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  • Originally posted by Juancho View Post
    If real teams from their respective leagues its probably Bleague with best teams (3 WI + Asian/NP), KBL i think has 2 WI then an asian import now. CBA reduced to 1 import only right? But its Bay area dragons + taiwan team for "China" so no CBA if i'm not mistaken. While PBA is 1/3 all-filipino, 1/3 with 1 import of 6'5 max, 1/3 with 1 import of slightly higher max height lol.
    And therein lies the problem with the PBA. The imports are most often not part of the "real team," in your words. Just 1/3 of the season because of the format.

    To adjust to this league, we should be allowing imports without the height limit for the whole season, regardless of the format. Just include the imports in the Fil-foreigner limit.

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    • Originally posted by KoolAid View Post
      Why don't the PBA just combine the Comms. Cup and the Govs. Cup and have atleast 2-3 imports playing with the locals, so that the team that they will be sending will have better chemistry in the EASL comp.
      Originally posted by ja.he View Post
      Two world imports, one Asian import
      I'm personally a 1 world import, 1 Asian import/naturalized for the PBA. Still, I think there should be imports with no height limit for the whole season.

      Also, I think the All-Filipino should be relegated to an offseason tournament, straight to knockouts. There's still playoffs, it's just that fewer teams are qualified, top 4 or top 8.

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      • Originally posted by IPC View Post
        How good is the PBA as a basketball league? Let's see in the EASL.
        Im actually leaning with the PBA, even vs. CBA teams since they allow the ineligibles and dual citizens to play unlike East Asian counterparts..

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        • Originally posted by ja.he View Post
          no money because their model s*cks because of this reasons:

          - teams are named either after a company name or brand name without a homecourt. why would i support a team based on perfume or sim card? as a result, teams don't have a built-in fanbase except for SMC teams.

          KBL was successful on incorporating the regional and the corporate nature of basketball. for instance, Seoul Samsung Thunder - people from Seoul will support the Samsung team because they know that it is a team based on their city. this is what the PBA should follow.
          This could be a feasible home-and-away model. Which regions would be the first, however?

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          • Originally posted by IPC View Post
            This could be a feasible home-and-away model. Which regions would be the first, however?
            probably NCR, Region III, Region IV, Cebu and Davao, said regions have highly urbanized cities, existing basketball courts good for intl play, with airports and somehow easy to access for from metro manila. Baguio and Legazpi city could also host/serve as home for PBA franchises

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            • Originally posted by CoJ View Post
              probably NCR, Region III, Region IV, Cebu and Davao, said regions have highly urbanized cities, existing basketball courts good for intl play, with airports and somehow easy to access for from metro manila. Baguio and Legazpi city could also host/serve as home for PBA franchises
              Naga's bigger than Legazpi, though I see both cities as homes for PBA teams.

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              • Originally posted by IPC View Post
                This could be a feasible home-and-away model. Which regions would be the first, however?
                Originally posted by CoJ View Post
                probably NCR, Region III, Region IV, Cebu and Davao, said regions have highly urbanized cities, existing basketball courts good for intl play, with airports and somehow easy to access for from metro manila. Baguio and Legazpi city could also host/serve as home for PBA franchises
                transpo between mainland Luzon teams should have no problems. they are connected by NLEX, SLEX, TPLEX, Cavitex and Skyway. I only picked Cebu, Davao and CDO as the teams from VisMin due to logistics.
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                • Originally posted by ja.he View Post
                  transpo between mainland Luzon teams should have no problems. they are connected by NLEX, SLEX, TPLEX, Cavitex and Skyway. I only picked Cebu, Davao and CDO as the teams from VisMin due to logistics.
                  Logistically, i think its better if Bacolod, Dumaguete and Ilolilo, to add with Cebu. But of course, you want to add the other major city in the south which is Davao. Still, teams still need to take the plane or ferry to get around

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                  • Originally posted by ja.he View Post
                    even with two imports, they could not win a game against KBL teams. against CBA and B.League, it's 50/50.
                    Last 2019 edition of EASL SMB had Wells and Prosper they swept the group stages against Ryukyu Golden Kings and Shenzhen Aviators(don't know if these clubs had 2 imports)
                    but unfortunately they lost to Lance Stephenson led Liaoning Flying Leopards which had two imports also in the semis.

                    TNT played in that edition finished the GS with a record of 1-1 failed to qualify for the KO phase, they beat Niigata Albirex Basketball with 1 import in KJ McDaniels, they lost to Liaoning Flying Leopards in the other GS game.

                    Blackwater lost all it's game in 2019 edition.

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                    • Originally posted by Dotch View Post
                      Logistically, i think its better if Bacolod, Dumaguete and Ilolilo, to add with Cebu. But of course, you want to add the other major city in the south which is Davao. Still, teams still need to take the plane or ferry to get around
                      Adding Bacolod, Dumaguete, Cebu, alongside with Davao and CDO is a pain in the @ss if you are organizing a league. that's a nightmare in terms of logisitics. Airfare is too high when it comes to domestic flights.

                      The safest thing to do is to add one from the Visayas and one Mindanao (Davao or CDO).

                      The thing with Luzon is most places are connected by expressways and railways. Pampanga is just two hours away from Metro Manila and around 3 hours away from Batangas. Baguio is just 5 hours away from Batangas and around 4 hours away from Metro Manila. All of these because they are connected by expressways.
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                      • Originally posted by ja.he View Post
                        Adding Bacolod, Dumaguete, Cebu, alongside with Davao and CDO is a pain in the @ss if you are organizing a league. that's a nightmare in terms of logisitics. Air fare is too high when it comes to domestic flights.

                        The safest thing to do is to add one from the Visayas and one Mindanao (Davao or CDO).

