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  • Originally posted by ja.he View Post
    It's should be co-terminus with the max contract period in the PBA. As far as I know, that is three years.
    And the PBA has to adopt the rule that restricted free agency kicks in only once there is a qualifying offer. If there's no qyalifying offer within a certain period of time, it should be automatic unrestricted free agency.

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    • Originally posted by IPC View Post
      Roosevelt Adams is also a free agent: https://tiebreakertimes.com.ph/tbt/b...cy/229896?s=09

      SMB could be a possibility, and he could fill a hole in the wing. TNT, pwede rin. He provides shooting, an asset valuable to TNT, and he's a tall wing. The playoff teams could really use this guy.

      Well, TerraFirma has lost two wings now. Ayan, farm team kasi. Players won't want to play for them if the pay is low, and they're losing consistently.
      Originally posted by IPC View Post
      Adams had an opt-out clause in his contract, though, that's why he could become a UFA.

      General rule for UFA is still playing for an aggregate period of 7 years to become one. Otherwise, you'd have to have an early opt out option, or get cut from the team.
      TerraFirma still retains Adams' rights: https://twitter.com/gerardmos/status...PiPebPMbg&s=19

      Looks like opting out does not necessarily make the UFA period kick in. They're really applying the 7-year rule.

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      • Originally posted by ja.he View Post
        Because the very system of PBA is flawed. Almost games happen in Metro Manila or in Yñares. Teamnames are products of a company. PBA should encourage less popular teams like Phoenix, ROS, Alaska, NLEX and Meralco to adopt a province for purpose of creating their respective fanbases. Kasi naman, who really wants to support a team of powder-filled milk, a house paint, or gas station? Things will be different if they put names of provinces in their team.

        Pampanga NLEX Road Warriors
        Caloocan Meralco Bolts
        Laguna Alaska Aces
        Bulacan Rain or Shine Elasto Painters
        Batangas Phoenix Fuel Masters

        No need for more popular teams like Ginebra, SMB, Magnolia and TNT to adapt a province since they have already big fanbases.

        Per venue:

        NLEX - Bren Z. Guiao Sports Complex and Convention Center - 3,000 seats
        Meralco - Caloocan Sports Complex - 3,000 seaters
        Alaska - Alonte Sports Arena - 6,500 seaters
        ROS - Baliuag Star Arena - 5,000 seaters
        Phoenix - Batangas City Coliseum - 5,000 seaters

        Even if you reach you don"t reach 10k in gate attendance, if you get these smaller arenas jampacked every game, you can generate good revenue. For me, hybrid regionalization will do.
        According to this article, Kume Marcial said the PBA had plans of regionalization, but they'll experiment with the D-League first: https://www.dugout.ph/2022/01/plan-t...ional.html?m=1

        Kume said that once the regionalization plan works in the D-League, then they will they do it with the PBA itself.

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        • Originally posted by IPC View Post
          Good news that the PBA is saying that they will adjust the calendar for the EASL. The second step would be to allow imports to play in the PBA for the entire season without a height limit and relegate the All-Filipino to the offseason. Another would be to classify naturalized Filipinos as locals under the Fil-foreigner limit. This should help our teams compete there, as a start.

          This EASL tournament would provide a second playoffs for PBA teams and the PBA would get a cut. It's gonna be like a 3-conference format, but more suitable for international competition (either between clubs or national teams).
          So here it is: https://www.pba.ph/news/pba-kicks-of...gn-on-the-road

          The PBA say that they will give the participating teams leeway. The participating teams won't have games for one week.

          Plus, I think the EASL will have to be coterminous with the import conference, and that import conference must not have a height limit. Our teams will have it easier there as an effect, especially the participating teams. Better sana if it's a single-season format, with imports for the whole year. The EASL is held from October to March, which is pretty much almost a whole season's length, so the import tournament has to be held this whole time.

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          • Originally posted by IPC View Post
            According to this article, Kume Marcial said the PBA had plans of regionalization, but they'll experiment with the D-League first: https://www.dugout.ph/2022/01/plan-t...ional.html?m=1

            Kume said that once the regionalization plan works in the D-League, then they will they do it with the PBA itself.
            Actually, they have this wrong notion in setting-up regional leagues. Why go full-blast Luzon, Visayas and Mindanao when logistics are too costly? Why not try it first in Metro Manila, CALABARZON, Central Luzon and Baguio City? These areas are all connected by expressways so logistics should not be a challenge.

            Tsaka na nila isipin ang Visayas at Mindanao if they already figure it out how to make it possible with less cost.

            Also, they should try it first to less popular teams.
            Last edited by ja.he; 01-20-2022, 11:02 AM.
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            • Would it be easier for SMB or MVP teams to get players from farm teams? For example, they will just ask Terrafirma to not much their offer to RFA Adams and they get him without trading anymore. For Terrafirma they continue to get support from those trade partner teams.

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              • Originally posted by zairex View Post
                Would it be easier for SMB or MVP teams to get players from farm teams? For example, they will just ask Terrafirma to not much their offer to RFA Adams and they get him without trading anymore. For Terrafirma they continue to get support from those trade partner teams.
                Probably. That might be possible behind the scenes. Ask the farm team to not exercise their right of first refusal.

                In TerraFirma's case with Adams, Cardel's already acting like Adams ain't coming back. He's as good as gone.

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                • Originally posted by ja.he View Post
                  Actually, they have this wrong notion in setting-up regional leagues. Why go full-blast Luzon, Visayas and Mindanao when logistics are too costly? Why not try it first in Metro Manila, CALABARZON, Central Luzon and Baguio City? These areas are all connected by expressways so logistics should not be a challenge.

                  Tsaka na nila isipin ang Visayas at Mindanao if they already figure it out how to make it possible with less cost.

