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  • Originally posted by mathematicianrcg View Post
    LOL.

    SNOW BADUA looks like not in favor of UFA

    Fearing Mikey Williams will go to SMC after 7 yrs. And give even more imbalance

    https://fb.watch/auHXR1pLuF/
    I mean he’s not lying though, the fact that Ginebra was able to steal Nard Pinto from Meralco(knowing their part of that rich teams) give you an idea that anything can happen especially knowing that theres no REAL salary cap. Partida yan ha, they just signed Japeth, Pringle and Standhardinger

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    • Originally posted by Rodbi View Post
      I posted a similar concept more than a year ago. I called it PBA youth draft, eligible for 17-19 y.o.'s. Drafted youth players would be sent to PBA teams' respective affiliated universities/colleges for development (it's up to PBA and its teams and the universities/colleges to come up with an arrangement beneficial for both parties). I'd like to add this time, that the arrangement between the youth draftee and his mother club would be 5 years at max. Should the player exhibit advanced quality of play deserving of a call-up to the pros at age 21, his mother club may pick him up without any resistance from the affiliate school. Once a player is called up, he can no longer shuttle back and forth to the PBA and collegiate leagues, but must be offered a fresh 5-year pro contract, ensuring the PBA team's rights over the player in such span of time.

      In contrast to the youth contract, players entered to a pro contract can be loaned out and can shuttle back and forth to the PBA and to the teams' partner minor league teams - much like how MLB deals with their draft picks. An initial call-up will trigger a player's PBA service time set up to 5 years. Players can also be traded to other PBA teams in this setup. Once the service time is up, the player becomes a free agent, with his mother club having the right over the other PBA teams to negotiate with him for a contract extension.
      I think the player can also be pro-ready before 21, and the team can sign 18-20 year old players. However, if there's no playing time, maybe there could be an arrangement for the kid to play first in MPBL, Filbasket, or maybe even Gilas training camp if called up. Heck, if player loans are a thing, maybe the player can be loaned to a PBA team willing to give him playing time.

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      • lol

        Blackwater made an attempt to acquire Wright, Tautuaa

        By Rey Joble

        Owners of three first round picks and two second round selections in the coming PBA Rookie Draft, Blackwater made a bold move in trying to acquire dead shot Matthew Wright and big man Mo Tautuaa.

        But Phoenix Super LPG and San Miguel Beer, two solid contenders in the ongoing Governors' Cup, are in no mood to make changes as they try to turn things around in the import-laced tournament.

        "We tried to do the right protocols by asking for a trade. We don't want to be accused of tampering," said Blackwater coach Ariel Vanguardia in jest.

        Turning serious, Vanguardia and the Bossing are determined to change their fortunes as they are staring at a 24-game losing skid. They have not won a game since October 17, 2020 or a period of 455 days and counting.

        Just recently, the Bossing tried to shake things up by acquiring Justin Melton, a member of the 2014 grand slam team San Mig Coffee and elevated John Ambulodto, a hard working big man, to the regular roster from being a practice player.

        Blackwater also welcomed new import Shawn Derrick Glover, a solid scorer from the Icelandic League, as replacement of previous reinforcement Jaylen Bond.

        Prior to the start of the conference, Blackwater also made significant changes in the team, bringing in veteran guards JVee Casio and Rashawn McCarthy, two players who have championship experience, as well as young big man Barkley Eboña.

        The Bossing also added Jay Washington, who was part of the deal that sent Carl Bryan Cruz to TNT.

        Blackwater tried to engage in a trade with Phoenix and San Miguel Beer, two teams which don't have a first round pick this year.

        The Fuel Masters had already dealt their first round pick this year for the services of Vic Manuel, the star forward, who played for the team for only one conference.

        Manuel was later on shipped to NorthPort for hardworking forward Sean Anthony, but the Batang Pier then traded 'The Muscleman' to the Beermen for Arwind Santos.

        San Miguel, on the other hand, had already unloaded its first round pick in the 46th season and also next year's draft, as part of the deal involving two-time scoring champion CJ Perez, which the team acquired prior to the start of the season.

        In this year's draft, San Miguel's first round pick now belongs to Blackwater, which also secured the first round choice of TNT as part of the Poy Erram trade.

