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  • Originally posted by Jay P. Mercado View Post
    Buenafe is one heck of an offensive player - only if he makes it simple. He has a knack of making simple shots extremely difficult that can seriously knock the senses out of his coaches. And since Guiao is a no-nonsense coach, you can only imagine the kind of berating Buenafe receives from Guiao everytime.

    But one hell of a move by ROS. They now have two first round picks in 2013 and another pair of first round picks for 2014. Not bad for a "small" franchise that runs a team under a tight budget. They should teach "Running a Franchise 101" to all other teams just to prove you don't need to be selfish to win.

    Likewise, they give Chris Tiu the playing time that he deserves. The rotation would allow Tiu to re-enact Buenafe's role, sharing time with Jeff Chan. The substitution patterns of Guiao is as follows:

    #1 - Lee, Tang
    #2 - Arana, Ibanes
    #3 - Chan, Buenafe
    #4 - Norwood, Matias, Rodriguez
    #5 - Belga, Quinahan, Cruz

    ROS remains to be a short team without a dominant center in the middle but Guiao can live with that. As Buenafe goes, Tiu comes in to play #2 as Norwood and Tang takes care of the PG duties. Tiu can also take over court generalship role if needed to be while waiting for Lee to return. Tiu's outside shooting will also be an added boost for this team - he may not have the same explosive shooting of Buenafe but he is definitely more consistent and the average cerebralness of this team increased by several notches with Tiu's inclusion and Buenafe's departure.

    if THIS IS FACEBOOK I WOULD HAVE LIKED AND SHARED YOUR THOUGHTS ALREADY

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    • So Tnt is dumping someone who is about to leave, and Romero is his bitch..

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      • Originally posted by jay p. Mercado View Post
        it may mean meralco isn't over...yet, when it comes to dealing players. The trio of mercado, cardona and buenafe is like a ticking bomb waiting to explode so at least one has to go. All three need the ball to be effective, although buenafe would probably be cardona's chief reliever at #2. Note that chris ross is the team's resident pg so meralco can't afford to put all 3 guys together with ross and jayr reyes.

        While meralco needs help at all fronts, getting buenafe may not have been the solution to this problem. Reports have it that mvp was miffed at ryan gregorio for not drafting chris tiu at 4th overall. Meralco management pleaded with ros' raymond yu to deal tiu to them but this request was denied. When noli eala found out about the bolts' interest, eala himself called up yu who also turned him down. Yu was very practical and simple with his answer - "you got your shot in drafting him, you didn't take him, now you're prying him away from us?" meralco had to settle for a consolation prize which ended up with buenafe. Imagine if meralco ends up in the cellar in 2013, the painters may actually get a shot at the bobby ray parks sweepstakes...
        obviously if you are updated with college basketball parks is still playing in his 2nd year as bulldog, so he may be available for the draft come 2015 or 2016 depends if he wants to use all of the 5 years maximum of a college player in the uaap..

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        • Originally posted by Cryotek View Post
          Aguilar Global Port-bound
          Kings prepare package for Casio


          THERE are rumors Japeth Aguilar is headed back to the United States to try his luck in the NBA D-League. Before that, however, the 6-foot-9 center-forward may yet make a stop at Global Port.

          Commissioner Chito Salud is set to receive documents within the week pertaining to the deal that will send Aguilar to the Batang Pier in exchange for center Rabeh Al-Hussaini, the No. 2 pick in the pro league draft last year.

          A very reliable source yesterday told Business Insight-Malaya that there’s no stopping Aguilar from going to the Batang Pier, which bought the Powerade franchise and is assembling a competitive squad according to owner Mikee Romero’s specifications.

          “Done deal na halos because both parties have already agreed in principle and the (trade) papers have almost been drawn up,” said the insider privy to the negotiations. “Konting kinks na lang ang inaayos.”

          Once Aguilar gets to Global Port, the issue of his US plans will be discussed.

