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  • Originally posted by OstinYorHim View Post
    Few days ago, I heard despite the strong start of Terrafirma, that Holt is eventually headed to Mags.

    Snow posted a rumor today that most people are assuming that it’s Holt to Ginebra or SMB. But afaik it’s actually Mags if they dont change plans. (Remember, Stanhardinger was bound for Mags before heading to SMB/Ginebra instead back then)
    Posted this last March 13. Hehehe.

    Edit: not yet done of course, so let's seee.
    OSTINNNNN YORR HIMMMMM

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    • Originally posted by JOI2dWorld View Post
      i think it's more viable if the weekend games will be played in the provinces as a test run, if more provincial games will be profitable and just let the wednesday games be in metro manila
      The PBA needs this, and I think they need to prepare for homecourt. The competitive advantage of the big teams (SMC teams, TNT) is too far ahead for the independent teams to make a dent in the fanbase. So, the will need homecourt, which I think is the only other way to get fan support for teams.

      Fans support winners or hometown teams.

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      • Originally posted by OstinYorHim View Post
        Snow just confirmed in his podcast what I've heard for months. Holt is eventually bound to Mags.
        Prepare for Holt at the 4 lineups

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        • I totally agree if they could conduct majority of the games outside the metro, Fri to Sun and only on the Wed.

          that's the reality now.

          no one will argue with that.

          as for that trade rumors thing that is circling around nowadays well they just keep on digging their own sinkhole

          it's bluer than blue for our beloved nope..hmmm..and now ill-fated league nowadays.

          many thanks to those grandpas.

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          • It doesn't look good for Jamie Malonzo. I'm still hoping its not a serious injury.
            "A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV

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            • Originally posted by mayfel View Post
              All the leagues have a super teams. It is not only in the Philippines but all over the world. But allowing FSA and NPs will increase the level of competition and it will give them a shot in the arm in competing in EASL and BCL. Ofcourse, the expansion teams should be independent and capable like Phoenix, Converge and ROS. The reason why the PBA doesnt want to expand is that, if you have 4 new independent teams plus 3 existing, it means that SMC block or MVP block cannot control the board. In this era of PBA, the one who control the board room controls the league.
              Originally posted by C2Hamm View Post
              building a super team using agreed guidelines and policies should not be a problem. LBJ's super team was great for a couple of season but was unsustainable. The Phoexnis Suns team now was suppose to be a superteam and we can see the problems caused by making this team. i have not bee watching PBA for years but reading fans reaction even vloggers episodes, it seems PBA super teams has sustained this for years. again, making a super team isnt the problem. but if the team is able to sustain this, then there is something wrong with how the league is ran if other teams are not able to catch up.

              but thats a diff topic. sticking with the thread, PBA is not obligated to tell the fans everything they are planning, but showing some of their goals and how what they are doing ties up to these goals. for example, for example, if they are more concerned with ticket sales rather than allowing 2 imports, thats fine. but, dont participate at all in EASL. having 2 imports for EASL but only using 1 for the PBA season doesnt make sense. if they want to show everyone we have the best local players, dont use NP in SEA games even if other countries do. its like allowing FSA in the league. sure, good for competition, but is that what the league wants? people call Justin Brownlee Justin Noypi. talga lng? PBA wont even recognize him as a FIlipino like how our constitution now recognizes him. proof? he is still considered import. im not sure what the best course of action is, but im quite happy that we forumers got ideas to help Gilas and even some of the leagues. but its like a brainstorming session, there are so many ideas, and feelings, that we need a bit of structure and parameters to come up with something realistic ro achievable.
              Originally posted by reamily View Post
              The easy way for super teams to be supported is for them to win easl even with one import they can win games
              In European football, superteams are there all the time. Man United in the 2000's, Real Madrid, Barcelona, Bayern Munich, Man City. Difference is, those teams also won in their continental club championships.

              Now, applying it here, what use is talent collecting for teams like SMB, Ginebra, and TNT if they can't win in continental championships like the EASL and BCL?

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              • Originally posted by IPC View Post




                In European football, superteams are there all the time. Man United in the 2000's, Real Madrid, Barcelona, Bayern Munich, Man City. Difference is, those teams also won in their continental club championships.

                Now, applying it here, what use is talent collecting for teams like SMB, Ginebra, and TNT if they can't win in continental championships like the EASL and BCL?
                PBA governors have yet to realize how much money they could earn if they take those tournaments seriously.