        The Bossing's own first round pick is also expected to be a quality one as they are expected to pick high in the draft being the first team to get eliminated last conference.

        Sensing there's a need for these teams to retool their respective line ups via the rookie draft, Blackwater initiated a move to trade for Wright and Tautuaa, but both teams called it off.

        Both Wright and Tautuaa played under Vanguardia on separate teams.

        Wright and Tautuaa played when Vanguardia was with Westport Malaysia Dragons in the Asean Basketball League.

        When Vanguardia coached Phoenix a few years ago, Wright became his team's star player.

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        • Originally posted by mathematicianrcg View Post
          In Nba Logic now.

          Nba Superstars Tends to give u at least 4-6 seasons to surround them with the right and enough talent.

          If not, bye, it is time to enter FA market.

          I am not sure how PBA will implement this UFA
          Nba vs PBA is different as the salary of 1 team is much different vs the salary of the other.

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          • Originally posted by IPC View Post
            This is a real danger of UFA. You risk losing the players you develop for nothing.

            However, Mikey will be 37 by the time he's a UFA. Who's gonna take an older player?
            SMC very likely.
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            • Originally posted by CoJ View Post
              lol

              Blackwater made an attempt to acquire Wright, Tautuaa

              By Rey Joble

              Owners of three first round picks and two second round selections in the coming PBA Rookie Draft, Blackwater made a bold move in trying to acquire dead shot Matthew Wright and big man Mo Tautuaa.

              But Phoenix Super LPG and San Miguel Beer, two solid contenders in the ongoing Governors' Cup, are in no mood to make changes as they try to turn things around in the import-laced tournament.

              "We tried to do the right protocols by asking for a trade. We don't want to be accused of tampering," said Blackwater coach Ariel Vanguardia in jest.

              Turning serious, Vanguardia and the Bossing are determined to change their fortunes as they are staring at a 24-game losing skid. They have not won a game since October 17, 2020 or a period of 455 days and counting.

              Just recently, the Bossing tried to shake things up by acquiring Justin Melton, a member of the 2014 grand slam team San Mig Coffee and elevated John Ambulodto, a hard working big man, to the regular roster from being a practice player.

              Blackwater also welcomed new import Shawn Derrick Glover, a solid scorer from the Icelandic League, as replacement of previous reinforcement Jaylen Bond.

              Prior to the start of the conference, Blackwater also made significant changes in the team, bringing in veteran guards JVee Casio and Rashawn McCarthy, two players who have championship experience, as well as young big man Barkley Eboña.

              The Bossing also added Jay Washington, who was part of the deal that sent Carl Bryan Cruz to TNT.

              Blackwater tried to engage in a trade with Phoenix and San Miguel Beer, two teams which don't have a first round pick this year.

              The Fuel Masters had already dealt their first round pick this year for the services of Vic Manuel, the star forward, who played for the team for only one conference.

              Manuel was later on shipped to NorthPort for hardworking forward Sean Anthony, but the Batang Pier then traded 'The Muscleman' to the Beermen for Arwind Santos.

              San Miguel, on the other hand, had already unloaded its first round pick in the 46th season and also next year's draft, as part of the deal involving two-time scoring champion CJ Perez, which the team acquired prior to the start of the season.

              In this year's draft, San Miguel's first round pick now belongs to Blackwater, which also secured the first round choice of TNT as part of the Poy Erram trade.

              The Bossing's own first round pick is also expected to be a quality one as they are expected to pick high in the draft being the first team to get eliminated last conference.

              Sensing there's a need for these teams to retool their respective line ups via the rookie draft, Blackwater initiated a move to trade for Wright and Tautuaa, but both teams called it off.

              Both Wright and Tautuaa played under Vanguardia on separate teams.

              Wright and Tautuaa played when Vanguardia was with Westport Malaysia Dragons in the Asean Basketball League.

              When Vanguardia coached Phoenix a few years ago, Wright became his team's star player.
              Well, neither makes much sense, as both Wright and Mo are key pieces for their teams. However, with Vic Manuel in tow, I think Mo can be available for trade, especially with the latter's injury. But do Blackwater have the assets to get him?

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              • Lol.