          “He is sure to get the playing time and exposure he failed to get at Talk N Text, so he may be persuaded to permanently defer his plans,” said the source.

          The trade is just part of some frenzied moves being made by teams gearing up for the PBA’s 38th season kicking off on Sept. 30.

          Foremost among those actively offering deals is Ginebra, which sorely wants Jayvee Casio from the Batang Pier.

          A package being dangled by the Kings involves nine-year veteran Mike Cortez and forward Willy Wilson for Casio, although San Miguel Corp. management reportedly wants another offer drawn up.

          “Hangga’t maaari ibang players ang ibigay para makuha si Casio,” said the source.

          Initially, the insider added, the Kings have offered John Wilson and Wilson, but Romero reportedly turned it down.

          John Wilson has since been traded to Air21 along with KG Canaleta in exchange for Elmer Espiritu and the Express’ 2013 first round draft rights.

          Ginebra coach Siot Tanquingcen has openly stated he wants Casio, but declined to comment on trade rumors. “Sa itaas nangyayari ang mga ganyang negotiations,” he said.

          The source persisted, however, saying SMC executives and Ginebra coaching staff are reportedly set to meet today to draw up a package amenable to both Global Port and SMC management.

          Casio would be a welcome addition for the Kings. Known for being more of a facilitator, he would surely complement a Kings team that has an abundance of scorers, led by reigning MVP Mark Caguioa, and an awesome frontline.
          i have a question... if casio will go to ginebra..(cross fingered) so does it mean he will also be disallowed to play again for the national team?? like lutz and marcio?? WTF SMC is really a bitch.. they want to get all the best players then tey will not allow this players to join the national cause. I hope no one from the SMC team wins the championship this season so karma can get back at them.

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          • A good read

            MVP can’t turn his back on basketball

            By Ronnie Nathanielsz
            Businessman-sportsman Manny Pangilinan's passion for sports, particularly basketball, is legendary.
            The driving force behind PLDT-Smart and a number of other major corporations in the Philippines, Pangilinan, often referred to as MVP, has bankrolled the Smart Gilas national pool program as president of the Samahang Basketbol ng Pilipinas or SBP, as well as collegiate teams Ateneo in the Universities Athletics Association of the Philippines or UAAP and San Beda in the National Collegiate Athletic Association or NCAA.
            However, Pangilinan, who has infused his resources into eight sports where he feels we have a chance of winning internationally, made it clear he cannot turn his back on a sport like basketball which the people love and enjoy, despite the fact that there are those who believe we don't have the size to match up against such giants as China and the Middle East and European nations not even counting the United States.
            Pangilinan spoke to Yahoo! PH Sports following a mass and dinner for the Smart Gilas Pilipinas team that returned home on Monday after winning the 34th edition of the Jones Cup beating the mighty United States in a breathtaking final 76-75.
            It was 14 years ago that the all-pro PBA Centennial Team under coach Tim Cone won the trophy with a clean sweep (6-0) of all their games, beating hosts Chinese-Taipei in their last game, 82-72.
            San Miguel Corporation chairman Danding Cojuangco, who funded the San Miguel Beer squad under the brilliant American coach Ron Jacobs and reinforced by naturalized players Dennis Still, Jeff Moore and Chip Engelland, beat the US with five collegiate players who eventually played in the NBA, in an epic overtime thriller where homegrown heroes Samboy "Skywalker" Lim and Allan "Triggerman" Caidic played a crucial role in the victory in 1985.
            Jacobs had previously led a Cojuangco squad loaded with eight American players that included Still and Moore and Filipinos Willie Pearson, Ricardo Brown, JB Yango and Frankie Lim to victory in 1981, beating Sweden, who finished second, in the final game with France ending up third.
            The recent victory was the first time a Filipino coach, Chot Reyes, had steered a team to victory in the coveted Jones Cup, although Reyes himself agreed that Jacobs and Cone may have been Americans but were "Filipinos at heart."
            To Pangilinan, basketball is "the love of the Filipinos and it's extremely difficult to turn your back on what they truly love."