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                • Originally posted by IPC View Post
                  Speaking of, here's a tweet reflecting the state of our basketball: https://x.com/AcheronSZN/status/1780405610934382677​
                  Here's another: https://x.com/madeinmnl__/status/178...NT-OlySpQ&s=07

                  We should call on SBP to improve the development of homegrowns. Hope Dy can make good on her promise to improve our grassroots, and expand on that to get our most promising players abroad.
                  Originally posted by Metta View Post
                  Perhaps it's the other way around. If our grassroots improve and our young athletes become world-class, they will have more pro options. What needs to improve is also our pro leagues/national teams so our players choose to stay.
                  Originally posted by IPC View Post
                  We will need our pro leagues to become avenues of improvement for the international stage as well. That will require a massive change in mindset.

                  As for elite prospects, we'll have to tailor them to become good both in the international and local pro settings so that they can still be viable players here and with the NT.
                  Now, hopefully, the PBA becomes a friendly league for players who can play internationally.

                  1. Increase the level of competition. Allow permanent imports, especially our NP's, but I think it's best after expansion, which will saturate the talent, especially at 3/4/5.

                  2. Hope for more dominant wing players, or defensive wings that are 196cm and above. Oftana, Navarro, Arvin, Malonzo are our hope in that position in the PBA.

                  3. Increase the max. Players choose overseas leagues for money. Increasing spending power of the lesser teams would be a massive boost too.

                  4. Have a schedule favorable to the FIBA calendar and other tournaments. Susko, matagal na 'tong issue, and the PBA truly committed to international tournaments only in the 2022 SEA Games and between the 2022 FIBA Asia Cup and this year's OQT.

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                  • lol @ almazan IMG_9424.jpg

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                    • Originally posted by CoJ View Post
                      lol @ almazan IMG_9424.jpg
                      My dad and I heard the news this morning. Man, we were laughing hard. HAHAHAHAHAHA.

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                      • Originally posted by OstinYorHim View Post
                        Snow just confirmed in his podcast what I've heard for months. Holt is eventually bound to Mags.
                        So lopsided trades are looming to happen within a few days or weeks involving Arvin Tolentino & Stephen Holt. Just when their respective teams are doing well in the current Philippine Cup (well both teams are doing better now compared to the past conferences). And these 2 players are among the key components of their respective teams, especially Arvin Tolentino being the best player of Northport at present.

                        Kung kailan yung iba sa atin dito ay mejo muling nagkaka interest manood ng PBA as the former cellar dwellers are beginning to so well in this conference & it looks like the PBA today is more balance than in the previous seasons then these rumors of anticipated lopsided trades are circulating.

                        So what are the most likely trades we are expecting? Arvin Tolentino will be traded to SMB for Chris Ross? Stepphen Holt being traded to Magnoliia for Rafi Reaves?

                        PBA is a hopeless case.
                        "A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV

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                        • Originally posted by CoJ View Post
                          PBA governors have yet to realize how much money they could earn if they take those tournaments seriously.
                          Apart from the prize money, continental tournaments boost exposure among OFW's, and maybe even foreigners abroad if they're good enough.

                          If the teams earn big, the taxes paid won't hurt as much.

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                          • Originally posted by JAMSKIE View Post

                            So lopsided trades are looming to happen within a few days or weeks involving Arvin Tolentino & Stephen Holt. Just when their respective teams are doing well in the current Philippine Cup (well both teams are doing better now compared to the past conferences). And these 2 players are among the key components of their respective teams, especially Arvin Tolentino being the best player of Northport at present.

                            Kung kailan yung iba sa atin dito ay mejo muling nagkaka interest manood ng PBA as the former cellar dwellers are beginning to so well in this conference & it looks like the PBA today is more balance than in the previous seasons then these rumors of anticipated lopsided trades are circulating.

                            So what are the most likely trades we are expecting? Arvin Tolentino will be traded to SMB for Chris Ross? Stepphen Holt being traded to Magnoliia for Rafi Reaves?

                            PBA is a hopeless case.
                            Also known as harvest season. Same old same old.

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                            • Originally posted by IPC View Post

                              Apart from the prize money, continental tournaments boost exposure among OFW's, and maybe even foreigners abroad if they're good enough.

                              If the teams earn big, the taxes paid won't hurt as much.
                              For the life of me, I still cannot figure out how the PBA and its teams operate. They are neither competition-oriented, revenue-oriented nor popularity-oriented. Not even showmanship/entertainment-oriented. Very puzzling.

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                              • PBA cost is only a deduction line the FS of the controlling company. They are more like operating like CSR or a NGO.

                                They are not intended to operate as income generating entity.
                                ""failure is not the end but just the beginning of a victorious journey..just keep on dreaming and we will be back on the olympics''''

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