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  • Originally posted by CoJ View Post
    come to think of it, JJ Helterbrand didnt have a proper retirement/send off ceremony as well, they need to give them a proper ceremony, the fast and the furious carried the PBA in the 2000s
    I also wish SMB is going to retire Danny Ildefonso and Danny Seigle's jersey numbers

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    • Originally posted by PaulLee3 View Post
      I also wish SMB is going to retire Danny Ildefonso and Danny Seigle's jersey numbers
      wow you're right, Danny I and Seigle's respective jerseys are not retired, out of that 90s-2000s team only Racela's no. was retired

      source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...jersey_numbers

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      • Originally posted by PaulLee3 View Post
        I also wish SMB is going to retire Danny Ildefonso and Danny Seigle's jersey numbers
        It depends on Al chua.
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        • Originally posted by mapuakid View Post
          It depends on Al chua.
          wait, is there a rift between long hair, Danny I and Dynamite Danny?

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          • Originally posted by CoJ View Post
            wait, is there a rift between long hair, Danny I and Dynamite Danny?
            Afaik, danny’s comment regarding the club’s direction was prolly one of the reason why he didn’t get an offer with the smc(petron). There’s no rift bet danny’s and al. I just said it’s depend on Him to retire the jersey of the 2 Danny’s since he’s the most influential boss in the smc camp.

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            • Originally posted by mapuakid View Post
              Afaik, danny’s comment regarding the club’s direction was prolly one of the reason why he didn’t get an offer with the smc(petron). There’s no rift bet danny’s and al. I just said it’s depend on Him to retire the jersey of the 2 Danny’s since he’s the most influential boss in the smc camp.

              https://www.spin.ph/basketball/pba/s...hs-with-petron
              I think Ramon A ng took DIs comments against the team personally. This is the first time I heard about this fight with the team staff.

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              • I think most of the SMC superstars that preceded Alfrancis are being set aside. Their legacies are not being handled correctly and are whitewashed.

                James Yap
                Kerby Raymundo
                Olsen Racela
                Danny I
                Danny S
                Erik Menk
                Jayjay Helterbrand
                Dondon Hontiveros


                heck, maybe even Marc Pingris



                Only Mark Caguioa is being honored only because he stayed long in Ginebra.

                We see the organization celebrating more the likes of Arwind, Scottie, Cabagnot, JDV and may reward them more when they eventually retire, than the ones mentioned above.

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                • Originally posted by Dotch View Post
                  I think most of the SMC superstars that preceded Alfrancis are being set aside. Their legacies are not being handled correctly and are whitewashed.

                  James Yap
                  Kerby Raymundo
                  Olsen Racela
                  Danny I
                  Danny S
                  Erik Menk
                  Jayjay Helterbrand
                  Dondon Hontiveros


                  heck, maybe even Marc Pingris



                  Only Mark Caguioa is being honored only because he stayed long in Ginebra.

                  We see the organization celebrating more the likes of Arwind, Scottie, Cabagnot, JDV and may reward them more when they eventually retire, than the ones mentioned above.
                  luckily Marc Pingris is related to the outgoing Senate President (who is close to Ramon Ang and the late Danding) and was given a proper retirement ceremony (and was even congratulated by PRRD and Bong Go) but yeah the 2000s generation of SMC players are not given the proper respect. None of the names you mentioned are even part of the SMC umbrella either as a member of the coaching staff or management.

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                  • Originally posted by robert0326
                    Hontiveros and Menk's jersey retirement was with Alaska before... for sure ROS will give Yap's jersey retirement as well in the future...
                    Why is SMC not honoring D2H and Menk's legacies with SMB and GSM respectively?

                    James Yap was the face of the PF franchise ( and the PBA, together with Mark C) after Alvin Patrimonio retired. There shouldn't be any second-guessing in the SMC camp when he officially retires.

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                    • Veterans Abu Tratter and Maverick Ahanmisi will not be able to see action in the Philippine Basketball Association. Well, not unless they change their agencies. According to multiple sources closely monitoring the situation, both players are being represented by an agency not licensed by the league which is stopping their negotiations with their mother team […]


                      Look at the PBA finally caring about taxes hahaha. That being said it is fair to call an agent that doesn't pay VAT unlicensed.

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                      • Originally posted by Sikatrix View Post
                        https://tiebreakertimes.com.ph/tbt/h...onverge/241595

                        Look at the PBA finally caring about taxes hahaha. That being said it is fair to call an agent that doesn't pay VAT unlicensed.
                        hhahaha, brings back memories of corporations using the PBA as a tax shield/ business expense

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                        • Here's a piece on why the PBA's not as appealing to top prospects: https://www.espn.ph/basketball/pba/s...ding-alarm-yet

                          It says that the PBA's still an appealing destination, though.

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                          • Originally posted by IPC View Post
                            Here's a piece on why the PBA's not as appealing to top prospects: https://www.espn.ph/basketball/pba/s...ding-alarm-yet

                            It says that the PBA's still an appealing destination, though.
                            Two discussion threads on the PBA's marketing:



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                            • Originally posted by IPC View Post
                              Here's a piece on why the PBA's not as appealing to top prospects: https://www.espn.ph/basketball/pba/s...ding-alarm-yet

                              It says that the PBA's still an appealing destination, though.
                              This statement says a lot and it makes me sad. Is this a reflection of us being a third-world country or just bad management of PBA?

                              "Iba 'yung teams sa Japan and the way they treat their players. Professional talaga. Kumpleto sa gamit, sa training staff, everything. 'Yun 'yung kulang sa ibang teams dito. May mga players complaining na professional team na sila pero parang hindi naman professional ang treatment ng ibang mga teams na hindi malaki ang budget."
                              Samahan ng mga Bopol ng Pilipinas

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                              • Originally posted by bluenote49 View Post
                                This statement says a lot and it makes me sad. Is this a reflection of us being a third-world country or just bad management of PBA?

                                "Iba 'yung teams sa Japan and the way they treat their players. Professional talaga. Kumpleto sa gamit, sa training staff, everything. 'Yun 'yung kulang sa ibang teams dito. May mga players complaining na professional team na sila pero parang hindi naman professional ang treatment ng ibang mga teams na hindi malaki ang budget."
                                More quotes after that:

                                "When Thirdy [Ravena] and Dwight played for Gilas Pilipinas, mas angat na 'yung laro nila," recalled player agent Charlie Dy, chief executive officer of sports and talent firm Virtual Playground. "Iba 'yung may international exposure. We have a lot of very good players, ang kulang lang talaga is international exposure. And I think you'll feel more confident after playing as an import in Japan, kasi iba rin 'yung treatment sa'yo eh."

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