                  Also, they should try it first to less popular teams.
                  They'll have to work hard on getting those teams a fanbase, though. The team as well.

                  Establish the fanbase. I guess, start with the provinces. It has to be done gradually. Only 2 or 3 teams at the time.

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                  • Originally posted by IPC View Post
                    They'll have to work hard on getting those teams a fanbase, though. The team as well.

                    Establish the fanbase. I guess, start with the provinces. It has to be done gradually. Only 2 or 3 teams at the time.
                    ROS, Phoenix and Alaska are my model teams here.
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                    • Oh.

                      I remember people (including me) want an expansion when it was a 10 team league.

                      Wish Granted. But not that way our wish wanted to be. Not Farm teams. Huhu.

                      Add expansion teams. But make sure they are a rival rich companies too.

                      If only Ayala, Gokongwei, SM, Jollibee, Aboitiz, and Razons have interest in pba.

                      But they are already earning great with their businesses.

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                      • Originally posted by mathematicianrcg View Post
                        Oh.

                        I remember people (including me) want an expansion when it was a 10 team league.

                        Wish Granted. But not that way our wish wanted to be. Not Farm teams. Huhu.

                        Add expansion teams. But make sure they are a rival rich companies too.

                        If only Ayala, Gokongwei, SM, Jollibee, Aboitiz, and Razons have interest in pba.

                        But they are already earning great with their businesses.
                        if only they will allow foreigners/foreign entities to own pba franchises that will sure balance the level field, and might even open the PBA to regionalization/internationalization, too bad the board is too conservative and blinded by false nationalism, plus a lot of legal/constitutional hurdles to deal with

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                        • Originally posted by mathematicianrcg View Post
                          Oh.

                          I remember people (including me) want an expansion when it was a 10 team league.

                          Wish Granted. But not that way our wish wanted to be. Not Farm teams. Huhu.

                          Add expansion teams. But make sure they are a rival rich companies too.

                          If only Ayala, Gokongwei, SM, Jollibee, Aboitiz, and Razons have interest in pba.

                          But they are already earning great with their businesses.
                          I personally wouldn't want an expansion as of the moment. Not until we have too much talent and size at the 3 and 4 positions. Frankly, the way I see it, the only overloaded positions are the guards. I'd like to see the teams load up on good-sized and talented wings and fours, whether small-ball fours or traditional fours. I think this upcoming draft has the potential to help with that.

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                          • Originally posted by mathematicianrcg View Post
                            Oh.

                            I remember people (including me) want an expansion when it was a 10 team league.

                            Wish Granted. But not that way our wish wanted to be. Not Farm teams. Huhu.

                            Add expansion teams. But make sure they are a rival rich companies too.

                            If only Ayala, Gokongwei, SM, Jollibee, Aboitiz, and Razons have interest in pba.

                            But they are already earning great with their businesses.
                            What the PBA need right now is a disruptor, much like what Uber did to the taxi industry, or what Netflix did to the traditional cable and tv channels.

                            Chooks to Go might be that disruptor. The owner has the financial clout, basketball savvy and balls to stand up with the the MVPs and RSAs of the PBA.

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                            • Originally posted by ja.he View Post
                              ROS, Phoenix and Alaska are my model teams here.
                              I think they could have a presence in the Region III and CALABARZON areas. Those are good teams to start with. Plus, Alaska and RoS have established themselves as solid teams. They could get plenty of fans in these areas.

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                              • Originally posted by IPC View Post
                                Good news that the PBA is saying that they will adjust the calendar for the EASL. The second step would be to allow imports to play in the PBA for the entire season without a height limit and relegate the All-Filipino to the offseason. Another would be to classify naturalized Filipinos as locals under the Fil-foreigner limit. This should help our teams compete there, as a start.

                                This EASL tournament would provide a second playoffs for PBA teams and the PBA would get a cut. It's gonna be like a 3-conference format, but more suitable for international competition (either between clubs or national teams).
                                Originally posted by zairex View Post
                                As I always say, there is this dream situation and reality. The reality is funding the teams and PBA. 200 million a year is spent per team. Are they going to get any revenue in return and how much? How many people will go to a venue to watch PBA for regular games? Play-offs there is a guarantee and also Ginebra. But the rest of the league can't guarantee of 10K paying audience every regular games.
                                Originally posted by IPC View Post
                                The EASL will provide another playoff tournament for the fans to watch, even if it's not a Ginebra game. I think the fans would want to watch one of our own take on international teams. And I assume the EASL might share TV and ad revenue among the qualified teams, which will help with the cash flow.

                                As for getting more fans to watch non-Ginebra PBA games live, the question is how do we make the PBA more attractive to fans? Gilas participation and commitment, better marketing for the other teams?
                                Originally posted by zairex View Post
                                I am talking about PBA only. Season-long, one conference is an issue. Better marketing is good. But what marketing, can you suggest a guarantee marketing strategy to bring fans back for what 60games x 12teams regular season.
                                As for the calendar, maybe a two-tournament format is possible. 22 elimination games, and for each tournament, you have 1-3 quarterfinals games, 4-7 semifinals games, and 4-7 finals games for a total of 9-16 playoff games. In total, that's 20-27 games per team for each tournament, and 40-54 games in total. For the PBA, that's a total of 132 elimination games, 12-20 quarterfinals games, 16-28 semifinals games, and 8-14 finals games for a total of 168-194 games. I'm sure that span of games can be scheduled from September to June, which will make room for both FIBA and the EASL.

                                However, even with this tournament format, imports should be allowed for the whole season, and with an unlimited height limit for both tournaments, and teams have the option to retain or change the import between tournaments. The EASL runs for five months, roughly one and a half conferences, so both tournaments have to have imports.

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