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  • Originally posted by Rodbi View Post

    I agree. There's a possibility that he's one of those Pinoy basketball personalities that disliked the overt and uncontrolled commercialization of the sport. Well, it's reasonable to assume that as he's a product of his time - a time when it's genuinely all about basketball and winning at it at the highest of levels. However, it was also a time when playing contracts weren't structured the way they are now. You can only imagine, what if The Big J and his contemporaries experienced today's basketball and the personal gains from it, now that the SMC empire in the PBA is at its absolute peak? The influence, the clout, the power they have over the sport in this country. Would he still have the same mentality?
    He can do that in independent teams but he will realize he can't win against super loaded teams in other teams...

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    • Originally posted by Rodbi View Post

      I agree. There's a possibility that he's one of those Pinoy basketball personalities that disliked the overt and uncontrolled commercialization of the sport. Well, it's reasonable to assume that as he's a product of his time - a time when it's genuinely all about basketball and winning at it at the highest of levels. However, it was also a time when playing contracts weren't structured the way they are now. You can only imagine, what if The Big J and his contemporaries experienced today's basketball and the personal gains from it, now that the SMC empire in the PBA is at its absolute peak? The influence, the clout, the power they have over the sport in this country. Would he still have the same mentality?
      I think SMC's money showed in how GSM was able to build arguably the best 5 in the pre-Filfor invasion era. I don't think it was just luck that they got Marlou, Locsin, Hizon and David. I actually blame Jaworski for that team under performing. He insisted on playing when at almost 50 he couldnt really play. He insisted on playing the worst nepo baby, Dodot. And when Asi, Alvarado and Menk came GSM missed their chance to win further with arguably their strongest pre-Filfor line-up.

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      • Originally posted by Rds View Post

        I think SMC's money showed in how GSM was able to build arguably the best 5 in the pre-Filfor invasion era. I don't think it was just luck that they got Marlou, Locsin, Hizon and David. I actually blame Jaworski for that team under performing. He insisted on playing when at almost 50 he couldnt really play. He insisted on playing the worst nepo baby, Dodot. And when Asi, Alvarado and Menk came GSM missed their chance to win further with arguably their strongest pre-Filfor line-up.
        But that time, most of their players were thru draft picks... They tank a season just to secure Marlou Aquino after that being the no.1 pick... I miss those years that the top picks are very valuable... Now, the drafting system is just non-sense due to stupid farming monopoly of both Terrafirma and Blackwater (i will include Northport as well)...

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        • Originally posted by CoJ View Post
          meanwhile SMB is the anti bgsm with redundant players (romeo, cj perez, jericho, ross) undersized bigs with limited skillset/ with lck of mobility (Vic Manuel et. al). If i were to revamp SMB ill only keep Tautua, and start stockpiling versatile wings.

          SMB right now is hot garbage and could only win against weak pba teams and be exposed by BGSM, Mags and TNT

          heck Meralco has a better roster built wtih Hodge, Maliksi and Newsome.
          Well, they're now winning games with this roster in this year's Commissioner's Cup thanks to the addition of Don Trollano and Bennie Boatwright. They don't have to rely on their defense when they have the firepower. Well, at least in the PBA.

          If they qualify for the EASL, they better hope their D holds up.

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          • Originally posted by IPC View Post

            Well, they're now winning games with this roster in this year's Commissioner's Cup thanks to the addition of Don Trollano and Bennie Boatwright. They don't have to rely on their defense when they have the firepower. Well, at least in the PBA.

            If they qualify for the EASL, they better hope their D holds up.
            Don Trollano is the role player extraordinaire of the league. He is not tall or athletic but does many things well both on offense and defense. It is not surprising Lassiter is playing better now there’s another two way SF in the team. Again on Trollano. To me he looks a bit like Thirdy. But he is the anti-Thirdy in some ways. Basically same height but drastically different athleticism. Don relies on his 3 pt shot to setup his offense. While Thirdy relies on his athleticism. Both are good defenders but Don relies mostly on smarts and good fundamentals.

            Yes. Unfortunately, despite SMBs redundant lineup they picked up two players that plug up their rotation. A two way good outside shooting SF and an outside shooting mobile big for their import.

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            • Originally posted by Giannis34GOD View Post
              Every coach will be very lucky if a talent like CJ Perez was on the bench... Other teams don't have luxury (except maybe Ginebra, Magnolia or TNT last season).. Perez will be an instant superstar in every team in the PBA... Teng is a go to scorer w/ Alaska, But in SMB, He just only 10-11 man in SMB rotation, Tautuaa will be a starting center in those independent PBA teams, That is how SMB is super loaded... Well, he forget to thank their farm teams Northport and Terrafirma to provide their needs... hehehehehehehhehe...
              Originally posted by Giannis34GOD View Post
              Magnolia go to guy are either barroca or Lee

              SMB has lot of go to guys (Perez, Romeo, Junmar)

              TNT has Oftana (last season was Mikey)

              NLEX has Bolick (wag Lang I trade)

              Terrafirma actually have in Stephen Holt (I always think his caliber is same as Mikey, Just Dyip using him uncomfortable)

              Meralco has Newsome (he did make some crucial shots, including against Ryukyu and Phoenix), although he developed it just now

              Northport has Tolentino (wag Lang I trade)

              Ginebra has lot of go to guys (Malonzo, Scottie, Ahamnisi)

              only Phoenix, ROS, Blackwater and Converge doesn’t have go to guy yet but ROS and Phoenix developing Mamuyac and Tio as their go to guys…
              Barroca and Lee aren't at that level anymore. Newsome, Scottie, Malonzo, and Mav aren't at that level. As for Holt, I don't know yet.

