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  • My only fear here is that Badua will become the attack dog of parties seeking to destroy the PBA.

    People who follow both Gilas and Azkals know who I'm talking about. Some time in 2010, a certain tabloid journalist was not able to get an interview with someone connected to a national team. He ended up writing trumped-up stories about sex scandals about players in that team. Now, he's also branched out to attacking Gilas, Ateneo, the PVF, the V-League, etc., while also attacking "fellow" journalists. His Twitter timeline is full of reposts and "pakibasa and pakipasa" sh!te directed to fringe media personalities and fan clubs.

    Say what you will about Snow, but unlike the guy manning the hotdog stand, he is more or less a known online personality with a wide reach. Add the PBA ban, and you have a recipe for a PR disaster.
    Keep running, big boy.

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    • Originally posted by Aerial Voyager View Post
      And if badua didn't report these tirades, who do you expect to expose these shenanigans? those tweets wasn't only about the immoral sex scandal of chua, it was also about why top tier national players weren't release to the national pool, an important concern that needs to be addressed one way or another.
      actually those tweets, it was about chua's scandal as far as i've read his timeline. its just that the national pool issue was just an supplemental exposé.

      if his intentions was really to expose chua stopping SMC players from participating in gilas pool then he could've just stuck it out with that topic without having to discuss about someones personal business. if indeed he is a sports journalist he could've just focused on the sports aspect and not on the personal life of the personalities. but i think badua is more showbiz than sports.

      i do agree that the ban should've been a ban on SMC Team affairs, but the PBA is an organization. as much competition there is, they're a band of brothers i suppose.
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      • Originally posted by kerouac82 View Post
        The way I see it, Snow was not banned because of his Abby Poblador reportage, but for his Twitter tirade against Chua. It was conduct unbecoming of someone who styles himself a journalist, and an editor at that. He should've been more circumspect.
        That's the crux that everybody seems to be missing. But it's not like we could totally blame them. Narvasa handled it badly enough to make it much easier for most people to pounce on the former as the only trigger, and not look at the totality of the rant.

        Narvasa's memo to Badua is poorly written. It comes across as the handiwork of an emotional person, someone who appears heavily invested in the situation on a personal level. As the PBA commissioner, Narvasa should have written in a more dispassionate tone (note that this is possible even though he has some affinity to the "aggrieved" party). A few things that stick out in his letter are:

        (1) Too much "I" and "you". Third-person references could've helped Narvasa appear more detached.

        (2) Re: "And upon my investigation, said stories have no factual basis", Narvasa failed to itemize the steps of his alleged investigation. Showing transparency could've been one huge stride towards some semblance of credibility. In failing to do so, Narvasa's version of the truth unfortunately also projects a lack of factual basis.

        (3) An unnecessary (yet equally revealing) portion of the memo is the rhetorical question Narvasa poses, to wit: "If this office allows such a baseless attack on a high official of this association, what is to prevent you from doing the same thing to any of us?"

        Now if that statement doesn't show how watered down the powers of a PBA commissioner are (relative to that of, say, an SMC governor), then I don't know what will.


        But that ban was a bit heavy-handed. It's as if Narvasa was trying to correct a wrong with another wrong. Things like that greatly reduce the credibility of all parties involved.
        During the recent PBA draft, Narvasa expressed a preference to have the coaches announce their picks instead of the commissioner.

        His reason? "After all, the commissioner has no fans."

        At least Narvasa got that one right.

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        • narvasa hit snow where it will really hurt, his livelihood.

          alfrancis chua is really silent on this issue. here comes his friend to his "rescue."

          I agree the abby scandal was'nt the issue but the twitter rant about chua being the reason for smc players not playing for national team and chua's alleged backstabbing of his friends.

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          • If this office allows such a baseless attack on a high official of this association, what is to prevent you from doing the same thing to any of us?"

            This quote also struck me as I do not see a good reason for adding it, it makes it seem the commisioner is issuing the ban from a positiion of fear and weakness instead of projecting an image of fair authority. Paraphrased it is: "We are afraid you have the power to embarass us the same way you did Pareng Al."

