Philippine PBA Trades, Releases, Sign-ups, Rumours (vol. III)

[C2Hamm]

I just can't with the PBA with its useless rule on no. 1 overall picks. They should just abolish the draft and re-allow direct hiring. Most of the recent no. 1 overall picks are direct hire material anyway given their age during the draft day.

the farm teams will all go up in arms if this happens. all those lopsided trades either have cash considerations or business considerations that arent on the news. if you put direct hires, noone will go to them and they cant trade the players for something more valuable (to them)

[zairex]

the farm teams will all go up in arms if this happens. all those lopsided trades either have cash considerations or business considerations that arent on the news. if you put direct hires, noone will go to them and they cant trade the players for something more valuable (to them)

You're right but they suppose to be here for basketball reasons not to make business out of other teams. Hope it will attract others who are capable to atleast toe to toe. Like college patrons got attracted to be main supports of teams as they see how MVP supported Ateneo and San Beda. Now with Sy of SM to NU, Al Chua to UST and Letran.

[Rodbi]

the farm teams will all go up in arms if this happens. all those lopsided trades either have cash considerations or business considerations that arent on the news. if you put direct hires, noone will go to them and they cant trade the players for something more valuable (to them)

Better for that to happen than for the current status quo to perpetuate for God-knows-how-long. Perhaps it would make the owners of those sucky teams to rethink their business strategies and pull-out for good, and maybe just maybe, invest in other sports that we're good at but badly need solid backing and funding. PBA or Pinoy basketball fans in general don't deserve absolutely bad, tanking teams that have no business competing at the PH's top-tier pro basketball league.

[hmbopbaduwap]

Incubation period has started for Christian David

https://www.spin.ph/basketball/pba/christian-david-signs-two-year-deal-with-blackwater-a795-20230925?utm_source=Facebook-Spin&utm_medium=Ownshare&utm_campaign=20230925-fbnp-basketball-christian-david-signs-two-year-deal-with-blackwater-a795-20230925-fbfirst&fbclid=IwAR0K5BYZSBM2BCBPKyyqtCKhjHeFwIzSHcDVbcVSlJzkzHxBu-eQuqoRAKY

[greenarcher]

Incubation period has started for Christian David

https://www.spin.ph/basketball/pba/c...HxBu-eQuqoRAKY

Future Tropang Giga

[Kaireem]

I just can't with the PBA with its useless rule on no. 1 overall picks. They should just abolish the draft and re-allow direct hiring. Most of the recent no. 1 overall picks are direct hire material anyway given their age during the draft day.

well legally without a union in place what the pba is doing is illegal, its just that the players don't have any power nor influence to have a say on how the league is run

[Sikatrix]

well legally without a union in place what the pba is doing is illegal, its just that the players don't have any power nor influence to have a say on how the league is run

Its on the players to form a union, not the PBA. I think the reason why they dont form one is enough players get extra perks that they dont want things to be above board.

[hmbopbaduwap]

https://www.spin.ph/basketball/pba/terrafirma-signs-no-12-pick-taylor-miller-to-two-year-deal-a795-20230926?ref=feed_1_section

[r1ck]

Its on the players to form a union, not the PBA. I think the reason why they dont form one is enough players get extra perks that they dont want things to be above board.

http://www.cnnphilippines.com/sports/2015/10/05/PBA-players-union-Mahindra-Nuyles.html

They actually had one but they did not maintain it.

[hmbopbaduwap]

https://www.spin.ph/basketball/pba/ralph-cu-signs-one-year-contract-with-barangay-ginebra-a795-20230927?ref=feed_1_section

[CoJ]

http://www.cnnphilippines.com/sports/2015/10/05/PBA-players-union-Mahindra-Nuyles.html

They actually had one but they did not maintain it.

Wasn't Franz Pumaren the last PBA Union president? boy that was almost 30 yrs ago pa!

[IPC]

This 2015 Gilas team coached by Tab shot 31 3pt attempts in this game. For the whole FIBA Asia 2015 tournament, Tab Baldwin was playing a modern 5 out system where every player can shoot the 3. We had the second highest 3pt attempts in that tournament, and the proof is in the pudding (Silver Medal with arguably second tier PBA Talent because of the lack of marquee SMC Players.)

He also adapted his style to take the strengths of the players. And here is how:
For all the faults of the Dribble Drive Offense, Tab Baldwin actually ran the DDO in around 50percent of their possessions in 2015, taking advantage of a prime Jason Castro and modern stretch dribbling big in Andray Blatche. However, he also played this in tandem with his swing offense as well so that there is variety in our offense and that we are more unpredictable. He also ran very good zone offense and we were a team that you cannot play a zone against. We played the percentages well and this is even with a ball dominant Andray Blatche

As you also guys have observed, it is a stark contrast against Tim Cone's Gilas now who seldom sets opportunities for threes, this current iteration of Gilas is now playing like a team from the 2000's-early 2010's.

I completely agree with you on the need to modernize our ways (and trust math damn it). Yeng expressed it though, to develop with the times, we need to enact changes to the whole system. Coaches, rules/officiating, grassroots, pro league, etc.

Cone is an example of why we need to get new/develop existing coaches. Cone's expertise and much of his success is because of the triangle offense, so of course that is the system he will use. Although that system is already outdated internationally, it still is effective in the pba because of...rules/officiating and player profile.

Rules/officiating in our ecosystem is favoring too much towards the "will" players instead of the "skill" players. It is an enabler for slower, less skilled and older players. Ping had a great career and is a great guy, but man at 41 and having already retired for a while, they still think he can play in the pba. The crazy thing is, I think he still can. That's either a plus for him or a minus for the league.

And we all have numerous opinions about our grassroots.

Wholistic change.

smh so timmy cone is the best coach ever in the pba .... yet when he took over the alaska team in 1989 he had zero coaching experience and yet somehow ended up being the most successful pba coach ever

while that is a testament to timmy cone's greatness it is at the same time an indictment of how rubbish philippine pro ball is

Maybe EASL drubbings might force changes in the league. Rules, officiating, whatever. Or a team that runs an international-style system can win in the PBA. Converge sana, but they need more talent. Schonny is first-option-level talent, but need more scoring options, and it depends on Arana's improvement. Hopefully, Ayo can be open to using a tall player at the wing (someone like a Will Navarro or Gabe Norwood). His go-to options there the past season were Teng and Racal. Murrell was eventually traded.

Shame nga that Ginebra backed out of the EASL. They already have a lineup fit for international club tournaments, they just have to test the system and their defense if it can hold.

[reamily]

The way ginebra limited Standhardinger and Malonzo's Gilas stint shows you that Al isnt just go full cards on their Comms cup title defense.. Ditto with tnt guys..

[CoJ]

looks like JMF is about to win his 7th MVP trophy

https://www.philstar.com/sports/2023/09/28/2299719/san-miguels-fajardo-leads-pba-mvp-race-anew

[reamily]

looks like JMF is about to win his 7th MVP trophy

https://www.philstar.com/sports/2023...-mvp-race-anew

but how he didnt even play half in govs cup and unplayeable in comms cup..the criteria was flawed in a sens ethat Junmar get his bulk on the all filipino cup, both he and Wang Zhelin were srutuinized by their local fans.. dominant in their local leagues...