                        The thing with Luzon is most places are connected by expressways and railways. Pampanga is just two hours away from Metro Manila and around 3 hours away from Batangas. Baguio is just 5 hours away from Batangas and around 4 hours away from Metro Manila. All of these because they are connected by expressways.
                        I think Davao and CDO is doable. Teams just need to fly to Mindanao once. They can make it two games per city for a total of 4 games say in 7 days.

                        The Visayas leg would be more difficult. Water transpo is not reliable specially during the rainy season. This is where you have high airfare. Not sure if MBA used water transpo for inter Visayas games.

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                        • Originally posted by Rds View Post
                          I think Davao and CDO is doable. Teams just need to fly to Mindanao once. They can make it two games per city for a total of 4 games say in 7 days.

                          The Visayas leg would be more difficult. Water transpo is not reliable specially during the rainy season. This is where you have high airfare. Not sure if MBA used water transpo for inter Visayas games.
                          I think that the inclusion of multiple teams from Visayas was a bad idea from the start. that was island hopping galore and it's expensive. MBA signed their death cert from the start.

                          To my mind, a team can realistically own a bus for their team but you cannot own a plain, unless you are chavit or kuya wil.
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                          • Originally posted by Jupitersa View Post
                            “It hurts because there are also young players who are no longer able to finish their studies because they’re [headed overseas]. These are first-year, second-year students and they’re already being recruited. I’m just worried because, as I’ve told [several young people], basketball is but a stepping stone—that later in life, education is still important. But I heard they’re saying it’s for money? I guess you can’t keep people from going for that,” he added."

                            Al Chua and his crocodile tears.. Boo hoo.

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                            Chua feels that was also similar to the PBA’s 2015-16 season when the league also opened up import slots specifically for Asians.

                            “But again … it didn’t click. Do you know why? Sorry to say, but Filipinos are simply better players,” he said. “[The foreigners] weren’t utilized that much, especially considering the language barrier. So it just didn’t click. Filipinos are also being recruited because they can speak English anywhere.

                            It did not click because the league had a dumb rule of 6'3 height limit. Which make zero sense since we had an abundant of talented guards but less talented wing men and bigs. However, other asian import did standout tho. Michael Madanly, Sam Daglhes, Seiya Ando. Imagine having the likes of tall middle eastern wingmen or bigs on the team, tall korean shooters... but instead they gotta be limited to 6'3.
                            Originally posted by barok espinoza View Post
                            a basketball league with height restrictions. you don't have to say that out loud to hear how dumb that sounds.
                            Originally posted by ja.he View Post
                            st*p*d Chua, try to lift the height limit in his liliputian league and let's see if he will say the same thing.

                            try Haddadi, Geramipoor, Sakakini, Al-Dwairi, Khayat, Zhou Qi and let's see if he will the say the same thing.
                            Yep, don't impose a height limit. Give bigs like Japeth, June Mar, and CStand a challenge. The bigs of their caliber won't lose their spots to imports, as their teams would rather recruit forward imports like Brownlee or McCullough.

                            And Liliputian, well, ayun. Not only do we have 6'4"-6'6" PFs and centers, general rule is, they're not really versatile. Yeah, we once had the likes of Marc Pingris, and now Cliff Hodge, as undersized PFs that could switch onto perimeter players. Probably Arwind Santos, Art dela Cruz and Leonard Santillan, but that's all we have in terms of 4/5's who can switch.

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                            • Originally posted by IPC View Post
                              Yep, don't impose a height limit. Give bigs like Japeth, June Mar, and CStand a challenge. The bigs of their caliber won't lose their spots to imports, as their teams would rather recruit forward imports like Brownlee or McCullough.

                              And Liliputian, well, ayun. Not only do we have 6'4"-6'6" PFs and centers, general rule is, they're not really versatile. Yeah, we once had the likes of Marc Pingris, and now Cliff Hodge, as undersized PFs that could switch onto perimeter players. Probably Arwind Santos, Art dela Cruz and Leonard Santillan, but that's all we have in terms of 4/5's who can switch.
                              Ah yes who would get tired of watching 6'4 to 6'6 imports trying their best to guard Junemar at the post. It's up to the commentators to make it sound exciting and sell it to the masses how dominant Pinoy players are over people 5 inches shorter and 50 pounds lighter than them.

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                              • Originally posted by IPC View Post
                                Yep, don't impose a height limit. Give bigs like Japeth, June Mar, and CStand a challenge. The bigs of their caliber won't lose their spots to imports, as their teams would rather recruit forward imports like Brownlee or McCullough.

                                And Liliputian, well, ayun. Not only do we have 6'4"-6'6" PFs and centers, general rule is, they're not really versatile. Yeah, we once had the likes of Marc Pingris, and now Cliff Hodge, as undersized PFs that could switch onto perimeter players. Probably Arwind Santos, Art dela Cruz and Leonard Santillan, but that's all we have in terms of 6'4"+ 4/5's who can switch.
                                And as far as I can see, defensive versatility or ability to guard the perimeter is not that emphasized in players who are 6'5" and above. In the PBA, it's just Oftana, Dionisio, Manganti, Malonzo, and Gabe, and almost all of them are wings.

                                Guys like Dave Marcelo, Justin Chua, Beau Belga, JR Quiñahan, Vic Manuel, Rodney Brondial, James Sena, Russel Escoto, Raul Soyud, and Mike Miranda, who are traditional 4/5s who struggle to switch to the perimeter, are more common among 6'5"-6'6" players. This trend has to be reversed.

                                In order to make defensive versatility and positionless basketball a thing, a team must stack up on multiple 6'4"-6'7" players, preferably wings, who could switch and defend the perimeter, and show that they are key components to a team winning. Right now, not yet.

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