            The best response would have been to act as if the Smc allegations were beneath contempt, does not warrant serious consideration, and laughably ridiculous. By bringing down the hammer on Snow they implicitly admit that he is a threat to them. As Thomas Jefferson said: " Ridicule is the only weapon against unintelligible propositions."
            Last edited by Epithetless; 09-21-2015, 09:18 AM.

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            • /sarcasm start

              Non-fans of SMC teams, let's talk trash to everyone who refuses to help the national cause so they will ban us from PBA activities for life.

              Blind, die-hard, loyal fans of SMC teams will be happy in their ignorance but they can cheer all they want for their teams.

              Enter a businessman dedicated to developing genuine PH basketball who starts a genuine nationwide home-and-away NBA-style professional league.

              SMC-run and politics-infested PBA dies a natural death, PH basketball grows to new heights.

              Just as planned.

              /sarcasm end
              Originally posted by gideon
              Not sure why all on here got salty when the Serbian coach said Gilas lacked any real quality. I mean isn't that glaringly obvious.

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              • Originally posted by Epithetless View Post
                If this office allows such a baseless attack on a high official of this association, what is to prevent you from doing the same thing to any of us?"

                This quote also struck me aa I do not see a good reason for adding it, it makes it seem the commisioner is issuing the ban from a positiion of fear and weakness instead of projecting an image of fair authority. Paraphrased it is: "We are afraid you have the power to embarass us the same way you did Pareng Al."

                The best response would have been to act as if the Smc allegations were beneath contempt, does not warrant serious consideration, and laughably ridiculous. By bringing down the hammer on Snow they implicitly admit that he is a threat to them. As Thomas Jefferaon said: " Ridicule is the only weapon against unintelligible propositions."
                If I asked for a show of hands on which Chito IBNers admire more (Salud or Narvasa), I suspect it might result in an armless response.

                But the difference between the two is quite stark, at least from a damage control standpoint. Narvasa should have taken a page from his CEO backer on how to conduct one's commissionership with poise, and could have used the Renaldo Balkman case as guidance.

                Salud handled the Balkman case very professionally. The offence was egregious, and the offender was a foreigner. It was easy to drop the hammer right away, and the public would've shrugged their shoulders and said "good riddance". However, Salud remained conscientious and proceeded with care.

                Salud declared that Balkman would receive due process. What we know is that the Puerto Rican was allowed to have an audience with the commissioner, before Salud issued his edict. The fairness of the lifetime ban may be open to debate, but I feel that the statement itself is well-written and carefully considered. Even Salud's oral delivery appeared dispassionate enough - he was careful not to make any personal attacks. Rather, he framed his verdict purely in the context of offending the association and the sensibilities of the host country.

                You know something is amiss with Narvasa's handling of the situation when his boss has to come out to defend the action against the reporter.

                In coming to Narvasa's defence, Salud appears to distance himself somewhat when he said:

                "I believe the Commissioner issued the subject order upon a determination that it falls within his office's prerogative, and after weighing various considerations.."

                That, to me, is a pointed statement that denies involvement with the PBA commissioner's action.

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                • what is this amature hour?? man narvasa is off to a bad start. he's making salud look like a pro!

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                  • Originally posted by insulares View Post
                    If I asked for a show of hands on which Chito IBNers admire more (Salud or Narvasa), I suspect it might result in an armless response.

                    But the difference between the two is quite stark, at least from a damage control standpoint. Narvasa should have taken a page from his CEO backer on how to conduct one's commissionership with poise, and could have used the Renaldo Balkman case as guidance.

                    Salud handled the Balkman case very professionally. The offence was egregious, and the offender was a foreigner. It was easy to drop the hammer right away, and the public would've shrugged their shoulders and said "good riddance". However, Salud remained conscientious and proceeded with care.

                    Salud declared that Balkman would receive due process. What we know is that the Puerto Rican was allowed to have an audience with the commissioner, before Salud issued his edict. The fairness of the lifetime ban may be open to debate, but I feel that the statement itself is well-written and carefully considered. Even Salud's oral delivery appeared dispassionate enough - he was careful not to make any personal attacks. Rather, he framed his verdict purely in the context of offending the association and the sensibilities of the host country.