                I hope it is not just blackwater's "Pakita/Palabas" in order for people to say "Oh blackwater is not a farm team now, yhey making moves". Lmao

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                • Originally posted by IPC View Post
                  Well, neither makes much sense, as both Wright and Mo are key pieces for their teams. However, with Vic Manuel in tow, I think Mo can be available for trade, especially with the latter's injury. But do Blackwater have the assets to get him?
                  A first-round pick in the next draft is a great asset. Of course the issue does they want to compete for real or this is more moro. Tantuaa if I remember, was the one they give up for Larry Rodriguez and now they want him again. Full circle.

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                  • Originally posted by zairex View Post
                    A first-round pick in the next draft is a great asset. Of course the issue does they want to compete for real or this is more moro. Tantuaa if I remember, was the one they give up for Larry Rodriguez and now they want him again. Full circle.
                    That was Troy. They gave him up for Rodriguez and the pick that became Art dela Cruz.

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                    • Originally posted by BJ_Reloaded View Post
                      Sadly I haven't watch PBA games even during it's first few weeks of the Gov. Cup..the league is dying very slowly and that's a painful reality of our beloved league.
                      Originally posted by ja.he View Post
                      Because they are not listening to their fans:

                      - they don't want a single tournament season.
                      - they insist all-filipino cup.
                      - they are not allowing asian imports.
                      - they are keeping height limit for imports.
                      - they are not allowing douthit, blatche, and kouame to play as locals.
                      - they are still keeping the ban on draft dodgers.
                      - they can't stop lopsided trades.
                      - they are reluctant to fix their calendar to accommodate Gilas.

                      They are listening to the fans. All the fans want to request, PBA will do the opposite. After all of those bullsh*ts, they still have the guts to say that "nanonood pa rin naman kayo ng PBA". Is this how to treat fans?
                      There will always be inequality. You can't really take the stupid out of some teams when they make a move. Either stupid, or in dire financial straits. I think it's probably best if a transfer/loan system were implemented instead of drafts and trades.

                      But, what they can do is probably overhaul the calendar into a single-season format, allow imports of unlimited height for the full season, allow the NPs under the Fil-foreign limit, change the Fil-foreign limit to FIBA-ineligible (and this limit includes imports, NPs, and FIBA-ineligible blood Filipinos), and fix the calendar to accommodate Gilas.

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                      • Really hope Pba becomes better.

                        Pba will always be our best pro local league. And a collection of our best local players. ( Barring Overseas based talents like Kai, AJ, etc)

                        The Baltazars, Paras, Tamayos, Etc would probably be part of pba gilas special drafree. Technically, they will still be pba players.

                        And pretty sure Coach tab will also recruit some pba players when they are available.

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                        • Originally posted by mathematicianrcg View Post
                          Really hope Pba becomes better.

                          Pba will always be our best pro local league. And a collection of our best local players. ( Barring Overseas based talents like Kai, AJ, etc)

                          The Baltazars, Paras, Tamayos, Etc would probably be part of pba gilas special drafree. Technically, they will still be pba players.

                          And pretty sure Coach tab will also recruit some pba players when they are available.
                          Unless youre kai sotto or aguy like matthew aquino who didnt get a break in Philippines you should play outside b league in any division..
                          To becomes Asia's Best, we need to compete against the World's Best..
                          1 Big 4 small > 5 out offense.

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                          • Originally posted by hmbopbaduwap View Post
                            https://www.facebook.com/17579596944...1309996126723/

                            PBA makes room to include EASL in 2022 calendar

                            By Rey Joble

                            It’s green and go for PBA’s participation in the East Asia Super League.

                            PBA commissioner Willie Marcial confirmed it on Tuesday during his guesting in the weekly PSA Forum.

                            "Nag-usap kami ni Mr. Matt Beyer (EASL CEO). Nagbigay na sila ng schedule. Home and away. October 12, away, then October 19, home. Ang alam ko ang kalaban natin either Japan or Korea. Tapos may November ulit,” said Marcial.

                            According to Marcial, he had already instructed deputy commissioner Eric Castro to work on the schedule and block off the participation of the teams which will represent the PBA in the fastest growing regional basketball league in Asia.