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              • Originally posted by Giannis34GOD View Post

                Chooks might be better franchise than Blackwater, Terrafirma and Northport if the were allowed... For sure they will compete and willing to spend.. but PBA big bosses doesn't want competition, They just want only SMC & MVP teams to run the show... BWB, Dyip and Pier have good roster to be honest... If Chooks, SGA are those teams who will handle the current line up of 3 farm teams, they might upset some big teams in the PBA....
                Sir Tukayo,

                with the recent Power N' Play interview on the new ED about the recent meeting(Jan. 5?) on all shareholders of the sports including issues on 3x3 on both camps will be resolve(?) ASAP.

                I hope it would be a good start to mend old issues/concern moving forward.

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                • Originally posted by IPC View Post


                  Barroca and Lee aren't at that level anymore. Newsome, Scottie, Malonzo, and Mav aren't at that level. As for Holt, I don't know yet.
                  Well, Barroca and Lee prove you wrong last game vs Phoenix… both take crucial shots in Game 2 of their series vs Phoenix… So they have still clutch genes… Newsome also proved it against Phoenix and Ryukyu… Holt is very exemptional talent.. he can be automatic ho to guy for Terrafirma but the coach used him wrong for no reason…

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                  • Originally posted by BJ_Reloaded View Post

                    Sir Tukayo,

                    with the recent Power N' Play interview on the new ED about the recent meeting(Jan. 5?) on all shareholders of the sports including issues on 3x3 on both camps will be resolve(?) ASAP.

                    I hope it would be a good start to mend old issues/concern moving forward.
                    we can be good in 3x3 but pettiness between PBA and CTG prevent that to happen. hope they collaborate each other..

                    as for womens side hope Dy will take a long look on womens league in RP since they’ll visit here in OZ to observe the grassroots might as well take a look on the wnbl..
                    Philippine Malditas to FIFA Womens World Cup 2023

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                    • Originally posted by Silent Killer View Post

                      we can be good in 3x3 but pettiness between PBA and CTG prevent that to happen. hope they collaborate each other..

                      as for womens side hope Dy will take a long look on womens league in RP since they'll visit here in OZ to observe the grassroots might as well take a look on the wnbl..
                      Sir SK,

                      I think they've already had because as per her statement in the Power N' Play interview, her and coach Norman just arrived from that trip down under and they've observed how things are going from the facilities and trainings as far as grassroots development are concern including the officiating wherein kids are also trained to handle the officiating as a referee as young as 17 yrs. old during the 12U tournament.

                      I think the next stop is Serbia if I'm not mistaken.

                      as for the WNBL, it wasn't mentioned, unfortunately. maybe coach Pat are the one being assigned(?) unto it.

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                      • Originally posted by BJ_Reloaded View Post

                        Sir SK,

                        I think they've already had because as per her statement in the Power N' Play interview, her and coach Norman just arrived from that trip down under and they've observed how things are going from the facilities and trainings as far as grassroots development are concern including the officiating wherein kids are also trained to handle the officiating as a referee as young as 17 yrs. old during the 12U tournament.

                        I think the next stop is Serbia if I'm not mistaken.

                        as for the WNBL, it wasn't mentioned, unfortunately. maybe coach Pat are the one being assigned(?) unto it.
                        That's nice.. hope they really implement that.. national youth championships for u18 and possibly u16.. that will be nice..
                        Philippine Malditas to FIFA Womens World Cup 2023

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                        • Originally posted by Giannis34GOD View Post
                          Well, Barroca and Lee prove you wrong last game vs Phoenix… both take crucial shots in Game 2 of their series vs Phoenix… So they have still clutch genes… Newsome also proved it against Phoenix and Ryukyu… Holt is very exemptional talent.. he can be automatic ho to guy for Terrafirma but the coach used him wrong for no reason…
                          That means they're clutch, not that they're go-to guys at this point.

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                          • Originally posted by IPC View Post

                            That means they're clutch, not that they're go-to guys at this point.
                            If you look at SMC teams' roster, They don't need that go to guy type of player since all of them are very loaded.. But i'm sure if needed, Barroca and Lee can take over as Go to guys even today... In crunch time situations, Magnolia coach always opted the possession either Barroca or Lee just like Game 2... In PBA setting, Barroca and Lee are tier 2 go to guys.. I think only one guy in the PBA we can say can do both as Go to guy and being clutch in end game.. It is Mikey Williams, the rest are lower tier levels... Mikey Williams is the only guy in the PBA today that we can put as Tier 1 level of Go to guy plus clutch player...

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                            • Originally posted by Silent Killer View Post

                              That's nice.. hope they really implement that.. national youth championships for u18 and possibly u16.. that will be nice..
                              Sir SK,

                              the thing about what the new ED said during that interview is about those kids are also trained to do some officiating aside from the usual drills.

                              Oo nga noh!! that stuck on my head right now..

                              I think we should also teach our lads on the officiating as well.

                              because that's also part of the basic foundation not only the drills and the Core stuff that we are always talking since the time of adam on different threads.​

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                              • Good decision by Big Game James so as to give young players a chance. I've always maintained that one too old player (38 yrs old & above) means depriving one spot to a young & developing player which doesn't bode well with the interest of player development.
                                "A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power, when you stand before God, you cannot say, 'But I was told by others to do thus,' or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice." - King Baldwin IV

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