                    You know something is amiss with Narvasa's handling of the situation when his boss has to come out to defend the action against the reporter.

                    In coming to Narvasa's defence, Salud appears to distance himself somewhat when he said:

                    "I believe the Commissioner issued the subject order upon a determination that it falls within his office's prerogative, and after weighing various considerations.."

                    That, to me, is a pointed statement that denies involvement with the PBA commissioner's action.
                    Excellent examples, as always. Salud had several faults, but handling crisis situations sans emotions was one of his greatest strengths.

                    It's quite unusual for Narvasa to act haphazardly in this case. He wasn't just a lawyer, he was a bank executive and one of the major competencies for that position is to remain dispassionate, however the situation may be.

                    He was a player and a coach as well. Well, not exactly a PBA player but he was an integral part of the Blue Eagles team of 1975 and 1976 that won back to back NCAA championships. While he may have understudied under the mercurial Coach Chot Reyes at Purefoods, he wasn't exactly a fiery head coach with Shell.

                    Perhaps, it's his personal association with Chua that led to this. Or in a more sublime perspective, he may have taken after his father, the former Chief Justice, and his namesake, Andres, Sr., who was known for his uncontrollable temper, particularly during his CJ stint. Quite surprising, considering how he handled himself remarkably during the Ninoy Aquino trial...

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                    • Originally posted by Jay P. Mercado View Post
                      Excellent examples, as always. Salud had several faults, but handling crisis situations sans emotions was one of his greatest strengths.

                      It's quite unusual for Narvasa to act haphazardly in this case. He wasn't just a lawyer, he was a bank executive and one of the major competencies for that position is to remain dispassionate, however the situation may be.

                      He was a player and a coach as well. Well, not exactly a PBA player but he was an integral part of the Blue Eagles team of 1975 and 1976 that won back to back NCAA championships. While he may have understudied under the mercurial Coach Chot Reyes at Purefoods, he wasn't exactly a fiery head coach with Shell.

                      Perhaps, it's his personal association with Chua that led to this. Or in a more sublime perspective, he may have taken after his father, the former Chief Justice, and his namesake, Andres, Sr., who was known for his uncontrollable temper, particularly during his CJ stint. Quite surprising, considering how he handled himself remarkably during the Ninoy Aquino trial...
                      Is there any basketball forum in the world as educational as IBN PBA.

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                      • if my senses are correct this anonymous writer is snow badua.
                        snow is using a pseudonym to do his job. LOL



                        I am used to reading snow's casual interview with yeng guiao and with the way this article is written i can swear this is snow LOL
                        I am not a six footer, so I play heavy metal instead...

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                        • Narvasa admitted that he don't follow the PBA yan palang e makita mo na agad he's not qualified to be a commisioner of the league. How can he decide on the trades if he doesnt know the players ngayon plang tadtad na lopsided trades... I wonder how he get the job, palakasan? Vince hizon, charlie cuna and other are all capable except him. Yan kabago bago puro kapalpakan agad. PBA Down fall is near too much politics....

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                          • ^^ the barako bull and ginebra trade comes into mind. barako ends up with what, 7 pointguards, and loses their first round pick last year, how is that supposed to benefit barako? haha.

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                            • Originally posted by beansent View Post
                              if my senses are correct this anonymous writer is snow badua.
                              snow is using a pseudonym to do his job. LOL



                              I am used to reading snow's casual interview with yeng guiao and with the way this article is written i can swear this is snow LOL


                              So its GMA rivalry to Ang

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                              • I'm confused. I thought Snow was clearing RSA's name and putting all the blame about the Gilaserye etc on Alfrancis. From what I remember, Snow tweeted to Alfrancis something like, "Ang bait-bait ni RSA, pero nasisira ang pangalan dahil sa kagagawan mo." Shouldn't be RSA be thankful to Snow?

                                We hate Snow as a reporter. But if he'll go against the evil empire, then go go go poging Snow!

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