                            "Sinabi ko na rin sa board yan and OK naman kami. Kinausap ko na rin si deputy commissioner Eric Castro na i-adjust yung schedule. Kung tatama doon at kung sinong mga teams ang pupunta, ia-adjust natin yung schedule para doon sa mga teams na pupunta. Hindi na muna natin palalaruin ng isang Linggo. Yun yung mga pinag-usapan namin. It's green and go and EASL. Excited na rin kami na maglaro sa East Asia,” added Marcial.

                            Beyer and his fellow executive Henry Kirins, shared the benefits of partnering with the PBA and making Asia’s pioneering professional basketball league a big part in the EASL’s expansion.

                            "I think the economics is one part. Then, the level of competition is another part. We have a minimum revenue guaranteed to the PBA and that's on an annual basis, which is what we're going to give to any league,” said Beyer.

                            Outside of the revenue the PBA is set to receive just like the other leagues invited to field in their teams, the EASL is also offering a mouthwatering prize money to the winners.

                            “Then, we're also offering the first place team of those eight teams, the champion of the East Asia Super League, S1-million for the champion. The second place is $500,000 and third place is $250,000. For each game, there's going to be six games, three home and three away in the group stage, there's an appearance fee guaranteed to all teams. Road and travels are paid for,” added Beyer.

                            In handling the home and away competitions, the EASL is taking off the pressure from the PBA in terms of handling the TV production and coverage once the event takes place in the Philippines.

                            “We're also handling the broadcast production and even told the PBA we're going to handle the operations in the Philippines if it's not too much of a burden for the PBA to host the home games. We're taking all the risks completely off the table from any of the partners that we're working with. What we want to do and this is why like having a strong partnership with the leagues and the qualification system that we have is fair and transparent is so important to make sure that we build a wide base of fans in the countries. That's why it's an open system based on qualifications,” added Beyer.

                            Kirins, the chief finance officer of the EASL, sees the partnership with the PBA as a win-win situation as well as the other leagues involved.

                            "From my perspective with the other basketball leagues, it's the same thing how the PBA looks at this. It's a win-win for all the teams and all the leagues involved. Whether you look at the economics or you look at the exposure for the sponsors or you look at the Gilas national team, having a deeper international experience, meeting all types of players. I think that's something that is being taken into consideration. From my view, there's no downside here,” said Kirins.
                            Good news that the PBA is saying that they will adjust the calendar for the EASL. The second step would be to allow imports to play in the PBA for the entire season without a height limit and relegate the All-Filipino to the offseason. Another would be to classify naturalized Filipinos as locals under the Fil-foreigner limit. This should help our teams compete there, as a start.

                            This EASL tournament would provide a second playoffs for PBA teams and the PBA would get a cut. It's gonna be like a 3-conference format, but more suitable for international competition (either between clubs or national teams).

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                            • Originally posted by IPC View Post
                              Good news that the PBA is saying that they will adjust the calendar for the EASL. The second step would be to allow imports to play in the PBA for the entire season without a height limit and relegate the All-Filipino to the offseason. Another would be to classify naturalized Filipinos as locals under the Fil-foreigner limit. This should help our teams compete there, as a start.

                              This EASL tournament would provide a second playoff for PBA teams and the PBA would get a cut. It's gonna be like a 3-conference format, but more suitable for international competition (either between clubs or national teams).
                              As I always say, there is this dream situation and reality. The reality is funding the teams and PBA. 200 million a year is spent per team. Are they going to get any revenue in return and how much? How many people will go to a venue to watch PBA for regular games? Play-offs there is a guarantee and also Ginebra. But the rest of the league can't guarantee of 10K paying audience every regular games.

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                              • Originally posted by zairex View Post
                                As I always say, there is this dream situation and reality. The reality is funding the teams and PBA. 200 million a year is spent per team. Are they going to get any revenue in return and how much? How many people will go to a venue to watch PBA for regular games? Play-offs there is a guarantee and also Ginebra. But the rest of the league can't guarantee of 10K paying audience every regular games.
                                The EASL will provide another playoff tournament for the fans to watch, even if it's not a Ginebra game. I think the fans would want to watch one of our own take on international teams. And I assume the EASL might share TV and ad revenue among the qualified teams, which will help with the cash flow.

                                As for getting more fans to watch non-Ginebra PBA games live, the question is how do we make the PBA more attractive to fans? Gilas participation and commitment, better marketing for the other teams?

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