Philippine PBA Trades, Releases, Sign-ups, Rumours (vol. III)

[Big Ticket]

+1. Toroman's style is just too militaristic for the superstars of Petron, and it could turn out for the better if Toroman were to be given the ABL team all to himself so he can run the show there.

So san miguel corp is willing to let go of ray parks jr?

[sharky]

well, i seriously think he is overrated...and the things i think a coach has to value the most - team chemistry, locker room cohesion, player/coach relationship, in-game adjustments - are the things he lacks. yes he is a great basketball mind but that's it...remember coaching has to be more than the x's and o's. and the most important thing is that the players have to believe in their coach...or at least respect him...i doubt the petron players do.

so you have a close relationship with Petron Players and you talk with them? and you visit their locker room and team practices? do you also join their huddles? wow you have a nice gig how i envy you.

[neo]

so you have a close relationship with Petron Players and you talk with them? and you visit their locker room and team practices? do you also join their huddles? wow you have a nice gig how i envy you.

his post was well within the parameters of an observer/fan. he did not say anything that require being a pal of petron's players or being part of the team for it to be acceptable. ur sarcasm is misplaced.

[killmebusy]

so you have a close relationship with Petron Players and you talk with them? and you visit their locker room and team practices? do you also join their huddles? wow you have a nice gig how i envy you.

i don't think i said anything representing what the petron players think of him, everything i said are just my opinions...or i'm actually olsen racela in disguise...

[zuma169]

so here it is.. the confirmation..

http://www.spin.ph/sports/basketball...g-players-grow

Rajko exit ends unique Petron setup as dissent among players grows
By Richard Dy
October 25, 2012, 02:21 pm

PETRON Blaze head coach Olsen Racela has confirmed that former national coach Rajko Toroman is no longer part of the team, saying it was "management's decision" to relieve the Serb from his role as consultant.

"As a coach, I don't really have control over what management will do or say. They've been there for a long time, so whatever they do, I'm sure they will do what's for the best interest of the team," Racela told Spin.ph shortly after the team's practice at the Acropolis gym in Quezon City.

The longtime point guard-turned-coach said he called Toroman upon learning from management that the former Smart Gilas coach was no longer part of the team, putting a quick end to an experiment that had seen the two combining on the bench in a student-mentor setup.

San Miguel Corp. is not expected to make any formal announcement on the change since Toroman still has a live contract with the company and may be moved into another role in another team under the SMC umbrella. One such option is the San Miguel team in the Asean Basketball League.

"I called him (Toroman) pero I don't really know what his plans are. Management offered him a coaching role at ABL but I don't know what is in his mind," added Racela, who replaced Ato Agustin as Petron coach beginning this season.

Racela said he won't be making any major change as far as the team's system is concerned, considering that they only have two days to prepare for Globalport, which Petron faces Friday at the Smart Araneta Coliseum.

Chris Lutz, one of Petron's top gunners, said he was surprised to learn on Wednesday that Toroman has been removed from any direct involvement with the team.

Lutz said he was clueless on why the 57-year-old Serbian national was removed but expressed support for Racela, saying the Boosters will thrive under their rookie coach.

"A lot has been said about coach Olsen, on how he lacks the experience to coach. But he's a great coach. I believe we will do better under him. He reads the defense well, even as a player when he was still playing the point for this team," explained Lutz, who was one of Toroman's designated shooters when they were still together at Smart Gilas.

Veteran playmaker Dennis Miranda, on the other hand, had mixed feelings upon learning what happened to Toroman.

"Siyempre, nagulat din ako, dahil sanay kami nandito siya sa practice. Pero, malaki tiwala namin magiging maganda ang itatakbo ng team kay coach Olsen," Miranda said.

No reason has been given for Toroman's sudden exit, but statement from players give hints on growing dissent within the team over the Serb's ways.

"Mahirap i-approach si coach Rajko. Siguro iba lang talaga ang kultura niya. Di gaya ng mga Pinoy na coaches. Mabilis kasi siya magalit. Pero kay Olsen, may kumpiyansa kami sa kanya. Mas free-flowing ngayon ang offense, Pero siyempre, sinasabi niya nga na magsisimula lahat sa depensa," said Miranda, the 2005 No. 3 rookie pick overall.