            He added: "What we should do is really try our best to support basketball and I think one day we will be Asian champions once again. That should be our dream, that should be our hope, that should be our faith."
            Jacobs himself had previously stated that on a good day the Philippines was perfectly capable of beating the dominant power in Asia, China. In fact, Jacobs coached the Philippine team with naturalized players Still and Moore to handily beat China in the ABC Championships in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia in January 1986.
            Pangilinan noted that we must have vision and imagination to move our country forward in sports but made it clear that "we must also focus because there are sports that we could be good at and there are probably sports that we cannot be good at. Resources are limited so we just need to focus, concentrate and devote the relevant resources to those sports."
            Turning to next month's Stankovic Cup in Japan, which is a higher level of competition than the Jones Cup with the national teams of several countries led by China, Iran and Lebanon in the tournament, Pangilinan said the support of all the PBA teams is needed.
            He noted that "the tournaments get tougher for the Stankovic Cup and the FIBA-Asia Championships next year which we have a good chance of hosting here in Manila for 16 national teams" after a visit by FIBA-Asia secretary general Hagoc who was impressed with the facilities at the Mall of Asia Arena along Roxas Boulevard.
            Philippine Basketball Association Commissioner Atty. Chito Salud believes that one of the reasons why the Philippines was able to beat the mighty United States in the Jones Cup in a gripping come-from-behind victory was because Filipino players are "no longer awed by the Americans. This game has become so global, our players have become so competitive, our fans know the limits of our talents and until what point our team can manage to win."
            Salud agreed that the Smart Gilas Pilipinas team made up of PBA players had no superstars but that they played for each other and played for the country. He said "that's how professional players do it, that's who those with experience do it and under (Head Coach) Chot Reyes, that's the way it's done."
            Agreeing that the nationals will face a much tougher assignment in next month's Stankovic Cup, Salud said: "I believe it's time to put country above self. We have a year to go before the crucial tournament (FIBA Asia Championships which is a qualifier for the FIBA World Championships). Let's give our team owners the opportunity and the chance to convince their players to play and I believe they will."
            SBP vice chairman Ricky Vargas admitted that he was not too sure about Smart Gilas's chances of winning the Jones Cup because "this team got together for only less than two weeks and I saw the Jones Cup as a way of bonding and a way of learning a new system. But working with professional basketball players they had the experience. I was pleasantly surprised."
            Vargas conceded the Stankovic Cup "is not going to be easy. It's difficult but now we have a formula. You don't have to be a superstar. All it takes is to be willing to play for the country with all your heart. It's going to be tough but at least we have hope by winning the Jones Cup we were able to prove that it can be done."


            Coach Chot Reyes whose masterful handling of the team with the assistance of former national coach Jong Uichico and Meralco coach Ryan Gregorio said the Jones Cup taught him a couple of things.
            He said No.1: "the stuff that we wanted to do offensively and defensively can work in this kind of a tournament."
            No.2: "It taught us that we can really compete with the best in Asia and I think going into the tournament our No.1 objective was learn a lot about the players and this tournament taught me a lot about the players we have."
            The success in the Jones Cup was, according to Reyes, is "a real testament to the ability to sacrifice and kudos to the leaders like Gabe Norwood and LA Tenorio who were showing everybody on the team what it means to give up minutes, to give up shots, to give up a lot of things just for the good of the team" even as he noted that there was not a single PBA Most Valuable Player in the squad.
            Discussing the reality of being awed by having to play against Americans, Reyes said that "at the start of the game we were a bit awed (when the US team went ahead 6-0) but as the game wore on we understood the players."
            Reyes told his team, "We play against them all the time in the PBA so let's go out and play our game." And they did in a gripping endgame that thrilled hundreds of flag-waving overseas workers in Taipei.

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            • ^ ^ ^ I think one thread is enough. But it si a good read.^^
              Philippines is in National Team transition mode.

