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  • Originally posted by Rodbi View Post

    On live attendances, no less
    mighty sports often had home court crowd whenever they played in the middle east

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    • Originally posted by Dotch View Post

      Before luring Ronaldo et al, they first disrupted pro golf when the Saudis founded LIV golf. They offer $hitload of money to top golfing pros. and many of them jump ship from PGA to LIV.

      BTW, the Saudis are using their country's sovereign wealth fund estimated to be in the $700 Billions to lure these big name football and golfing pros. The Saudi Sovereign Wealth Fund is similar to the much maligned Maharlika Fund. But the Saudi fund is backed by their oil money, not by their citizens's tax, retirement and pension funds.
      yes , and they also sponsored and staged a lot of big boxing fights and F1 grand prix, the thing is saudi is not yet that interested in basketball as horseracing is another top sports in the kingdom, i don't know they will invest in basketball

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      • Originally posted by JOI2dWorld View Post

        yes , and they also sponsored and staged a lot of big boxing fights and F1 grand prix, the thing is saudi is not yet that interested in basketball as horseracing is another top sports in the kingdom, i don't know they will invest in basketball
        not a sport but WWE is making big money in Saudi since 2017. Saudi has hosted a number of annual WWE PLEs

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        • Originally posted by CoJ View Post

          not a sport but WWE is making big money in Saudi since 2017. Saudi has hosted a number of annual WWE PLEs
          that was the first non football sports/entertainment that they brought in the Kingdom, then european football supercups

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          • Originally posted by gilasfan View Post
            The Long Hair Effect
            Originally posted by JAMSKIE View Post
            If SMC group is in charge of the national team, PBA can easily bend & adjust. Remember the PBA-select national team we had in the 2007 FIBA Asia Championship? That was an SMC-sponsored national team.& the PBA made drastic adjustment so that the SMC-RP team can get at least 5 months of training.
            ​Hope this effect translates to improving the league. No All-Filipino, schedule to accommodate FIBA and EASL. Hiring coaches to replicate international play too.

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            • So Homer Sayson just had leaked a trade rumor via his Spin.ph article.

              BW gets Justin Chua and Jaydee Tungcab
              TNT gets BGR
              NLEX gets Tyrus Hill and Troy Rosario.

              If this gets the approval from the trade committee. Goodluck PBA.

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              • Originally posted by Money View Post
                So Homer Sayson just had leaked a trade rumor via his Spin.ph article.

                BW gets Justin Chua and Jaydee Tungcab
                TNT gets BGR
                NLEX gets Tyrus Hill and Troy Rosario.

                If this gets the approval from the trade committee. Goodluck PBA.
                Troy is the new Larry Rodriguez, i expect him to be reunited with Pogoy at TNT before the end of the season. Chua and Tungcab will be reharvested in a few yrs time


                PBA wont approve the trade unless BW includes future draft picks hehe

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                • Originally posted by IPC View Post
                  Our best teams shouldn't be aiming for just PBA titles anymore. Should be aiming for more, see if they can compete in the region. If their guns are tired, that's why squad rotation exists. In the PBA's current format, though, squad rotation is difficult, considering that you need to get playoff position within 11 games.

                  Personally, I do think MERALCO's a better fit for EASL ball than Mags. Just needs size inside and a shot creator.
                  Originally posted by CoJ View Post
                  to be fair, size and scoring can be filled in by 2 imports. As I've said before, you have a problem if your team's top scorer is Allein Maliksi. (good 3-D guy, but should not be the focal point of offense) .

                  SMC manifesting its insular mentality again with this decision
                  Would be nice if​ the 2 world imports + NP/Asian import were applied in the PBA for the whole season. It would mitigate a lot of teams' weaknesses such as lack of size (at 3, 4, or 5) and lack of legit scoring help.

                  A lot of teams (farm teams, independent teams, and big teams) lack size and ability at 3, 4, and 5, which really diminishes the quality of the competition. Imports would help greatly with that. Would make Villegas, Tautuaa, Rosario, Erram, Almazan types play 4, and Malonzo, Navarro, and Oftana types play 3. Heck, there might be room for guys like Tuffin and Oftana to play 2. It would result in positional upgrades across the board.

