe 6 months. Reason: team owner wants him out for allegedly faking a medical test. KABOOM

followed with:

matagal na yan. Ngaun ko lang nilabas. Bwahahaha kala niya ha. Bote nga. Hahaha

Thinking it's Hatfield (H-Bomb + "bote") since Intal has been traded before. Faked med test? For what?

[nardy]

as per Snow Badua's tweet


followed with:


Thinking it's Hatfield (H-Bomb + "bote") since Intal has been traded before. Faked med test? For what?

there are really some players who after securing a fat contract would rather not exert effort in playing thus faking injuries so that he'll continue being paid even if he's not playing. Its been happening for years.

[SG 3000]

there are really some players who after securing a fat contract would rather not exert effort in playing thus faking injuries so that he'll continue being paid even if he's not playing. Its been happening for years.

but i don't remember hatfield taking a break because of injury? its either he takes a leave or "retires" to go back to the states.

[Coke_Hero]

other guesses on who might the player be? "Bote" teams would be Ginebra and probably Alaska, Powerade and Barako. As per "kaboom" players, Hatfield's the closest (a Gary David extension rules this out).

[kgi]

its not HBOMB~!
i guarantee you!

kaboom!

[Jordan Bruiseter]

its not HBOMB~!
i guarantee you!

kaboom!

Kaboom...Ritualo??? Naaaaahhh...

[lovejones]

"A player will be traded in maybe 6 months. Reason: team owner wants him out for allegedly faking a medical test. KABOOM"

Hmmm. Interesting. There are several ways you can look at "faking a medical test."

1. The player purposely falsified a mandatory medical test so that he can collect money while doing nothing. Probably done in protest against management or the coaching staff.

2. The player intentionally falsified a medical test so that he can be traded. As far as I know, a player is mandated to undergo such a test in order for a trade to be consummated. An example would be Homer Se who in the past was suppose to be traded to Purefoods but the deal never materialized because he failed the said test.

3. The player intentionally faked the result of a medical test so that he can play and get a contract extension. After getting the said extension, he can now get another exam that will confirm his injury (second opinion "kuno"). With his future secured, he can now heal and collect money.

4. The faked "medical test" is in fact a drug test. The player faked it so he won't get sacked.

Interesting indeed.

[toikins]

red bull's danny S! the dynamite.

he's been out for his entire career na ata. lol