During the Boosters' first five games this season, Toroman acted more like the head coach than a consultant on the bench, presiding over huddles during timeouts and giving instructions to players during the game.

There was even a game when the former Iran national coach snatched the diagram board from Racela and went on to map out a play during a timeout.

I guess he is not fit for the PROS.. and the PBA in general.. any team in the PBA will have the same problem i guess even if he is THE HEAD COACH.. he didn't do anything wrong.. he is who he is.. it is just unfortunate he cannot jive..

but he still has a contract with SMC unfortunately.. i was hoping they release him and go to the Ateneo Blue Eagles (my alma mater).. i was really thinking that as a possibility.. the thing with coach rajko is if you cannot follow him he will get mad.. in the PBA as professionals they are given leeway to free wheel.. in Ateneo everyone will follow him just like smart gilas.. I truly believe he doesn't get mad at mistakes.. but he GETS REALLY MAD if you do not follow him and in turn makes mistakes..

different cultures talaga as sir NARDY has said.. matigas ulo ni LOLO..

[multihephep]

so here it is.. the confirmation..

http://www.spin.ph/sports/basketball...g-players-grow



I guess he is not fit for the PROS.. and the PBA in general.. any team in the PBA will have the same problem i guess even if he is THE HEAD COACH.. he didn't do anything wrong.. he is who he is.. it is just unfortunate he cannot jive..

but he still has a contract with SMC unfortunately.. i was hoping they release him and go to the Ateneo Blue Eagles (my alma mater).. i was really thinking that as a possibility.. the thing with coach rajko is if you cannot follow him he will get mad.. in the PBA as professionals they are given leeway to free wheel.. in Ateneo everyone will follow him just like smart gilas.. I truly believe he doesn't get mad at mistakes.. but he GETS REALLY MAD if you do not follow him and in turn makes mistakes..

different cultures talaga as sir NARDY has said.. matigas ulo ni LOLO..

i miss sir nardy still waiting 4 his comebck

[durden_tyler]

i miss sir nardy still waiting 4 his comebck

He's back. You just did not notice it

[el scorcho]

So the dissent in Petron is not just Arwind vs JWash.

There's also ex-Gilas boys vs Racela boys.

2 contrasting styles indeed. I guess a real disciplinarian coach won't fly for pros with egos.

[durden_tyler]

So the dissent in Petron is not just Arwind vs JWash.

There's also ex-Gilas boys vs Racela boys.

2 contrasting styles indeed. I guess a real disciplinarian coach won't fly for pros with egos.

Link please on the ex-Gilas boys vs. Racela boys?

[killmebusy]

So the dissent in Petron is not just Arwind vs JWash.

There's also ex-Gilas boys vs Racela boys.

2 contrasting styles indeed. I guess a real disciplinarian coach won't fly for pros with egos.

i believe tim cone and yeng guiao are disciplinarians too but they have been successful. egos will always be present especially in basketball players, it's how a coach handles those egos that make or break his stint with a team.

[durden_tyler]

i believe tim cone and yeng guiao are disciplinarians too but they have been successful. egos will always be present especially in basketball players, it's how a coach handles those egos that make or break his stint with a team.

This is too easy actually. It's all about culture more than anything else. And you simply can't change that overnight.

[el scorcho]

Link please on the ex-Gilas boys vs. Racela boys?

No link, really just reading between the lines on the report of Toroman's ouster..
Not really 'Racela' boys, but there would be some loyalties exchanged if there are 2 leaders.

[el scorcho]

i believe tim cone and yeng guiao are disciplinarians too but they have been successful. egos will always be present especially in basketball players, it's how a coach handles those egos that make or break his stint with a team.

Coach Kalbo let go of some inflated egos..and Tim Cone just knows how to push their buttons, I guess, being with Alaska and all.
Either that, or Petron has a full tank of head cases!

[Cryotek]

snow badua @snowbadua
RAJKO TOROMAN: I still can't comment on the matter. I have no communication yet from the office. No one has informed me about it yet.

snow badua @snowbadua
SNOW to RAJKO TOROMAN: But you weren;t at PETRON practice the past 2 days? RT: I am sick. (sniff) My doctor told me to rest
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He's not informed by the development, I'd thought he's the SMC consultant!

[ricodgame]

He's back. You just did not notice it

basketballer? lol