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                  • Originally posted by IPC View Post



                    Would be nice if​ the 2 world imports + NP/Asian import were applied in the PBA for the whole season. It would mitigate a lot of teams' weaknesses such as lack of size (at 3, 4, or 5) and lack of legit scoring help.

                    A lot of teams (farm teams, independent teams, and big teams) lack size and ability at 3, 4, and 5, which really diminishes the quality of the competition. Imports would help greatly with that. Would make Villegas, Tautuaa, Rosario, Erram, Almazan types play 4, and Malonzo, Navarro, and Oftana types play 3. Heck, there might be room for guys like Tuffin and Oftana to play 2. It would result in positional upgrades across the board.
                    "but ..but..it will take away slots for deserving Filipino players" - Quinito most probably

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                    • Originally posted by Dotch View Post
                      "but ..but..it will take away slots for deserving Filipino players" - Quinito most probably
                      Quinito did tackle a query I asked on Twitter on his YouTube channel. He replied that imports cost money.

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                      • Originally posted by IPC View Post

                        Quinito did tackle a query I asked on Twitter on his YouTube channel. He replied that imports cost money.
                        That was his take when he was getting kuyog during the EASL tournament when both PBA's top teams, SMB and TNT got a dose of reality check. The narrative he wanted to push was, Bleague teams only play 2-3 Japanese locals at a time, because of the imports they employed and it is hurting the development of the Japanese locals.


                        LOL. We all know the exact opposite is the end result.

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                        • Originally posted by Dotch View Post

                          That was his take when he was getting kuyog during the EASL tournament when both PBA's top teams, SMB and TNT got a dose of reality check. The narrative he wanted to push was, Bleague teams only play 2-3 Japanese locals at a time, because of the imports they employed and it is hurting the development of the Japanese locals.


                          LOL. We all know the exact opposite is the end result.
                          But that is beside the point, Having more QUALITY players make the competition better, and raises the standard for all the teams, which benefits the whole league. But like all things, it requires teams to spend more money.

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                          • RSA says SMC spends P1 billion annually for PBA teams' operation


                            Ramon S. Ang admits that on more than one occasion, he proposed ceasing SMC's basketball operations. But he reconsidered each time.

                            Ramon S. Ang admits that on more than one occasion, he proposed ceasing SMC's basketball operations. But he reconsidered each time because of this


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                            • Originally posted by Dotch View Post
                              RSA says SMC spends P1 billion annually for PBA teams' operation


                              Ramon S. Ang admits that on more than one occasion, he proposed ceasing SMC's basketball operations. But he reconsidered each time.

                              Ramon S. Ang admits that on more than one occasion, he proposed ceasing SMC's basketball operations. But he reconsidered each time because of this



                              Originally posted by Silent Killer View Post
                              Originally posted by Metta View Post
                              Not surprising that it will be a large amount. They are listing it as an expense so the bigger the better, it means paying less in taxes. Whether SMC pays it through taxes or pba, they still have to spend the same. Now comparing to spend it on pba or charity, I think charity offers less in "ambiguity."

                              Owning pba teams also has "fun" benefits, not to mention a few of these athletes/coaches become really famous and even become politicians.
                              Well, if they don't list the PBA team as an expense, they'll pay more in taxes, it won't be a tax deduction. These guys really are businessmen, wanna earn as much as possible.

                              Now question is, how do they make the PBA lucrative?

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                              • Originally posted by IPC View Post






                                Well, if they don't list the PBA team as an expense, they'll pay more in taxes, it won't be a tax deduction. These guys really are businessmen, wanna earn as much as possible.

                                Now question is, how do they make the PBA lucrative?
                                One way is to make owning a team as a stand-alone thing. Just like how the Buss family has only the Lakers as their main business. They have no choice but to produce a high quality/profitable product.

                                Currently, pba owners have no incentive to make teams profitable (which results in a better product), market is not the driving force. It's exactly an oligarchy, with status quo as the goal.

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