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              • Originally posted by Huwebes View Post
                obviously if you are updated with college basketball parks is still playing in his 2nd year as bulldog, so he may be available for the draft come 2015 or 2016 depends if he wants to use all of the 5 years maximum of a college player in the uaap..
                That's your operative word there...and yes, my bad, I meant 2014, not 2013, for the Bobby Ray Parks sweepstakes.

                Nonetheless, Parks may opt to make use of his 5-year tenure in the UAAP until the time when Petron or any SMC team gets to draft him first, not unlike the Junmar Fajardo experience.

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                • Originally posted by mangangalakal View Post
                  WTF Yeng should choose between basketball and politics. Pampanga does not deserve a divided congressman and RoS does not deserve a divided coach hehehe.
                  If Yeng wins a seat in Congres, I'd think he would resign as head coach of ROS and turn things over to Caloy Garcia. What I did mention is Tiu's potential invaluable support campaigning for Yeng as Congressman of one of the districts of Pampanga.

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                  • IMO, winning a Congressional Seat will be a more comfortable thing for Yeng compared to a local position. He can divide his time, especially sessions are held in Metro Manila. Unlike a local official who needs more time to be with their constituents. I don't see Yeng giving up his coaching post even if he wins in Congress.

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                    • Originally posted by KevinDurant View Post
                      IMO, winning a Congressional Seat will be a more comfortable thing for Yeng compared to a local position. He can divide his time, especially sessions are held in Metro Manila. Unlike a local official who needs more time to be with their constituents. I don't see Yeng giving up his coaching post even if he wins in Congress.
                      Very difficult for him to do so, KD. Unlike today where he may be in an executive position, he's "only" a Vice Governor which allows him to still coach. As a congressman, that's a totally different story. Add to the fact that he'll be severely criticized if he ever continues to coach while holding a congressional seat.

                      I hope he stays though. We need colorful coaches like him to spice up the league...

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                      • There's still an option. He could choose not to get his salaries and bonuses as a Congressman. He will still get his pork barrel that he can use for his constituents. But Yeng is already getting older and money would be very important for his anger management sessions, heart bypasses and all other repair jobs due to the damages he got as a coach. I would also say that extremely few Pinoys in all honestly want to become a Congressman to become poorer than those living under the Quiapo bridge.


                        Originally posted by Jay P. Mercado View Post
                        Very difficult for him to do so, KD. Unlike today where he may be in an executive position, he's "only" a Vice Governor which allows him to still coach. As a congressman, that's a totally different story. Add to the fact that he'll be severely criticized if he ever continues to coach while holding a congressional seat.

                        I hope he stays though. We need colorful coaches like him to spice up the league...

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                        • Originally posted by Jay P. Mercado View Post
                          If Yeng wins a seat in Congres, I'd think he would resign as head coach of ROS and turn things over to Caloy Garcia. What I did mention is Tiu's potential invaluable support campaigning for Yeng as Congressman of one of the districts of Pampanga.
                          I was almost assuming with the flow of your post that you were seeing Chris Tiu giving support in the RoS coaching staff. Not a bad idea, eh?

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                          • Originally posted by eindhow View Post
                            ^ ^ ^ I think one thread is enough. But it si a good read.^^
                            you're right. for a minute i thought i had a deja vu, reading the same post all over again. but when i checked, i'm reading different threads.
                            Smart Gilas 2.0
                            ***I Believe***

                            _______________________________________________

                            Yeng Guiao: Neither the 3 year program or coach Rajko was the factor for the success of Smart-Gilas.

                            Tab Baldwin: He’s [Rajko] the big reason, maybe the biggest reason they got as far as they did.

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                            • it's possible hehehe look at pacquiao LOL

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                              • Originally posted by privateEYE View Post
                                you're right. for a minute i thought i had a deja vu, reading the same post all over again. but when i checked, i'm reading different threads.
                                sorry im just too excited about the news hehehehe

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